Board 8 > Rumorzone - Xbox changing strategy, will bring games to PS5 after Series X/PC

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UshiromiyaEva
02/14/24 11:44:46 PM
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Kenri posted...
I'm just trying to understand if there's something more to this than "our games are going multiplatform" when it's like... bro your games have been multiplatform.

Yeah, but there's a difference between Forza on your phone and Gears of War is in the eShop.

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MacArrowny
02/15/24 12:29:39 AM
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Kenri posted...
Is it a brand now? For games?? I wouldn't call Halo Infinite on Steam "an Xbox game" but maybe I'm the weird one.
Look at the publisher

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WhiteLens
02/15/24 2:12:03 AM
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And look at the back of the box for Psychonauts 2 on PS4

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/box/3/8/0/879380_back.jpg

And Ori on Switch

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/box/9/4/2/770942_back.jpg

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Kenri
02/15/24 2:15:51 AM
#54:


MacArrowny posted...
Look at the publisher
That's literally why I picked that game as an example yeah.

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foolm0r0n
02/15/24 7:52:01 AM
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They should rename it to XService

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pezzicle
02/15/24 8:33:04 AM
#56:


Kenri posted...
Yeah I'm sorry if I'm coming off as deliberately obtuse, I'm just trying to understand if there's something more to this than "our games are going multiplatform" when it's like... bro your games have been multiplatform.
i honestly think they are just announcing that the series is their last actual console are they are going to go full streaming like integrated into TVs or some shit and will also be offering microsoft published games on sony consoles via gamepass in 2027 or something

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MacArrowny
02/15/24 10:09:01 AM
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There's no way they announce any of that now. This is just going to be mentioning a couple games going cross-platform. I do think they'd be wise to not make a real Xbox in the future though. A Steam Deck-style thing that plays Windows games is the way to go. Add Xbox backwards compatibility to Windows, even!

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SHINE_GET_64
02/15/24 10:13:36 AM
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yeah I'm basically expecting 2-3 games being announced as multiplatform and just a mission statement about where they're heading for the future, but nothing concreate

whenever Nintendo does their Switch 2 reveal though I wouldn't be surprised if it's revealed then it'll have Game Pass on it

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foolm0r0n
02/15/24 10:28:33 AM
#59:


MacArrowny posted...
Add Xbox backwards compatibility to Windows, even!
This is kinda likely, especially if they do a handheld

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LightningStrikes
02/15/24 10:38:04 AM
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andylt posted...
Yes LS, join the Game Pass Crew

Its great!

Kenri posted...
Yeah I'm sorry if I'm coming off as deliberately obtuse, I'm just trying to understand if there's something more to this than "our games are going multiplatform" when it's like... bro your games have been multiplatform.

Xbox has been the brand for all of Microsofts gaming stuff for a while now. And when they say mutliplatform, they mean to Playstation and Switch. The PC has been considered neutral ground for a while, when people say exclusive these days they mean console exclusive.

Theyll keep making Xbox consoles until theres no money in it any more, though services are clearly their bread and butter. In the last week I have spent more time interacting with the Xbox ecosystem than I have in my entire life combined and I still dont own a physical Xbox! I think that will stay as an option for some time to come but Xbox is a platform thats not just tied to a console now.

The question is does Sony follow suit?

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LiquidOshawott
02/15/24 10:40:43 AM
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PC is basically Microsofts platform anyway, when you game its almost always Windows not Linux or Mac or whatever

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MacArrowny
02/15/24 10:45:58 AM
#62:


LiquidOshawott posted...
PC is basically Microsofts platform anyway, when you game its almost always Windows not Linux or Mac or whatever
Steam Deck is cutting into that.

LightningStrikes posted...


Theyll keep making Xbox consoles until theres no money in it any more, though services are clearly their bread and butter. In the last week I have spent more time interacting with the Xbox ecosystem than I have in my entire life combined and I still dont own a physical Xbox! I think that will stay as an option for some time to come but Xbox is a platform thats not just tied to a console now.

The question is does Sony follow suit?
Sony would lose far more than they gained by putting their games on Xbox.

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LightningStrikes
02/15/24 10:49:59 AM
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Would they? Sonys first party development costs are massive, and although its not to PS2 levels they are the dominant home console for third party games. Few people outside of enthusiast spaces bought a PS4 for first party games (I did!), most bought it for general gaming. Id say a large percentage of Playstation owners have never touched a first party game! So at a certain point if theyre gonna keep making these big games they may as well put them on everything eventually. Theyre already coming to PC.

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LiquidOshawott
02/15/24 10:58:17 AM
#64:


MacArrowny posted...
Steam Deck is cutting into that.

In a way? You can install Windows on a Steam Deck (and it is even encouraged to try games on Game Pass)

the clones all use Windows too

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MacArrowny
02/15/24 11:09:26 AM
#65:


LiquidOshawott posted...
In a way? You can install Windows on a Steam Deck (and it is even encouraged to try games on Game Pass)
Less than 10% of Steam Decks have Windows installed.

LightningStrikes posted...
Would they? Sonys first party development costs are massive, and although its not to PS2 levels they are the dominant home console for third party games. Few people outside of enthusiast spaces bought a PS4 for first party games (I did!), most bought it for general gaming. Id say a large percentage of Playstation owners have never touched a first party game! So at a certain point if theyre gonna keep making these big games they may as well put them on everything eventually. Theyre already coming to PC.
About a quarter of all PS game sales are consistently first party titles, going by Sony's financial reports. That's a huge percentage, especially given how many small indie games sell on PS.

