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TomNook
02/23/24 6:08:56 PM
#101:


Winter Orb

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trdl23
02/23/24 11:26:27 PM
#102:


Okay by "tomorrow" I meant tomorrow from now

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ChichiriMuyo
02/24/24 5:50:40 AM
#104:


redrocket posted...
What is the critical flaw with the LCG model?
You're resurrecting a game that failed the first time, and you're doing it with the admission from day one that you aren't necessarily expecting to expand the group that still has an interest in said game.

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trdl23
02/24/24 1:01:50 PM
#105:


Kenri posted...
Legends (the set)
82/100

I don't know if Legends has aged well or poorly for most people. So many of the titular Legends are wack in design, in mana cost, and color identity. As the very first set after Revised, there still wasn't much knowledge on card design, and it showed. You could look at two cards with the same mana cost and rarity with bewilderment. For some reason, Albert fuckin Einstein was on a white enchantment.

For me though? It's aged so well. Look how many kickass, iconic cards came from Legends. The Elder Dragons, who would be part of Magic lore for decades to come. Tetsuo Umezawa, the building block from which all of OG Kamigawa's story came (Toshiro is Tetsuo's distant ancestor). Famous enchantments like Moat and The Abyss still used to denote modern cards. Some of the jank was fun jank, too -- I loved playing Hazezon Tamar in EDH and abusing the fact that I don't get the tokens immediately. The whole set is packed full of wild, cool designs that just wouldn't be possible now.

We won't get another Legends, and that's probably a good thing. I'm so glad we got one, though. One was enough.

Anagram posted...
Yu Gi Oh TCG
Takahashi did explicitly base Duel Monsters on Magic, so this gets a pass.

Anyway, 14/100

I jammed silly games of Magic with my buddies in boy scouts, but yugioh is where early-teen Trdl cut his teeth competitively. Early yugioh was a blast: There was a beautiful flow and simplicity to the gameplay, there was room for brewing and interaction, and combat actually mattered. Young me didn't have the vocabulary for that, though; I was just glad I couldn't get mana screwed. (Yes I appreciate the irony in me saying this after claiming the land system is OK)

That game is not modern yugioh.

Master Duel did encourage me to try it out, and every meme you've heard is probably accurate. The game is slammed full of force-fed "archetypes" that leaves precious little room to breathe. Games regularly end with one player only getting two turns max. Every card is a tutor for another card. Turns take longer than Zero combos in MvC3 and have 5% of the skill expression.

Say what you will about the state of Magic, but aberrations like Dredge aside, Magic still plays by its fundamental rules. The fundamental rules of Yugioh are irrelevant. "Special" summons aren't special if everyone does 6 a turn. The fact that you can "destroy" cards from hand or deck, which is different from discarding, which is different from "sending," just so you can get distinct triggers? Atrocious design to get around Konami's own stupid errors.

Worse than the game is yugioh culture. I have never seen as much theft and violence as when yugioh cards are involved, and I can't tell you why. Konami's judge program is a joke (and outright offensive to me as a long-time Magic judge), where judges often get carte-blanche to make weird rulings that set some kind of common law precedent because Konami can't be bothered to make comprehensive rules and tournament rules documents held together by things sturdier than chewing gum and twine. A high-level player got a suspension for deliberately having a token in his deck box that his deck couldn't actually make -- in Magic, we call that, "your opponent played themselves." On the opposite end, if you have a card that, say, names a card and makes your opponent discard it if they have it in hand, they apparently can refuse to show you their hand and just say "trust me bro it ain't there." You can call a judge to have them confirm, but given how low their QC is for judging...

There's plenty more asinine design and cultural aspects to the game, but I can feel my blood pressure rising.

I will still occasionally play Master Duel. Sometimes I just get a sadistic urge to inflict pain on someone. I break out a deck designed to play like a Jund deck in mtg and smile with a glint in my eye as players squirm under the bizarre circumstance of my deck actually playing to interact.

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trdl23
02/24/24 1:03:07 PM
#106:


At least I got kind of internet famous when this video came out of me beating someone with boomer cards and got over 340K views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbCeo5Pfv5U

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RikkuAlmighty
02/24/24 1:08:12 PM
#107:


Serra Angel

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trdl23
02/24/24 1:30:53 PM
#108:


Lopen posted...
Akroma Angel of Wrath (include Angel of Fury/lore stuff here too don't mean just the one card)
82/100

No rest. No mercy. No matter what.

One would be forgiven for wondering why I love Akroma so much when it has a keyword soup long before Questing Beast was even a concept. First off... she's eight mana with three white pips. If you cast her, you earned those keywords.

The story of Onslaught block is one of the low points in Magic lore, best described as "yo what the fuck." Akroma's writing isn't very good (but is still among the best of the era, somehow). However, the concept is amazing. An illusionist wizard, Ixidor, who loses his wife in a gladiatorial battle to an abomination is left marooned in a desert afterward, and the bad juju artifact of the land, the Mirari, decides its next monkey-paw wish will give the dude the ability to create reality and not just illusons. The very first thing Ixidor does? Give up his arm to reimagine his beloved wife as an alabaster angel and tell her to do anything he can to avenge the real one. Somewhere, Edward Elric is coping and seething.

