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SilvosForever 02/21/24 9:25:58 AM #1:	It's 2024. 720p internal resolution to get 60fps is unacceptable. 30fps is unacceptable. It looks like shit. It's looked like shit since the PS1 era. 1080p 60fps is the bare MINIMUM ALL games should aspire to, unless you're some indie game that has intentionally lower poly counts. It feels like devs are making the decision to target 30fps and it's just WRONG. If you can't render your image at 1080p 60fps then your game engine and assets are TRASH and you need to do better. Modern hardware can do it. I promise you. Get your game to 60fps 1080. Jesus. --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif <cite>SilvosForever posted [p:978960109] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>It's 2024. 720p internal resolution to get 60fps is unacceptable.30fps is unacceptable.It looks like shit. It's looked like shit since the PS1 era.1080p 60fps is the bare MINIMUM ALL games should aspire to, unless you're some indie game that has intentionally lower poly counts.It feels like devs are making the decision to target 30fps and it's just WRONG.If you can't render your image at 1080p 60fps then your game engine and assets are TRASH and you need to do better. Modern hardware can do it. I promise you.Get your game to 60fps 1080. Jesus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 02/21/24 9:27:16 AM #2:	For some, we're already there. Kids these days don't know how good they have it. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:978960139] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>For some, we're already there. Kids these days don't know how good they have it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarthGoomba 02/21/24 9:27:39 AM #3:	Always has been --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:978960144] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>Always has been </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/21/24 9:28:46 AM #4:	I was at that point 10 years ago --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:978960177] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>I was at that point 10 years ago </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 02/21/24 9:30:38 AM #5:	After playing games at 4k 60+ fps anything less looks dated. 1440p is ok at best when it has to be dialed down. 1080p...lol. Looks like potato cam. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:978960209] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>After playing games at 4k 60+ fps anything less looks dated. 1440p is ok at best when it has to be dialed down. 1080p...lol. Looks like potato cam. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jupiter 02/21/24 9:31:10 AM #6:	thronedfire2 posted... I was at that point 10 years ago --- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Jupiter posted [p:978960222] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>I was at that point 10 years ago</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperVegitoFAN 02/21/24 9:35:07 AM #7:	For anything except the Switch, 30fps SHOULD be unacceptable. The switch is excused, because its a weaker system whose main draw is its handheld abillities. There will always be some cost to a smaller handheld device, but atleast it doesnt mean a flat out worse game nowadays. Id also accept it for the Series S... but i dont think its acceptable for the ps5 and Series X. Have it as an option? sure i guess if someone really wants 4k, but these systems are so powerful that 1440p/60 or 1080p/60 not being an option... is unacceptable to me. --- https://imgur.com/a/8yiweDI <cite>SuperVegitoFAN posted [p:978960288] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>For anything except the Switch, 30fps SHOULD be unacceptable.The switch is excused, because its a weaker system whose main draw is its handheld abillities.There will always be some cost to a smaller handheld device, but atleast it doesnt mean a flat out worse game nowadays.Id also accept it for the Series S... but i dont think its acceptable for the ps5 and Series X. Have it as an option? sure i guess if someone really wants 4k, but these systems are so powerful that 1440p/60 or 1080p/60 not being an option... is unacceptable to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Karovorak 02/21/24 9:48:28 AM #8:	Honestly, always depends on the genre. Tactical RPGs and FPS are not the same. --- Planning is the process of replacing chance with error. <cite>Karovorak posted [p:978960550] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, always depends on the genre.Tactical RPGs and FPS are not the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperVegitoFAN 02/21/24 9:49:46 AM #9:	Karovorak posted... Honestly, always depends on the genre. Tactical RPGs and FPS are not the same. Whilst i do agree with this, in my experience thats more important for fps above 60. ...or atleast it is for me. I can see 60fps in slower games, and 120fps in faster ones.. 120fps in slower games though... thats a bit more iffy. --- https://imgur.com/a/8yiweDI <cite>SuperVegitoFAN posted [p:978960573] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>Karovorak posted... </cite><quote>Honestly, always depends on the genre.Tactical RPGs and FPS are not the same.</quote>Whilst i do agree with this, in my experience thats more important for fps above 60....or atleast it is for me. I can see 60fps in slower games, and 120fps in faster ones..120fps in slower games though... thats a bit more iffy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 02/21/24 9:49:50 AM #10:	I haven't played a PS5 game in 30FPS since I got it. Seems to be the norm is giving the two modes and I'm fine with that --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:978960575] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>I haven't played a PS5 game in 30FPS since I got it. Seems to be the norm is giving the two modes and I'm fine with that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jupiter 02/21/24 9:52:23 AM #11:	Honestly, I don't care what the genre is. I prefer 60+ no matter what. DQ11 and Persona 5 looked glorious in higher frames. I just love the way smooth animations look period. --- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Jupiter posted [p:978960631] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I don't care what the genre is. I prefer 60+ no matter what. DQ11 and Persona 5 looked glorious in higher frames. I just love the way smooth animations look period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 02/21/24 9:54:45 AM #12:	Nope. Every console is always like look 60fps! At the beginning, and then they push the hardware to where they can only do 30 --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:978960677] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>Nope. Every console is always like look 60fps! At the beginning, and then they push the hardware to where they can only do 30 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 02/21/24 9:55:51 AM #13:	30fps is fine for the vast majority of games. You nerds need to find something else to be upset about. --- Currently playing: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor <cite>bsp77 posted [p:978960696] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>30fps is fine for the vast majority of games. You nerds need to find something else to be upset about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/21/24 10:11:23 AM #14:	bsp77 posted... 