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Humble_Novice 11/15/23 12:19:18 PM #1: |
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-police-department-policy-ban-officers-hate-extremist-groups/
CHICAGO (CBS) -- A new policy approved by the city's civilian police oversight agency will ban Chicago police officers from participating in hate and extremist groups. --- Miss the old GameFAQs politics board? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 11/15/23 12:20:33 PM #2: |
The fact that this needs to be a thing
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EmilyTheCEman 11/15/23 12:20:54 PM #3: |
The fact that this needed to become a thing tells you the Chicago Police Department is a fucking nightmare.
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LearntoRead 11/15/23 12:21:33 PM #4: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... The fact that this needs to be a thing This is indeed another, "this wasn't already a rule?" moment. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 11/15/23 12:22:40 PM #5: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... The fact that this needs to be a thingIt should be a thing, what's confusing is that it wasn't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 11/15/23 12:23:14 PM #7: |
I wonder how certain folks will say this is actually a bad thing.
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NoxObscuras 11/15/23 12:23:18 PM #8: |
EmilyTheCEman posted...
The fact that this needed to become a thing tells you the Chicago Police Department is a fucking nightmare.But the Chicago Police did it for the Lord, they did it for Chicago --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 11/15/23 12:23:26 PM #9: |
The fact police have to be told not to join hate groups says it all
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RchHomieQuanChi 11/15/23 12:25:18 PM #10: |
DipDipDiver posted...
It should be a thing, what's confusing is that it wasn't Oh for sure, but it's just sad that enough law enforcers are involved with hate groups to the point where we need laws like this. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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name_unknown 11/15/23 12:25:42 PM #11: |
Humble_Novice posted... Cities like Washington, D.C., Dallas, and New York have similar policies on the books. No LA? Also outside Miami. FL would never consider such a law. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueAnnihilator 11/15/23 12:27:02 PM #12: |
How tf was that not already a thing?
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PissedOffMonk 11/15/23 2:03:52 PM #13: |
Why do they only name right wing groups? Are there no left wing hate groups or is it okay to join those while on the force? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsNotA2Mer 11/15/23 2:08:29 PM #14: |
InB4 "A few BaD aPpLeS"!
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AldousIsDead 11/15/23 2:21:36 PM #16: |
PissedOffMonk posted...
Why do they only name right wing groups? Are there no left wing hate groups or is it okay to join those while on the force?Cannot tell if serious or not. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 11/15/23 2:22:51 PM #17: |
Feels like a first amendment lawsuit waiting to happen tbh
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superbot400 11/15/23 2:24:08 PM #18: |
What the **** --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 11/15/23 2:24:52 PM #19: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
Feels like a first amendment lawsuit waiting to happen tbh First amendment doesn't protect you from being fired for being a bigot --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 11/15/23 2:25:19 PM #21: |
PissedOffMonk posted... Why do they only name right wing groups? Are there no left wing hate groups or is it okay to join those while on the force? lmao whose alt? darkprince in shambles at this news. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 11/15/23 2:27:05 PM #23: |
New policy
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Umbreon 11/15/23 2:28:32 PM #25: |
Murphiroth posted...
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UnholyMudcrab 11/15/23 2:29:04 PM #26: |
They've already joined a hate group by being part of the Chicago PD.
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brestugo 11/15/23 2:30:43 PM #27: |
PissedOffMonk posted...
Why do they only name right wing groups? Are there no left wing hate groups or is it okay to join those while on the force? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/dfc82eff.jpg --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 11/15/23 2:31:32 PM #28: |
MC_BatCommander posted...
First amendment doesn't protect you from being fired for being a bigotjust feels super vague, especially for a government position. what does it mean to join a group? Who is determining when the language of the group becomes hate? I dont see how this can be enforced at all --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hmnut7 11/15/23 2:34:31 PM #29: |
The Chicago Police department was founded in 1835. So for almost 200 years, even after the Civil War, Civil Rights and a Black President (from Chicago)... it was just this week they said "you know, maybe our officers shouldn't join hate groups"
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ItsNotA2Mer 11/15/23 2:34:46 PM #30: |
PissedOffMonk posted...