Months and months of holy war later... well, then I'd have to talk about the Scourge novel. I won't because even thinking about it would drop my IQ. Still, the concept and artistic execution behind Akroma kick ass. Magic has the best angelic art of any fantasy medium, and even compared to that, Akroma is built different.

With so many legendary creatures getting spewed out every year to feed the Commander meat grinder, it saddens me that I doubt any of them will become icons on the level of Akroma. I don't think we'll be seeing "Alquist Proft's Memorial" granting your creatures the ability to crack clues to Sphinx's Rev. Akroma broke ground in design and backed it up with her aesthetic and conceptual execution, even if her actual author sucked, and she deserves the acclaim all these years later.

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trdl23
02/24/24 1:39:49 PM
#109:


NFUN posted...
Mind Goblin
What?/100

PeaceFrog posted...
Cube drafts
100/100

THE best way to play Magic. Limited is the best thing about Magic, and I don't understand why it's the only card game to push it as a core method of play. A custom Limited format where you can shape the experience to what you desire? Sign me the hell up!

I have a powerless vintage cube that I play with my friends every so often. It's currently 100% real, but I'm in a bit of a tight money spot, so I'm selling the pricey stuff from it soon. It makes for a wonderful experience that's different every time while giving my friends a chance to do some crazy powerful stuff. Here's the link if you want to check it out: https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/trdlcube

Building a cube takes time and experimentation, especially if you are trying to make it have a specific gimmick like a block-cube. Still, if you're a dedicated drafter, give it a try, or at least try other people's ideas. I really hope I can go to Cube Con this year.

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TeamRocketElite
02/24/24 1:45:30 PM
#110:


trdl23 posted...
On the opposite end, if you have a card that, say, names a card and makes your opponent discard it if they have it in hand, they apparently can refuse to show you their hand and just say "trust me bro it ain't there." You can call a judge to have them confirm, but given how low their QC is for judging...


Do you know what a typical penalty would be if the judge is competent and the player is caught lying?

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trdl23
02/24/24 1:47:54 PM
#111:


TeamRocketElite posted...
Do you know what a typical penalty would be if the judge is competent and the player is caught lying?
In Magic? They'd get their ass DQ'd on the spot. I hope it's the same in yugioh

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VintageGin
02/24/24 9:26:22 PM
#112:


trdl23 posted...
NFUN posted...
Mind Goblin
What?/100

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8d535c6d.jpg

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NFUN
02/24/24 9:36:23 PM
#113:


trdl23 posted...
What?/100
Mind Goblin DEEZ NUTS

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e3ba8e3b.jpg

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pjbasis
02/25/24 4:12:50 PM
#114:


recent booster draft meta

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Lopen
02/25/24 4:59:40 PM
#115:


Akroma love awesome. She was always my favorite mtg legend. Loved running her in red/white control ramp shells with Inferno.

Baron Sengir (overall character + card etc)

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ChaosTonyV4
02/25/24 5:17:48 PM
#116:


Spice8Rack

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Emeraldegg
02/27/24 12:05:24 PM
#117:


Should I take over

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trdl23
02/27/24 12:26:19 PM
#118:


No

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ChichiriMuyo
02/27/24 3:26:59 PM
#119:


Sheoldred, The Apocalypse

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trdl23
02/28/24 11:31:07 AM
#120:


It's my birthday, so I'll get back on this tomorrow

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redrocket
02/28/24 11:32:32 AM
#121:


Happy Birthday!

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trdl23
03/03/24 2:10:32 PM
#122:


Bump

Will get back on this tomorrow

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Emeraldegg
03/06/24 9:52:13 AM
#123:


a likely story

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trdl23
03/11/24 1:47:59 AM
#124:


That was a week ago huh

Whoops

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ChaosTonyV4
03/12/24 8:40:00 AM
#125:


RIP

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ZeeksFire
03/12/24 9:07:34 AM
#126:


Eddv posted...
The actual Streets in New Capenna

And while you are at it, the set as well.
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trdl23
03/14/24 3:21:55 PM
#127:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
The back of the card
90/100

It's a beautiful design. Everything you need to know about the philosophy of the game is there; it looks like a tome, the centering of the color wheel... it is funny to see Deckmaster remain when the concept was dumped over two decades ago. Of course, the advent of double-faced cards means that plenty of cards don't even have the back now!

Xtlm posted...
The pink back of the card
38/100

I'm very glad it didn't come to pass. It's just so garish.

For those who aren't aware, Garfield originally planned on each Magic expansion to have its own card back, starting with this monstrosity for Arabian Nights:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/39b39c49.jpg

Yikes.

This, of course, would have meant that we couldn't mix and match cards from different sets and pretty much destroyed any chance of Magic becoming the behemoth it now is.

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MarkS2222222222
03/14/24 5:16:02 PM
#128:


Tables

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Xtlm
03/16/24 12:20:27 AM
#129:


He did an update!

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xenosaga
03/16/24 3:26:59 AM
#131:


Really lucked out that the first alternate color scheme was so awful that it killed the idea.

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trdl23
03/19/24 4:20:19 PM
#132:


Obviously motivation has been low lately, depression's a bitch

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trdl23
03/24/24 12:45:47 AM
#133:


Up one more time

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ChichiriMuyo
04/02/24 5:08:28 PM
#134:


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