Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia topic 6: You have Thirty Minutes to move your Cube

(+) Yeah! (+)

Still alive
1. Death
2. FD
3. JC
4. Lea
5. Red
6. Sbell
7.Ulti
8. Wallz
9. Ben
10.Chang

Fired from life
D1 Ctes - Marge/Maggie Simpson, Scum Vanillaizer
N1 Lopen - Gil Gunderson, Town Unsuccessful salesman (Vanilla)
D2 Isquen - Principal Seymour Skinner, Town mommas boy (vanilla)
N2 Kirby - ????????
D3 Corrik - Lisa Simpson, Scum Studious (Role cop)
N3 Mzero - Chief Clancy Wiggum, Town Lazy cop (Odd day day cop)

Votals
(2) FD - Changmas, JC
(1) JC - FD

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends wednesday, 9 PM (I assume)

All that and no claims? What a waste of waking up at 3 am and reading all that. Boourns.

##vote: Wallz

Btw now I finally get why IGCD claimed Ulti was town from the very beginning.

Enchantress posted...

All that and no claims? What a waste of waking up at 3 am and reading all that. Boourns.

##vote: Wallz

Nope, this doesnt track. You said you feel really good about me being town more than once, and when Kirby flipped suddenly you abruptly decide I should be the next lynch all because guy who openly admits his role is kidnapper = must be the janitor!

Do you think Im lying about being Fat Tony? Or do you think flavor split be dammed, Fat Tony is scum? You dont have a guilty scan on me, nor will anyone ever.

wallmasterz posted...

Nope, this doesnt track. You said you feel really good about me being town more than once, and when Kirby flipped suddenly you abruptly decide I should be the next lynch all because guy who openly admits his role is kidnapper = must be the janitor!

Do you think Im lying about being Fat Tony? Or do you think flavor split be dammed, Fat Tony is scum? You dont have a guilty scan on me, nor will anyone ever.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ec01330e.jpg

Shockingly, when you think someone is town due to lynching scum over town, and it turns out both lynches were scum all along, you may reassess that person. Especially if that person's role turns out to be a truly useless one use ability with minimal town utility as it was used. You may even be capable of, and I shudder to think, lying about your flavour in a mafia game. But I'm glad you finally acknowledged this suspicion anyway.

Looking back Corrik VS Isquen was actually closer than I thought day2.

JC still looks good for voting Corrik there, but I also dont think Wallz' vote was riskfree anymore.
FD and Ben on the other hand look all the worse for splintering towards Mzero there.
Lea and Chang are in the middle since they mentioned suspicion towards Corrik but wanted to pursue that day3 instead. (and since Mzero claimed his scan so early, its hard to tell if they were gonna do so)

Red, Sbell and Ulti didnt have a vote down.
Ulti at least I dont think would jump on Isquen since he stated he felt the lynch was too easy.
Red and Sbell sounded disappointment in Isquen, but either way they could have jumped on Isquen if they are scum and if they sensed Corrik was in danger.

Its still hard to gauge in the end, since the vibe nonetheless was one of 'Isquen is going to get lynched anyway'

Oh and I should not forget to add that Ben did switch his vote to Isquen at the end, though he did not hide that he wanted Corrik to get more time to do stuff.

Enchantress posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ec01330e.jpg

Shockingly, when you think someone is town due to lynching scum over town, and it turns out both lynches were scum all along, you may reassess that person. Especially if that person's role turns out to be a truly useless one use ability with minimal town utility as it was used. You may even be capable of, and I shudder to think, lying about your flavour in a mafia game. But I'm glad you finally acknowledged this suspicion anyway.

Point one is lame. You acknowledged other town behaviors in my favor and I think you mightve even said you think Im town before I ever voted for ctes over Corrik, so I dont think much of you reducing your town read on me to voting ctes.

My role being misused is a matter of opinion, though I know youre not alone in stating it. And yet we both know the role people are assigned and how well they use it is not a great indicator of their alignment.

If I were scum Id want a really boss fake claim that seemed like it was helping town out. Maybe Id actually throw them a bone once every couple days, and maybe Id sneak in wrongly clearing a teammate.

And Lea, you failed to answer if you actually think Im Fat Tony or not.

wallmasterz posted...

And Lea, you failed to answer if you actually think Im Fat Tony or not.

"You may even be capable of, and I shudder to think, lying about your flavour in a mafia game."

You are mostly coming across as outraged that I chaned my opinion of you over the course of four mafia days. We're not operating under no takesie-backsies law over here. It's not compelling. Either find the real scum or argue you should be scanned over Chang, imo.

htaeD posted...

Red and Sbell sounded disappointment in Isquen, but either way they could have jumped on Isquen if they are scum and if they sensed Corrik was in danger.

I was trying to get Isquen to talk and play but its hard to justify defending anyone when they aren't going to give anything.

Werent we gonna test Chang with Red?

Also really want to see these claims but I have a suspicion that kirby was not vanilla.

htaeD posted...

Werent we gonna test Chang with Red?

testing like that never works out the way people intend. Like, chang doesn't die. Is he town bp or scum bp? We don't learn anything.

But we are precariously low on things for scum to vanillaize.

