Current Events > That time Russian scientists sent a dog to die in space for no real reason.

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Maze_ 02/10/24 3:24:25 PM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ut6fsaQOiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqJ2DcQJcMw "Work with animals is a source of suffering to all of us. We treat them like babies who cannot speak. The more time passes, the more I'm sorry about it. We shouldn't have done it [...] We did not learn enough from this mission to justify the death of the dog." ~ Oleg Gazenko Before the launch, one of the mission scientists took Laika home to play with his children. In a book chronicling the story of Soviet space medicine "Laika was quiet and charming ... I wanted to do something nice for her: She had so little time left to live." ~ Vladimir Yazdovsky "Hmmm, we're not sure how to create something that can safely re-enter the atmosphere once it makes it into space. As an experiment, let's see what happens if we send a dog. OH it turns out it dies in agony." Well no shit comrade. WTF. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:978767445] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ut6fsaQOiwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqJ2DcQJcMw"Work with animals is a source of suffering to all of us. We treat them like babies who cannot speak. The more time passes, the more I'm sorry about it. We shouldn't have done it [...] We did not learn enough from this mission to justify the death of the dog." ~ Oleg GazenkoBefore the launch, one of the mission scientists took Laika home to play with his children. In a book chronicling the story of Soviet space medicine "Laika was quiet and charming ... I wanted to do something nice for her: She had so little time left to live." ~ Vladimir Yazdovsky"Hmmm, we're not sure how to create something that can safely re-enter the atmosphere once it makes it into space. As an experiment, let's see what happens if we send a dog. OH it turns out it dies in agony."Well no shit comrade. WTF. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/10/24 3:27:18 PM #2:	Whats the difference between this and the millions of animals that die in medical testing, except that they felt afterward that they didnt get enough info to make it worth it like they did do it for a reason at least, for space research. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:978767490] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Whats the difference between this and the millions of animals that die in medical testing, except that they felt afterward that they didnt get enough info to make it worth itlike they did do it for a reason at least, for space research. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 02/10/24 3:27:23 PM #3:	Damn rip. They should have sent like an octopus instead. Im pretty sure it could be trained for space tasks --- I'm a Taurus. Currently playing: Maniac Mansion Deluxe Edition (PC) & DMC3:SE Ubisoft Port (PC) He/Him <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:978767491] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Damn rip. They should have sent like an octopus instead. Im pretty sure it could be trained for space tasks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/10/24 3:27:52 PM #4:	It was a critical step for the space race. That was the reason. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978767502] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>It was a critical step for the space race. That was the reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 02/10/24 3:28:22 PM #5:	Doe posted... except that they felt afterward that they didnt get enough info to make it worth it I think you just found the difference. Tyranthraxus posted... It was a critical step for the space race. That was the reason. How? O_o --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:978767504] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>except that they felt afterward that they didnt get enough info to make it worth it</quote>I think you just found the difference.Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>It was a critical step for the space race. That was the reason.</quote>How? O_o </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 02/10/24 3:28:45 PM #6:	Even a bad reason is still a reason. RIP space canine. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:978767507] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Even a bad reason is still a reason.RIP space canine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/10/24 3:29:26 PM #7:	Maze_ posted... How? O_o Because pnut027 posted... Even a bad reason is still a reason. RIP space canine. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978767517] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite><quote>How? O_o</quote>Becausepnut027 posted... </cite><quote>Even a bad reason is still a reason.RIP space canine.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/10/24 3:31:50 PM #8:	That dog must have been so scared. <cite>Zikten posted [p:978767540] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>That dog must have been so scared.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 02/10/24 3:32:57 PM #9:	How was it a critical step in the space race to kill a dog? They knew the dog was going to die in re-entry. They did not learn a thing. It provided nothing. Sputnik 2 was not designed to be retrievable, it had always been accepted that Laika would die --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:978767553] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>How was it a critical step in the space race to kill a dog?They knew the dog was going to die in re-entry. They did not learn a thing. It provided nothing. Sputnik 2 was not designed to be retrievable, it had always been accepted that Laika would die </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/10/24 3:38:09 PM #10:	Maze_ posted... How was it a critical step in the space race to kill a dog? I mean youre not really approaching it in good faith when you word it like this. Do you really believe they decided to send a dog out just because? With no intention to learn things that would go towards human beings traveling through space safely? Didnt the Soviets get the first man and woman in orbit --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:978767620] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite><quote>How was it a critical step in the space race to kill a dog?