Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia topic 6: You have Thirty Minutes to move your Cube

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changmas posted...

oh i didn't know we were both named Nick

should be two scum though (Homer and Bart)

Abraham Simpson is an option as well?

We don't actually know what Red's roles or actions are, people are just speculating. Maybe Red's first name is Doctor, we just won't know until 2 am

i mean sure, grandpa simpson is an option, but my read on this game has always been 4 scum / 16 and not 5

Maybe Red is a doc that has a chance to kill someone randomly.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I can totally see Dr. Nick poisoning someone, but I'm going to be annoyed if we had an opportunity to take a shot lynching not corrik if he was actually a dead man walking.

And then maybe red doesn't actually pick and it's just a coin flip if he kills it saves someone? lol

That's what I said after the flavor was revealed

Missed that.

Maybe not rng based tho. Roles dont often use coinflips.

htaeD posted...

Maybe Red is a doc that has a chance to kill someone randomly.

I can't believe we are still at the maybe this guy is this thing part of the game.

:shrug:

His flavor is confirmed at least, so that's something

Yeah i dont think we really need to know more for now.

fair enough, not that I should be allowed to get on anyone's case here.

But I'd be willing to bet (not like a real one, not a modkillable one) that there be a lying power amongst ye.

Kirbys a real dick for getting janitored.

htaeD posted...

Yeah i dont think we really need to know morejanitors.

I whole heartedly disagree at this stage of the game, but let red have his ball. whatever.

Question.

What if there are Family Guy characters on the safe list and that's why Death was so easily able to guess I am Peter Griffin?

What 1 power claim could be the result of the janitor on Kirby?

Whether he's town or scum, wallz definitely neighbor'd Ulti (source: Ulti who was scanned by MZero)

Lea definitely learned red's flavor (source: red confirmation)

JC will be in the same category when he ends day (slightly) early today.

Red is confirmed by flavor scan.

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So unless it's exactly Lea and Red, I don't see how any of the 4 of them could be claiming Kirby's role.

Meanwhile sbell flipping town will force me to reconsider Death in a very serious way.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Meanwhile sbell flipping town will force me to reconsider Death in a very serious way.

you could just lynch death since you've got no reason to actually think I'm scum other than you can't apparently see this as me being my normal town self

Also I don't consider anything confirmed if it comes from red.

he's just a pile of lies and fuck all.

meant in the nicest of ways, of course, red.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Meanwhile sbell flipping town will force me to reconsider Death in a very serious way.

I feel the same way, about you I mean.
Your reaction to my claim is mostly what puts you above Sbell for me.

it's nice everyone can come together when it comes to lynching sbell though. friends we made among the way.

[5] Ctes- Kirby, JC, Chang, Wallz, Lea
[4] Corrik - Isquen, Ulti, Ctes, Red
[3] Ulti- Lopen, Death, Sbell
[1] Mzero- Ben
[1] Red- FD

i think these are correct eod d1 votals or at least close enough. underlined are 'confirmed enough for now', bold are dead, italics are scum. given ulti and lea were the others on mzero, he was a town train. do we think ulti was the scum push? doesn't help sbell at the moment but death shares that limelight equally

(5) Ctes- (JC), (Lopen), (Changmas), (Kirby), Kirby, JC, Chang, Wall, Lea
(4) Corrik - (JC), (Chang), Isquen, Lea, Ulti, Ctes, Red
(3) Ulti- (Isquen), (Lopen), Lopen, Death, Sbell, (Kirby)
(1) Mzero- (Lea), (Ulti), Ben
(1) Red- FD, (Lopen), (Lea), (Ben)
(1) Death- Red, (Ulti), (Sbell), (Lopen), (Lea)
(1) Isquen- Wallz, (Ctes), (Lea)
(0) Changmas- (Ctes)
(0) Lea-(Kirby), (Kirby)
(0) Wallz- (Isquen), (Isquen)
(0) JC- (Lopen), (Lea), (Lopen), (Kirby), (Lopen)
(0) Kirby- (Isquen), (Lopen)
(0) Sbell- (Ulti)

unabridged d1 votals

You didn't like my color coded version or what?

Forceful_Dragon posted...

You didn't like my color coded version or what?

i'll be honest i just missed it entirely

i am very mentally out of it at the moment, it's a miracle that i am having coherent mafia thoughts

anyways copypasta from before a refresh, wallz + 1 of sbell/death would make sense to me with an outside shot of fd. i'm not sure scum fd would get so genuinely annoyed that he couldn't get a claim out of me. impressive performance if he's scum.

i just don't know what to think of wallz' role and still think using it on ulti was a waste.

wallz did you ever explain why you didn't share the extra details yesterday after mzero shared his inno scan on ulti? you could trust ulti at that point, so why wait until today?

cop out ulti. you know I'm not scum.

if I tried hard enough i could find a post ulti said he never lynches me.

And you think that makes Ulti scum?

Based on claimed info he would have to be godfather who didn't act nights 1-3, right? Or in cahoots with specifically wallz?

and I'll drop this vote on Death since the powers that be decided it's a vanilla thing and maybe you'll not lynch me for shits and gigs.
maybe Sbell gets one this time.