Chang at least hinted at being power before Kirby died. And him doing so makes sense if he is bulletproof.

Did Lea give us her second scan?

I haven't scanned yet

htaeD posted...

Werent we gonna test Chang with Red?

Yes. Red claims to be a vig that doesnt actually want to shoot. Chang claims to be bulletproof. This makes all the sense in the world.

Enchantress posted...

Either find the real scum or argue you should be scanned over Chang, imo.

Just go ahead and move the goalposts for why you want to scan/scan someone else instead of me.

But if you really want another argument, clearly you claim to suspect me more than Chang. Mislynching your prime suspect with a scan in your pocket is not very logical from a town perspective

So are we all just collectively pretending Corrik wasn't poisoned by Red and Corrik claimed was poisoned immediately after day started for the larfs?

wallmasterz posted...

Yes. Red claims to be a vig that doesnt actually want to shoot. Chang claims to be bulletproof. This makes all the sense in the world.

Just go ahead and move the goalposts for why you want to scan/scan someone else instead of me.

But if you really want another argument, clearly you claim to suspect me more than Chang. Mislynching your prime suspect with a scan in your pocket is not very logical from a town perspective

I don't recall setting goal posts in the first place, much like I don't recall who you actually think is scum here today.

I'm trying to think in my head how useful corrik's rolecop was.

Just getting our default names doesn't say much. But if he gets stuff like on the player list it is definitely pretty strong.

But also still unarguably not as useful as vanillaizer.

I just chalked Corrik claiming poisoned off to Corrik trying something weird.
If Red poisoned Corrik, I think he should have said so yesterday to get us to not waste a lynch on him.

I think in the long run Rolecop would probably do more for scum? At least since they had a Janitor.

you might be right actually.

Enchantress posted...

I don't recall setting goal posts in the first place, much like I don't recall who you actually think is scum here today.

I have been re-reading but need to start work in 10 minutes.

If youre determined to just mislynch me, I would start by scanning death. He has been around consistently but just there imo. He played well and won as 3p in blade mafia and he seems to be just coasting by without rocking the boat.

I do admit to feeling lazy Sunday, but I am not in the habit of rocking boats often anyway.
If you ask me now. I would rock FD, Sbells or Bens boats.

Also my 3p play should be compared to my townplay anyway.

htaeD posted...

Also my 3p play should be compared to my townplay anyway.

well to be fair Im comparing your 3p play to your hypothetical scum play, both non-town alignments.

I can see some logic. But I dont think that works for any player since 3ps operate with the same knowledge as town in most cases.

Yeah. No question 3p isnt the same as scum, but in both cases youre trying to fly under the radar. In both examples you dont actually need to find scum, you just need to hit your wincon, so they are alike in that way.

I dont know every common 3p wincon so Im sure there are exceptions.

Thats fair.
Though I dont think I played under the radar in Blade Mafia.
My selfperception could be lopsided admittedly.

the only thing sbells boat is doing is going back to Quahog or however it's spelled.

As if Peter Griffin would ever get a boat when he can get a box.

Obellisk posted...

the only thing sbells boat is doing is going back to Quahog or however it's spelled.

Sbell it feels like youve mostly just posted in defense of yourself lately or very neutral comments as well. What do you think of the game now?

htaeD posted...

If you ask me now. I would rock FD, Sbells or Bens boats.

Yeah probably.

wallmasterz posted...

And Lea, you failed to answer if you actually think Im Fat Tony or not.

this is a strange post

Enchantress posted...

So are we all just collectively pretending Corrik wasn't poisoned by Red and Corrik claimed was poisoned immediately after day started for the larfs?

I don't recall setting goal posts in the first place, much like I don't recall who you actually think is scum here today.

.why did we lynch him if that was real

changmas posted...

this is a strange post

makes me feel like wallz may be 3rd party and he's adamant that he's not scum because he knows he would show up as "not a simpson".

wallmasterz posted...

Sbell it feels like youve mostly just posted in defense of yourself lately or very neutral comments as well. What do you think of the game now?

what changed from last night to this moment

Obellisk posted...

makes me feel like wallz may be 3rd party and he's adamant that he's not scum because he knows he would show up as "not a simpson".

I do think something should have happened night3 in that case.
Or even night2 since what happened to Kirby does not line up with what happened to Ulti.

htaeD posted...

I do think something should have happened night3 in that case.
Or even night2 since what happened to Kirby does not line up with what happened to Ulti.

why?
Wallz could be 3rd party Jack and used up all his shit already and it wasn't malicious but informative and wallz just has no reason to share it.

Jack is possible actually.
I was just imagining a 3p with a single multi use power.

If red poisoned Corrik we should have been informed so we could have had the option of lynching someone else d3.

I still don't see any assurance from JC that he intends to claim that, only other people on JCs behalf, I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be okay with that.

can someone repost fds claims spreadsheet.

please and thank you.

I just want to rewrap my brain around a few things before I start pointing fingers in a tinfoil hat kind of way

Death with valentines day coming very soon would you like to be a sweetheart for me and read back through FDs posts to find where he already wrote out his claim

<3

I didn't say I wrote out my claim, I said I revealed my renamed role.

yeah that whatever

was it Fartknocker?