Why do they only name right wing groups? Are there no left wing hate groups Is this going to be another one of those times where I feel completely stupid for not knowing if something is sarcasm without the /s? I just can't tell any more. --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 11/15/23 2:35:25 PM #31: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
just feels super vague, especially for a government position. There is a wealth of information on hate groups in the US, and members are usually outed by attending public events or on social media. Also some hate groups just have member rosters. There is a non profit org dedicated to documenting hate groups https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designated_by_the_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_as_hate_groups --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 11/15/23 2:39:51 PM #32: |
If it doesn't come with firing, loss of allowances and benefits, fines, and jail time for violation of the policy, it means nothing
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hmnut7 11/15/23 2:43:31 PM #34: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
just feels super vague, especially for a government position.The question of when "a group" should officially classified as "hate group" can be debated. But cities, states and federal organizations largely in conjunction with the southern poverty law center (the primary experts on hate groups) have very detailed listing of "existing" hate groups. So if a police officer joins a bowling team and they sit around telling jokes about how mexicans don't bowl well and suck at math is that a hate group? Probably not. If however a Police Officer joins "the Proud Boys" a recognized hate group from Illinois or "We are Change" a recognized hate group in Chicago, it's not a real debate. --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" (pb) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 11/15/23 2:43:54 PM #35: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
just feels super vague, especially for a government position. Association, affiliation and membership can be established by texts, emails, documents, phone calls, paraphernalia (including tattoos) and other ways, including cell phone GPS data. Law enforcement does this all the time with gangs and the mafia. If the FBI & DHS consider a group a hate group, the other levels of government do too, for purposes of prosecution and sentence enhancement. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 11/15/23 2:45:14 PM #36: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
just feels super vague, especially for a government position.Most hate groups are on law enforcement's radar though. So like an officer being part the Proud Boys, that would be a no go now for Chicago PD. This is just an extension of what was announced in October: https://news.wttw.com/2023/10/24/top-cop-vows-rid-chicago-police-department-officers-tied-proud-boys-oath-keepers --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmilyTheCEman 11/15/23 2:47:39 PM #37: |
PissedOffMonk posted...
Why do they only name right wing groups? Are there no left wing hate groups or is it okay to join those while on the force? Dont left wing hate groups usually hate just shitty people based on their beliefs and actions? --- You, take a bump. Flatback. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 11/15/23 2:49:41 PM #38: |
UnholyMudcrab posted... They've already joined a hate group by being part of the Chicago PD. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deanshow 11/15/23 2:51:10 PM #40: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The fact that this needs to be a thing --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToteAll 11/15/23 2:51:58 PM #41: |
PissedOffMonk posted... Why do they only name right wing groups? Are there no left wing hate groups or is it okay to join those while on the force? There's definetly left leaning hate groups, but the radical left is nearly non existant in the US. Well, the left entirely. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 11/15/23 2:54:51 PM #42: |
Radical right wing hate group: "we need to arm up and protect our nation from minorities"
Radical left wing hate group: "We need to arm up and protect ourselves from radical right wing hate groups." Chuds: "Both just want the same thing. How can you even tell which is which?" --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hmnut7 11/15/23 4:31:22 PM #43: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Radical right wing hate group: "we need to arm up and protect our nation from minorities"https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7928d1c8.jpg --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" (pb) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToteAll 11/15/23 7:24:01 PM #44: |
A_Good_Boy posted... Radical left wing hate group: "We need to arm up and protect ourselves from radical right wing hate groups." That wouldn't be a radical left wing hate group, no. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 11/15/23 7:33:15 PM #45: |
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DnDer 11/15/23 7:43:28 PM #46: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
Feels like a first amendment lawsuit waiting to happen tbh It's my understanding there are rules at the federal level that prevent federal employees from having certain kinds of speech or organizational ties that would normally be considered a constraint on their free speech, if they were any other citizens. But even a counter monkey at the USPS is a "government actor," and that puts them in a position where they're not allowed to have those associations or that speech because it could look like the government was endorsing it. I would guess states have (or should have) a similar set of restrictions. Someone who's worked at the state level would need to correct or confirm me on this, though. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forty_Niners 11/15/23 8:02:26 PM #47: |
Republicans are incensed.
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MTRodaba2468 11/15/23 8:06:19 PM #48: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The fact that this needs to be a thingThis. --- "You need a hobby. I suggest sticking forks in your eyes."-DJosef https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093694753981 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raiden2909 11/15/23 8:07:04 PM #49: |
Can... They expand this nation wide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsNotA2Mer 11/15/23 8:34:39 PM #50: |
Forty_Niners posted...
Republicans are incensed. Only woke hippies use incense, obviously. /s --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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