</quote>I mean youre not really approaching it in good faith when you word it like this. Do you really believe they decided to send a dog out just because? With no intention to learn things that would go towards human beings traveling through space safely? Didnt the Soviets get the first man and woman in orbit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hospy 02/10/24 3:41:29 PM #11:	I don't think we knew if living organisms could survive being in orbit at that point in time. <cite>Hospy posted [p:978767665] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>I don't think we knew if living organisms could survive being in orbit at that point in time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/10/24 3:41:41 PM #12:	Maze_ posted... How was it a critical step in the space race to kill a dog? Because they were the first ones to send a living thing into space. Maze_ posted... They did not learn a thing. That is not true. They were pretty sure it wasn't going to survive on the way back down but at the time they weren't sure it would even survive going up. They say they didn't learn enough to justify it, and that's a fair assessment but it wasn't like they learned nothing. The project was predominantly driven by dick measuring government psychos in the USSR at the time and not by researchers. The only thing that mattered to them was that they did it before America. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978767670] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite><quote>How was it a critical step in the space race to kill a dog?</quote>Because they were the first ones to send a living thing into space.Maze_ posted... </cite><quote>They did not learn a thing.</quote>That is not true. They were pretty sure it wasn't going to survive on the way back down but at the time they weren't sure it would even survive going up. They say they didn't learn enough to justify it, and that's a fair assessment but it wasn't like they learned nothing. The project was predominantly driven by dick measuring government psychos in the USSR at the time and not by researchers. The only thing that mattered to them was that they did it before America. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/10/24 3:42:50 PM #13:	Laika come home --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978767684] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Laika come home </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 02/10/24 3:44:47 PM #14:	Didn't Americans do that with a chimp but it survived the descent? America > Russia --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:978767710] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Didn't Americans do that with a chimp but it survived the descent?America > Russia </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JoeDangIt 02/10/24 3:45:26 PM #15:	But then that dog went on to join the Guardians of the Galaxy so it's all good. <cite>JoeDangIt posted [p:978767717] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>But then that dog went on to join the Guardians of the Galaxy so it's all good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hospy 02/10/24 3:48:36 PM #16:	LeoRavus posted... Didn't Americans do that with a chimp but it survived the descent? America > Russia We killed a lot of monkeys during the space program unfortunately. <cite>Hospy posted [p:978767752] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>Didn't Americans do that with a chimp but it survived the descent?America > Russia</quote>We killed a lot of monkeys during the space program unfortunately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/10/24 3:49:06 PM #17:	LeoRavus posted... Didn't Americans do that with a chimp but it survived the descent? America > Russia I looked it up and there were five chimps named Albert the US sent up that all died --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:978767758] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>Didn't Americans do that with a chimp but it survived the descent?America > Russia</quote>I looked it up and there were five chimps named Albert the US sent up that all died </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 02/10/24 3:49:55 PM #18:	Hopefully anyone involved in it is dead by now. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:978767772] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully anyone involved in it is dead by now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 02/10/24 3:54:55 PM #19:	Doe posted... I looked it up and there were five chimps named Albert the US sent up that all died I was thinking of Ham. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wdbV4SBGYo --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:978767846] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>I looked it up and there were five chimps named Albert the US sent up that all died</quote>I was thinking of Ham.