30fps is fine for the vast majority of games. You nerds need to find something else to be upset about. maybe if thats all youre used to once you go 144hz theres no going back --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:978961032] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>30fps is fine for the vast majority of games. You nerds need to find something else to be upset about.</quote>maybe if thats all youre used toonce you go 144hz theres no going back </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 02/21/24 10:14:10 AM #15:	thronedfire2 posted... maybe if thats all youre used to once you go 144hz theres no going back I am sure it is actually pretty cool. I am just giving people shit. But I don't get too concerned as long as there are not dips. --- Currently playing: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor <cite>bsp77 posted [p:978961101] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>maybe if thats all youre used toonce you go 144hz theres no going back</quote>I am sure it is actually pretty cool. I am just giving people shit.But I don't get too concerned as long as there are not dips. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraxagoraKassan 02/21/24 10:16:09 AM #16:	What if I told you someone's vision is your blindness and that's why tech develops at the pace it does --- triple down <cite>PraxagoraKassan posted [p:978961146] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>What if I told you someone's vision is your blindness and that's why tech develops at the pace it does </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jupiter 02/21/24 10:16:15 AM #17:	bsp77 posted... I am sure it is actually pretty cool. I am just giving people shit. But I don't get too concerned as long as there are not dips. I mean truth be told, I could play a 30FPS game with no problem. I just strongly prefer 60+ lol. I don't deem 30fps unplayable and wouldn't even say it ruins my experience. I'd just say "meh, wish this was 60+," then continue to play lol. --- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Jupiter posted [p:978961150] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>I am sure it is actually pretty cool. I am just giving people shit.But I don't get too concerned as long as there are not dips.</quote>I mean truth be told, I could play a 30FPS game with no problem. I just strongly prefer 60+ lol. I don't deem 30fps unplayable and wouldn't even say it ruins my experience. I'd just say "meh, wish this was 60+," then continue to play lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperVegitoFAN 02/21/24 10:19:47 AM #18:	Jupiter posted... I mean truth be told, I could play a 30FPS game with no problem. I just strongly prefer 60+ lol. I don't deem 30fps unplayable and wouldn't even say it ruins my experience. I'd just say "meh, wish this was 60+," then continue to play lol. For me its definitely on a game by game basis. I think frame timing is the word or something? Watch Dogs Legion is NASTY at 30fps, but damn near everything i play on my switch works just fine. Sometimes theres an adjustment period but its usually not too rough. --- https://imgur.com/a/8yiweDI <cite>SuperVegitoFAN posted [p:978961215] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>Jupiter posted... </cite><quote>I mean truth be told, I could play a 30FPS game with no problem. I just strongly prefer 60+ lol. I don't deem 30fps unplayable and wouldn't even say it ruins my experience. I'd just say "meh, wish this was 60+," then continue to play lol.</quote>For me its definitely on a game by game basis.I think frame timing is the word or something?Watch Dogs Legion is NASTY at 30fps, but damn near everything i play on my switch works just fine.Sometimes theres an adjustment period but its usually not too rough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DipDipDiver 02/21/24 10:20:26 AM #19:	Tbh 30 only looks like shit if your normal is 60+. Most of the games I play are in the 30 range so I have no issues with it. 60 feels luxurious but not necessary. Now, I do think that in the future 60+ will become the norm because that's just the way technology goes. 30 fps will go the same way as SDTV --- Sack to crack, going to town <cite>DipDipDiver posted [p:978961226] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>Tbh 30 only looks like shit if your normal is 60+. Most of the games I play are in the 30 range so I have no issues with it. 60 feels luxurious but not necessary.Now, I do think that in the future 60+ will become the norm because that's just the way technology goes. 30 fps will go the same way as SDTV </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SilvosForever 02/21/24 10:22:09 AM #20:	The funny thing is, 60fps USED to be the default. The standard. NES, SNES, Genesis games, those were ALL at 60fps in North America. Super Mario World was 60fps. PS1 and N64 introduced stuff at 30fps and even lower. But everyone was so impressed with 3d graphics at the time that they didn't mind the lower frame rates. --- All your favorite RPGs: http://www.youtube.com/user/silvosforever http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/silvosforever/funnygif.gif <cite>SilvosForever posted [p:978961256] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>The funny thing is, 60fps USED to be the default. The standard.NES, SNES, Genesis games, those were ALL at 60fps in North America. Super Mario World was 60fps.PS1 and N64 introduced stuff at 30fps and even lower. But everyone was so impressed with 3d graphics at the time that they didn't mind the lower frame rates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 02/21/24 10:22:10 AM #21:	I wish more games would have the 40fps option. Looks good on the steam deck to my surprise. --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:978961258] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>I wish more games would have the 40fps option.Looks good on the steam deck to my surprise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cadcrafter 02/21/24 10:37:46 AM #22:	Its kind of like saying do you think we'll ever get to the point where pixel graphics are unacceptable If the game is designed with the frame limit in mind, then it looks fine --- "think before you press enter. all of you." - SmashFaqs Discord i want lemm to eat ten egg <cite>cadcrafter posted [p:978961644] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>Its kind of like saying do you think we'll ever get to the point where pixel graphics are unacceptableIf the game is designed with the frame limit in mind, then it looks fine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philip027 02/22/24 12:16:12 AM #23:	I don't care about low fps if it is consistent. A consistent 30 doesn't bother me at all. A 60 that occasionally dips will bother me. <cite>Philip027 posted [p:978974249] in Do you thi... [t:80702075]...</cite> <quote>I don't care about low fps if it is consistent.A consistent 30 doesn't bother me at all. A 60 that occasionally dips will bother me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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