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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 9:55:04 AM
#101:


Tenlaar posted...
No they didnt, they erroneously posted numbers that were not numbers from the drawing. Winning = having the numbers that come up in the drawing, nothing else.
I have to agree with this. It wouldn't be fair for him to be given the winnings just because those were the numbers some IT worker posted on the website. The winning numbers have to come from the drawing, that's how the lottery works. I certainly sympathize with him because it must be crushing to think your life has just changed and then it doesn't, but he isn't entitled to that money and he can't claim $340 million in damages from money that was never his.

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CSCA33
02/22/24 9:56:01 AM
#102:


Revelation34 posted...
He never signed a contract.
What do you think the lotto tickets are for?

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Raikuro
02/22/24 10:05:11 AM
#103:


Again, regardless of this dude, should the lotto be allowed to just pull a massive oopsie as publishing completely wrong numbers for multiple days, potentially causing actual winners to be deterred from claiming their money? With zero consequences? We're not talking about just a typo that gets fixed in an hour.
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littlebro07
02/22/24 10:18:08 AM
#104:


Raikuro posted...
Again, regardless of this dude, should the lotto be allowed to just pull a massive oopsie as publishing completely wrong numbers for multiple days, potentially causing actual winners to be deterred from claiming their money? With zero consequences? We're not talking about just a typo that gets fixed in an hour.

Right, like I'm sure people have found out they're winning absolute "fuck you" money like this and then they go nuts by doing crazy shit like telling their boss to eat a bag of dicks while pissing on the copier

Then they go to claim their winnings and get told "we made an oopsie, lol sorry"

Life's practically ruined at that point. Obviously never do anything without actually having the money yet but finding out you're rich beyond your wildest dreams is very likely to make you not think clearly.

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Revelation34
02/22/24 10:18:51 AM
#105:


CSCA33 posted...

What do you think the lotto tickets are for?


He bought a ticket. He didn't sign an actual contract.

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Rika_Furude
02/22/24 10:24:42 AM
#106:


Tenlaar posted...
No they didnt, they erroneously posted numbers that were not numbers from the drawing. Winning = having the numbers that come up in the drawing, nothing else.
They announced a winner and the winner they announced was him
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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 10:30:38 AM
#107:


Rika_Furude posted...
They announced a winner and the winner they announced was him
No they didn't. They posted numbers on the website that were not the correct numbers, and when he went to make a claim he was told they were not the correct numbers. He was not announced as anything.

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Rika_Furude
02/22/24 10:34:19 AM
#108:


DipDipDiver posted...
No they didn't. They posted numbers on the website that were not the correct numbers, and when he went to make a claim he was told they were not the correct numbers. He was not announced as anything.
The numbers he bought were announced as the winning numbers. Posting a mistake is still announcing a winner
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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 10:36:05 AM
#109:


Rika_Furude posted...
The numbers he bought were announced as the winning numbers. Posting a mistake is still announcing a winner
The winning numbers are tied to an actual drawing, and if his numbers didn't match the drawing then he didn't win. It doesn't matter what was posted on the website. The website doesn't determine the winners.

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Nemu
02/22/24 10:37:31 AM
#110:


DipDipDiver posted...
The winning numbers are tied to an actual drawing, and if his numbers didn't match the drawing then he didn't win. It doesn't matter what was posted on the website
And due to that mistake, he should hopefully be awarded some amount of money. In an ideal world, he'd get the full jackpot, but I don't think anyone actually thinks he'd ever get anywhere close to that.
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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 10:39:32 AM
#111:


Nemu posted...
And due to that mistake, he should hopefully be awarded some amount of money. In an ideal world, he'd get the full jackpot, but I don't think anyone actually thinks he'd ever get anywhere close to that.
I don't disagree with you, a lot of stuff can happen in 3 days and as someone else pointed out could have negative consequences both for a mistaken winner and for the actual winners. He'd have to be able to demonstrate in court what his damages are

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Rika_Furude
02/22/24 10:40:26 AM
#112:


DipDipDiver posted...
The winning numbers are tied to an actual drawing, and if his numbers didn't match the drawing then he didn't win. It doesn't matter what was posted on the website. The website doesn't determine the winners.
Then they shouldnt have announced them as the winning numbers
if its a truly random draw, they shouldnt care. They care because its not random and they dont want to pay
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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 10:42:08 AM
#113:


Rika_Furude posted...
Then they shouldnt have announced them as the winning numbers
if its a truly random draw, they shouldnt care. They care because its not random and they dont want to pay
That's a lot of words just to say you don't understand how lotteries work

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CSCA33
02/22/24 10:47:18 AM
#114:


Revelation34 posted...
He bought a ticket. He didn't sign an actual contract.
You seem to be intentionally obtuse about it at this point

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Cocytus
02/22/24 10:49:09 AM
#115:


Can you imagine going up there with your winning ticket and they say just throw it in the trash...?

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Cocytus
02/22/24 10:50:22 AM
#116:


CSCA33 posted...
You seem to be intentionally obtuse about it at this point
Flip the back of the ticket. There's your contract all spelled out.