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wdbV4SBGYo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 02/10/24 4:28:21 PM #20:	Doe posted... I mean youre not really approaching it in good faith when you word it like this. That was how he worded it Do you really believe they decided to send a dog out just because? With no intention to learn things that would go towards human beings traveling through space safely? Yes and so did they Didnt the Soviets get the first man and woman in orbit Yes but not because they killed Laika Tyranthraxus posted... That is not true. They were pretty sure it wasn't going to survive on the way back down but at the time they weren't sure it would even survive going up. They say they didn't learn enough to justify it, and that's a fair assessment but it wasn't like they learned nothing. The project was predominantly driven by dick measuring government psychos in the USSR at the time and not by researchers. The only thing that mattered to them was that they did it before America. Confirming the blatanly obvious that they already knew isn't learning anything. They knew they could get a living being into space and they knew it would die on re-entry. That's like saying "You don't know running someone over with a train going at 400MPH will kill them until we try it." and then claim you're learning something. Also, how is confirming what you already knew a critical step for the space race? I feel like you're arguing for the sake of arguing here. You're literally arguing against the scientists who killed the dogs and can't even explain how. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:978768312] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>I mean youre not really approaching it in good faith when you word it like this.</quote>That was how he worded it<quote>Do you really believe they decided to send a dog out just because? With no intention to learn things that would go towards human beings traveling through space safely?</quote>Yes and so did they<quote>Didnt the Soviets get the first man and woman in orbit</quote>Yes but not because they killed LaikaTyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>That is not true. They were pretty sure it wasn't going to survive on the way back down but at the time they weren't sure it would even survive going up. They say they didn't learn enough to justify it, and that's a fair assessment but it wasn't like they learned nothing. The project was predominantly driven by dick measuring government psychos in the USSR at the time and not by researchers. The only thing that mattered to them was that they did it before America.</quote>Confirming the blatanly obvious that they already knew isn't learning anything. They knew they could get a living being into space and they knew it would die on re-entry.That's like saying "You don't know running someone over with a train going at 400MPH will kill them until we try it." and then claim you're learning something.Also, how is confirming what you already knew a critical step for the space race?I feel like you're arguing for the sake of arguing here. You're literally arguing against the scientists who killed the dogs and can't even explain how. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kibouno 02/10/24 5:19:08 PM #21:	There was a reason, its not a good reason but there is a reason that isnt for shits and giggles. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d6526099.png https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e1571326.jpg Doe posted... Whats the difference between this and the millions of animals that die in medical testing, except that they felt afterward that they didnt get enough info to make it worth it like they did do it for a reason at least, for space research. Tyranthraxus posted... It was a critical step for the space race. That was the reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k <cite>Kibouno posted [p:978769092] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>There was a reason, its not a good reason but there is a reason that isnt for shits and giggles. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d6526099.pnghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e1571326.jpgDoe posted... </cite><quote>Whats the difference between this and the millions of animals that die in medical testing, except that they felt afterward that they didnt get enough info to make it worth itlike they did do it for a reason at least, for space research.</quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>It was a critical step for the space race. That was the reason.</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83JR2IoI8k</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 02/10/24 5:30:41 PM #22:	Dog was a secret capitalist. Putin revealed it in the Putin interview. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:978769264] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Dog was a secret capitalist. Putin revealed it in the Putin interview. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/10/24 6:33:43 PM #23:	Maze_ posted... They knew they could get a living being into space No they did not. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978770077] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite><quote>They knew they could get a living being into space</quote>No they did not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spartan_Jedi117 02/10/24 8:01:58 PM #24:	Not related, but Russia has history with killing dogs. They tried to train dogs to target German tanks while the dogs where wearing an explosive harness. Didn't work because the Russians used their own tanks to train the dogs instead German tanks, big difference is the tanks ran off of for fuel. tldr; Fuck Russia, they hate the goodest bois --- What in Sam Hill is a puma? <cite>Spartan_Jedi117 posted [p:978771335] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Not related, but Russia has history with killing dogs. They tried to train dogs to target German tanks while the dogs where wearing an explosive harness. Didn't work because the Russians used their own tanks to train the dogs instead German tanks, big difference is the tanks ran off of for fuel. tldr; Fuck Russia, they hate the goodest bois </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thermador446 02/10/24 8:08:18 PM #25:	Like 'Operation Acoustic Kitty' was much better. --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch <cite>Thermador446 posted [p:978771445] in That time ... [t:80693344]...</cite> <quote>Like 'Operation Acoustic Kitty' was much better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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