Besides, Xbox will be dead as an ecosystem by the time they could port anything over.

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pezzicle
02/15/24 12:38:30 PM
#66:


MacArrowny posted...
There's no way they announce any of that now. This is just going to be mentioning a couple games going cross-platform. I do think they'd be wise to not make a real Xbox in the future though. A Steam Deck-style thing that plays Windows games is the way to go. Add Xbox backwards compatibility to Windows, even!

og for sure I dont think all that is stated but I do think that is the direction we are moving

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pezzicle
02/15/24 12:40:21 PM
#67:


MacArrowny posted...


Sony would lose far more than they gained by putting their games on Xbox.

eh, not if they have their games be exclusive to Sony for 3-4 years like they have been before putting games on PC

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pezzicle
02/15/24 12:41:31 PM
#68:


MacArrowny posted...
Less than 10% of Steam Decks have Windows installed.

About a quarter of all PS game sales are consistently first party titles, going by Sony's financial reports. That's a huge percentage, especially given how many small indie games sell on PS.

Besides, Xbox will be dead as an ecosystem by the time they could port anything over.
you think the xbox ecosystem will be dead by like 2028?

what


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SHINE_GET_64
02/15/24 2:54:48 PM
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so I don't know if the xbox podcast is a live thing or if they just put up the full video 5 minutes from now and outlets will quickly look through it for the details

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SHINE_GET_64
02/15/24 3:00:40 PM
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oh jeff gerstmann is live I'll just watch his version of it

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LightningStrikes
02/15/24 3:01:20 PM
#71:


Okay the Xbox ecosystem is (almost) definitely not going to be dead in a few years time, lets calm down here lol. Even if they stopped making consoles (which is unlikely in the immediate future) Xbox will live on via cloud gaming and PC.

Also, do Sony count download only titles in their software sales? Nintendo do not for instance.

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SHINE_GET_64
02/15/24 3:01:31 PM
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23 minute video

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SHINE_GET_64
02/15/24 3:03:57 PM
#73:


Four games coming to other consoles
PHIL WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT GAMES THEY ARE THOUGH
you have to wait until the publishers announce them

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WhiteLens
02/15/24 3:05:47 PM
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Already said that they are NOT Starfield nor Indiana Jones

And heres the video for the podcast
https://youtu.be/KGlD9SO3rKU?si=S60ZD-u78yeIDn9d

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LightningStrikes
02/15/24 3:12:35 PM
#75:


SHINE_GET_64 posted...
Four games coming to other consoles
PHIL WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT GAMES THEY ARE THOUGH
you have to wait until the publishers announce them

Apparently its Hi-Fi Rush, Pentiment, Sea of Thieves, and Grounded according to The Verge. Overall I think its fair to say there has been a massive overreaction lmao.

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MacArrowny
02/15/24 3:14:27 PM
#76:


LightningStrikes posted...
Apparently its Hi-Fi Rush, Pentiment, Sea of Thieves, and Grounded according to The Verge. Overall I think its fair to say there has been a massive overreaction lmao.
How do you mean? The rumors with Starfield were that it won't be announced until after its first expansion in Fall.

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SHINE_GET_64
02/15/24 3:17:02 PM
#77:


Diablo IV coming to Game Pass

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LightningStrikes
02/15/24 3:27:46 PM
#78:


MacArrowny posted...
How do you mean? The rumors with Starfield were that it won't be announced until after its first expansion in Fall.

They said there is no plan for Starfield and Indiana Jones, which of course doesnt mean no, but it does appear to be not soon if it does happen. Sounds like not much is actually confirmed beyond these four.

What is confirmed is that theyre working on new hardware.

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MacArrowny
02/15/24 3:36:49 PM
#79:


LightningStrikes posted...
Sounds like not much is actually confirmed beyond these four.
So when do you think they'll announce more games coming to PS/Switch? Be specific, if you could.

Edit: whoops, just saw they're announcing more games at their June showcase.

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pezzicle
02/15/24 3:48:18 PM
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Grounded is a great game

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MoogleKupo141
02/15/24 4:21:10 PM
#81:


MacArrowny posted...
So when do you think they'll announce more games coming to PS/Switch? Be specific, if you could.

Edit: whoops, just saw they're announcing more games at their June showcase.

theyre revealing more new first party games in June, theyre not announcing more games coming to other platforms


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GranzonEx
02/15/24 4:33:28 PM
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What I think is happening is they are massively scaling back their hardware production in the future. Instead of ordering 15 million chips from TSMC per year they are going to pull back to maybe 10 million. Next console cycle they will also not make two SKU, only one high powered box.

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MoogleKupo141
02/15/24 4:51:21 PM
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I think they just realize stuff like Hi-Fi Rush isnt a system seller, but people will buy it on a Switch, so theyll sell it to people on a Switch.

and Sea of Thieves is a live service situation that needs a player base to survive, and theyve probably peaked on how many Xbox owners will get into it so may as well branch out.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/15/24 6:49:46 PM
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I didn't watch the stream, but most of what I'm seeing checking in hours later is people clowning on Phil for being pissed that Helldivers II isn't on Xbox.

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