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Rika_Furude
02/22/24 11:09:08 AM
#117:


DipDipDiver posted...
That's a lot of words just to say you don't understand how lotteries work
Its ok for you to be wrong, just admit it instead of being a dick
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Rika_Furude
02/22/24 11:09:32 AM
#118:


Cocytus posted...
Can you imagine going up there with your winning ticket and they say just throw it in the trash...?
Yeah its sketch as fuck
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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 11:11:07 AM
#119:


Rika_Furude posted...
Its ok for you to be wrong, just admit it instead of being a dick
It's ok for you to be ignorant about how lotteries work, no need for name calling

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BearlyWilling
02/22/24 11:12:28 AM
#120:


Oof. That sucks.

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CSCA33
02/22/24 11:18:20 AM
#121:


Cocytus posted...
Flip the back of the ticket. There's your contract all spelled out.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/12efc987.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/12d2fc4a.jpg

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Rika_Furude
02/22/24 11:23:46 AM
#122:


DipDipDiver posted...
It's ok for you to be ignorant about how lotteries work, no need for name calling
Lotteries typically have winning numbers announced, which is what happened with his numbers. They are playing takebacksies which is not how contests work no matter your desperation to claim otherwise
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BakonBitz
02/22/24 11:27:21 AM
#123:


I'm not sure if he'll get what he's asking for, but I would certainly be completely pissed off in his position. I think he deserves at least something.

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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 11:28:55 AM
#124:


Rika_Furude posted...
Lotteries typically have winning numbers announced, which is what happened with his numbers. They are playing takebacksies which is not how contests work no matter your desperation to claim otherwise

DipDipDiver posted...
The winning numbers are tied to an actual drawing, and if his numbers didn't match the drawing then he didn't win. It doesn't matter what was posted on the website. The website doesn't determine the winners.


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Rika_Furude
02/22/24 11:30:36 AM
#125:


you arent any less wrong the second time you post that
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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 11:31:51 AM
#126:


Stay mad, stay ignorant, stay rika

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MyMainAccount
02/22/24 1:57:06 PM
#127:


Tenlaar posted...
No they didnt, they erroneously posted numbers that were not numbers from the drawing. Winning = having the numbers that come up in the drawing, nothing else.
The dangerous issue here is that you're setting the precedent that the numbers they produce are not final or official, that they can "change their mind" and rescind numbers they post which hits at the foundation of the game; trust that they will pay out winnings.

Even if they aren't actually lying this time or next time, it means that nobody will be able to look at that page and be sure if they won. What if it's another "mistake"? It undermines the entire lottery.

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BakonBitz
02/22/24 2:07:39 PM
#128:


MyMainAccount posted...
The dangerous issue here is that you're setting the precedent that the numbers they produce are not final or official, that they can "change their mind" and rescind numbers they post which hits at the foundation of the game; trust that they will pay out winnings.

Even if they aren't actually lying this time or next time, it means that nobody will be able to look at that page and be sure if they won. What if it's another "mistake"? It undermines the entire lottery.
Yep, trust issue is what's ultimately important here. If they get away with a mistake then there's gonna be far fewer people trusting of the lottery, which will cut into lottery profits.

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Tenlaar
02/22/24 2:09:52 PM
#129:


MyMainAccount posted...
The dangerous issue here is that you're setting the precedent that the numbers they produce are not final or official, that they can "change their mind" and rescind numbers they post which hits at the foundation of the game; trust that they will pay out winnings.
The numbers that come up in the drawing are final. These were not numbers that came up in the drawing. Numbers that came up in the drawing were not rescinded and they didn't "change their mind" about anything. The man in question did not have numbers that came up in a drawing, so he did not win, so they are not failing to pay out winnings.
Even if they aren't actually lying this time or next time, it means that nobody will be able to look at that page and be sure if they won. What if it's another "mistake"? It undermines the entire lottery.
"People will have to contact the OLG to ensure they've won and find out how much money they would get" is not a horrible or overly onerous thing.
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CSCA33
02/22/24 2:43:16 PM
#131:


Lotto should cough up a few mil to settle the case and assign some pencil pushers to make sure they are announcing the correct numbers on their official website for future drawings, where many people check their ticket value and should be able to trust whats published

They have like three drawings every week now for powerball, and three days of announcing the wrong numbers is significant here

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VeggetaX
02/22/24 2:43:54 PM
#132:


TC knew what he was doing

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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 2:51:18 PM
#133:


MyMainAccount posted...
The dangerous issue here is that you're setting the precedent that the numbers they produce are not final or official, that they can "change their mind" and rescind numbers they post which hits at the foundation of the game; trust that they will pay out winnings.

Even if they aren't actually lying this time or next time, it means that nobody will be able to look at that page and be sure if they won. What if it's another "mistake"? It undermines the entire lottery.
The numbers that are final or official are the ones that are recorded from the drawing. It isn't possible for them to simply "change their mind." State lotteries are heavily regulated and whatever numbers come up in the drawing are THE numbers. These drawings are also typically televised and have dedicated law enforcement on site to monitor.

The website is just a tool for reporting those numbers, and if an error occurs there it does not change the outcome of the drawing in any way, shape, or form.