##vote: death

so glad we all got those claims out

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e710f2ff.jpg

Forceful_Dragon posted...

And you think that makes Ulti scum?

no. I never said that.

FD I dunno why you feel the need to put words in people's mouths. it's very unbecoming.

strike that.

##unvote

##vote:fd

methinks you are trying too hard.

Minor thing, but I'd been under the impression that Wallz suspected Ulti for longer than he claimed he did. But Wallz' statement that he changed his mind on day3 is at least not disproven by anything he posted day3/4.

Honestly votal-wise I like him more than FD too.

But thats more advise for town down the road, in the likely event of me not making it to that decision myself.

Wallz can easily not be town this game.

Ulti has an Mzero scan in his favor. Unless he's godfather, then he goes to final 3 where I won't have the opportunity to tank the game and lynch him over real scum... (memba?)

Death... well whenever you're scum you get me, so I'm used to being your little town bitch each time. I don't love it but it's where we are.

Chang... what's he got going for him? BP claim is so delightfully fake-able.

Lea is pretty deeply invested in her claim however it's fakeable too.

Didnt Lea know about Reds flavor before he hinted it?

Changmas I will give you. Though he did beg to be scanned by Lea pretty hard, I cant rule out that he is the scum BP Godfather or something.

But his vote records are pretty good too.

htaeD posted...

Didnt Lea know about Reds flavor before he hinted it?

maybe scum knew his flavor already by different means... maybe Lea absorbed kirbys power and is just having a field day? so many ifs. But still more vsnillas than ifs or maybes so onto the slaughtering of the quiet vanillas.

Chaeix posted...

wallz did you ever explain why you didn't share the extra details yesterday after mzero shared his inno scan on ulti? you could trust ulti at that point, so why wait until today?

Because in soviet Springfield, the extra details share you!!!

Even when I fully claimed today, I expressed not really wanting to do so. By the time mzero shared that inno scan on ulti, basically no one suspected him. I was probably the last one to be suspicious of him. Either I would die and my full role wouldve made it to town, or ulti would die and I wanted to track someone without it being known.

I wouldve died without sharing my full role but imo keeping that info to myself, was no longer more valuable than preventing town from spinning in circles with incomplete information.

what hangs me up is that sharing the additional info didn't really change the canvas of the game.

so it's like a bunch of hullabaloo for no good reason. Like you could have still kept that info to yourself and I don't see how it negatively impacts addressing the possible makeup of teams.

Obellisk posted...

maybe scum knew his flavor already by different means... maybe Lea absorbed kirbys power and is just having a field day? so many ifs. But still more vsnillas than ifs or maybes so onto the slaughtering of the quiet vanillas.

As for Lea and Kirby, I went back and checked quickly after Kirby flipped with no role. Lea claimed the scan on red while Kirby was still around, and he didnt express distrust.

I am trying to come down from my seemingly permanent Lea paranoia, but Kirby did not have a problem with her claiming to have a single day scan on d2.

Obellisk posted...

what hangs me up is that sharing the additional info didn't really change the canvas of the game.

so it's like a bunch of hullabaloo for no good reason. Like you could have still kept that info to yourself and I don't see how it negatively impacts addressing the possible makeup of teams.

Are you talking to me? You literally thanked me after I posted clarifying my role. Chang and Lea expressed it being welcome info. There was no reason to let the convo keep going based on misinformation.

I thanked someone for something, I don't think it was you.

you had already claimed you kidnapped and tracked a player. knowing you could retrack after original player was dead does NOT change anything in my mind as far as trying to balance the game when the claimed powers already seem OP.

Obellisk posted...

what hangs me up is that sharing the additional info didn't really change the canvas of the game.

so it's like a bunch of hullabaloo for no good reason. Like you could have still kept that info to yourself and I don't see how it negatively impacts addressing the possible makeup of teams.

I'd say it changes the part where Wallz' role doesnt make much sense against a scumteam with a vanillaizer

Well fuck it i got no shield anymore anymore.

So i did attempt to make mzero not die last night

He died anyway. No RNG to dispel the craziness.

With our lack of power an unblockable and vanillizer on scum seems a bit much.

I also dont know why chang would claim bp. The proper way to play bp as town is to always just claim vanilla(or if feeling it, some form of town power). At no point should you claim bp unprompted.

htaeD posted...

I'd say it changes the part where Wallz' role doesnt make much sense against a scumteam with a vanillaizer

why?

It also makes me trust Lea because we are short power regardless of what Kirby was hiding.

red would have us believe scum had an unblockavle kill, vanillaizer and janitor...

and town got a BP, a doc, 2 cops and a tracker and whatever kirbs might be and is under powered.

Obellisk posted...

why?

Day3 (and maybe even earlier) everyone was saying Wallz being a oneshot made the Vanillaizer seem not as good if it could not feasibly stop such a power.

Granted Lea's claim also made Vanillaizer look stronger anyway, so you are right that it didnt change much on day4 I guess.

htaeD posted...

Day3 (and maybe even earlier) everyone was saying Wallz being a oneshot made the Vanillaizer seem not as good if it could not feasibly stop such a power.

Granted Lea's claim also made Vanillaizer look stronger anyway, so you are right that it didnt change much on day4 I guess.

I guess I don't get why they are linked