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CSCA33
02/22/24 3:33:17 PM
#134:


DipDipDiver posted...
The numbers that are final or official are the ones that are recorded from the drawing. It isn't possible for them to simply "change their mind." State lotteries are heavily regulated and whatever numbers come up in the drawing are THE numbers. These drawings are also typically televised and have dedicated law enforcement on site to monitor.

The website is just a tool for reporting those numbers, and if an error occurs there it does not change the outcome of the drawing in any way, shape, or form.
Who wants to bet someone else is going to keep repeating this point in the topic after it's already been repeated ad nauseam

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Ivany2008
02/22/24 3:35:36 PM
#135:


CSCA33 posted...
Who wants to bet someone else is going to keep repeating this point in the topic after it's already been repeated ad nauseam

At this point I wouldn't put it past them to put up an official ruling that states something along the lines of "Unless you hear from this official channel on this date between these time periods, do not take things verbatim.
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Tenlaar
02/22/24 4:01:55 PM
#136:


CSCA33 posted...
Who wants to bet someone else is going to keep repeating this point in the topic after it's already been repeated ad nauseam
You don't seem to have any problem with how many people have repeated the same thing in favor of the guy being given the jackpot.
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CSCA33
02/22/24 5:58:41 PM
#137:


Tenlaar posted...
You don't seem to have any problem with how many people have repeated the same thing in favor of the guy being given the jackpot.
No one in the topic has said the numbers on the official website were the numbers from the physical drawing where they drop the balls from the tumbler, a major point of the article in the original post even states they published the wrong numbers on their website where they announce the winning numbers. You're beating a dead horse to be needlessly pedantic about something that is already obvious to everyone who has read the news story.

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02/22/24 6:03:00 PM
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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 6:12:15 PM
#138:


The person I was responding to seemed to think that the lottery can just change the numbers on a whim, so obviously not everyone gets it. But the main point is that the website does not determine the winners, so him having the same numbers as the website does not matter if those numbers aren't the ones from the drawing. Unless he can demonstrate damages he isn't entitled to anything

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Drrobotniks
02/22/24 6:40:23 PM
#139:


Tenlaar posted...
You don't seem to have any problem with how many people have repeated the same thing in favor of the guy being given the jackpot.
just like you dont have any problems hiding your trolling nature by ignoring tank's valid response to you

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action52
02/22/24 6:56:04 PM
#140:


DipDipDiver posted...
The person I was responding to seemed to think that the lottery can just change the numbers on a whim, so obviously not everyone gets it. But the main point is that the website does not determine the winners, so him having the same numbers as the website does not matter if those numbers aren't the ones from the drawing.
I think most of us get the part in bold. But we're also saying that the lottery should be held responsible if they put false information on their official site and don't change it for three whole days. That's why I said it would be ridiculous for him to get the whole jackpot but he should get something. Personally I think even getting something in the millions would be extreme. I was thinking a settlement in the neighborhood of $10,000 - $100,000.

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LinkDaLunatic
02/22/24 6:58:16 PM
#141:


action52 posted...
Getting the whole jackpot would be excessive,
nope. they posted the numbers. their L. his W. simple as.

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modena
02/22/24 6:59:45 PM
#142:


I would really like to follow this court case.

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DipDipDiver
02/22/24 7:25:08 PM
#145:


action52 posted...
Personally I think even getting something in the millions would be extreme. I was thinking a settlement in the neighborhood of $10,000 - $100,000.
If he has demonstrable damages as a result then sure, but it doesn't sound like that's the case and him being super disappointed isn't worth thousands of dollars much less the millions he's suing for

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ExtremeLuchador
02/22/24 7:42:27 PM
#146:


This stuff sometimes happens on casino slot machines where it says you won a ton of money by error. The casino, leo, and lawyers tell you to pound sand.

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buddhamonster
02/22/24 7:52:03 PM
#147:


DipDipDiver posted...
State lotteries are heavily regulated and whatever numbers come up in the drawing are THE numbers. These drawings are also typically televised and have dedicated law enforcement on site to monitor.
Right... so when there's this much oversight and laws and security and regulations governing the thing... and then they fuck up for three straight days without noticing, that's a fucking problem.

They have all these things in place specifically so that something like this doesn't happen. The fact that it did, to me, absolutely entitles this guy to damages.

Now, the full amount plus intrest? Lolno. But he should be getting at least a few million in a settlement, at a bare minimum. You can't fuck up that badly with that many layers of built in regulations and protections and walk away scot free.

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masterbarf
02/22/24 7:55:58 PM
#148:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhI88tg1Gqg&pp=ygUWcGF5IHRoYXQgbWFuIGhpcyBtb25leQ%3D%3D

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LinkDaLunatic
02/22/24 8:38:05 PM
#149:


buddhamonster posted...
Now, the full amount plus intrest? Lolno.
lolyes actually. it isn't just about what's fair, it's about teaching them a lesson.

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Rika_Furude
02/22/24 8:38:18 PM
#150:


DipDipDiver posted...
If he has demonstrable damages as a result then sure, but it doesn't sound like that's the case and him being super disappointed isn't worth thousands of dollars much less the millions he's suing for
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