Current Events > Alabama prison allowed an inmate to be beaten and sexually assaulted for days.

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https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-father-dies-alleged-beating-090042503.html

Daniel Terry Williams, 22, was serving a one-year sentence for assault and theft charges as part of a plea agreement, and he was set to be released on Nov. 9 the same day he died, according to Jefferson County court records and his family. He had only been at Staton for about two weeks following a transfer to the Elmore, Alabama, correctional facility, when he was allegedly beaten and sexually assaulted.

The warden also allegedly told Bostic that Williams had been hospitalized due to a drug overdose on Oct. 22, she said.

Bostic said she and Terry initially thought their son had "gotten into something bad" at the prison after Bostic's call with the warden, but when they arrived at the hospital where the 22-year-old was receiving treatment, they were shocked at what they discovered.

"He was black and blue from head to toe. He had restraint marks on his wrists. He had indents, almost, in his head from being beaten," Bostic recalled. "So, my husband, Terry, called the warden and said, 'Why the helldid you tell me my son died of an overdose when it was obviously an assault?' And the warden said it's under investigation, and that's all we've heard from them since."

The Justice Department sued Alabama over the condition of its prisons in 2020 after a federal investigation revealed that "Alabama violated and is continuing to violate the Constitution because its prisons are riddled with prisoner-on-prisoner and guard-on-prisoner violence."

I know "think of the criminals" isn't an easy sale to voters in this country, but something's got to be done about the state of our prisons (particularly in problematic states like Alabama).

They need to shut down that entire prison. And arrest many of the employees

Zikten posted...

They need to shut down that entire prison. And arrest many of the employees

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For profit prison is barbaric.

People needs to understand a lot of prison inmates are there for relatively small crimes and are still human beings, but people gets mad when I say that

Cemith posted...

For profit prison is barbaric.

It's not a for profit prison. It's just a standard, government run prison.

Antifar posted...

It's not a for profit prison. It's just a standard, government run prison.

Oh! That's pretty much worse!

People wanna talk about justice but you will never have that if you don't clean up the prisons.

A lot of people's attitude to prison violence varies between indifference and seeing it as a welcome addition to a custodial sentence.

Cemith posted...

For profit prison is barbaric.

All prisons are bad. All prisons have some stupid capitalist exploitation in it from commissaries to pay phones. For profit prisons are worse but generally not that much worse then non-profit prisons.

Seeing as how Guantanamo Bay detention camp still hasn't been shutdown, I expect it to take a while.

Prisons were not created for justice and they damn sure weren't created for rehabilitation.

It's all about population control

Nothing will be done. And this will happen many more times.....

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

It's all about population control

It's all about profit.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

It's all about profit.

To some extent, yes.

But I'd argue that most of it has to do with keeping whoever the country deems as "undesirable" out of society.

Having a place for the truly evil to torture and murder any they desire is a stain on modern society.

ai123 posted...

A lot of people's attitude to prison violence varies between indifference and seeing it as a welcome addition to a custodial sentence.

I think it depends on what crimes was committed. There seems to be a different in reaction to a child molester or rapist getting beaten up or raped in jail. And that happening to someone that robbed a bank for example.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

To some extent, yes.

But I'd argue that most of it has to do with keeping whoever the country deems as "undesirable" out of society.

This. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many drug addicts in prison. Drug addicts whom are often addicted to drugs because of shitty behavior of our society (CIA letting drug dealers sell Crack, Drug companies pushing opioids)

BlueTigerLion posted...

I think it depends on what crimes was committed. There seems to be a different in reaction to a child molester or rapist getting beaten up or raped in jail. And that happening to someone that robbed a bank for example.

A lot of people don't differentiate. A child molester and someone with a few ounces of pot are both "criminals" and the Tough On Crime crowd doesn't usually dig past that. "Criminals" deserve what they get, so the beatings and rapes have become an acceptable and even expected aspect of "justice".

BlueTigerLion posted...

I think it depends on what crimes was committed. There seems to be a different in reaction to a child molester or rapist getting beaten up or raped in jail. And that happening to someone that robbed a bank for example.

I've seen some pretty awful things wished on people who committed non violent property crime.

Nevertheless, (and it feels weird to have to say this) no one should be raped and beaten in prison. Advocating that would just be endorsing the violent sadism of the perpetrators. Which is what people are supposed to be opposed to.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

To some extent, yes.

But I'd argue that most of it has to do with keeping whoever the country deems as "undesirable" out of society.

Doesn't countries that focus more on rehabilitation have a drastically lower amout of recidivism?

darkace77450 posted...

A lot of people don't differentiate. A child molester and someone with a few ounces of pot are both "criminals" and the Tough On Crime crowd doesn't usually dig past that. "Criminals" deserve what they get, so the beatings and rapes have become an acceptable and even expected aspect of "justice".

A lot of people in America (ESPECIALLY conservatives) have a black-and-white perspective on criminals. You're either a criminal or you're not. No room for nuance or severity.

epik_fail1 posted...

Doesn't countries that focus more on rehabilitation have a drastically lower amout of recidivism?

Correct. Because the vast majority of "criminals" aren't going out and committing crimes just for shits and giggles. They're doing so because they don't have access to the resources they need and the prison system doesn't even attempt to address this.

Our country just has a really bad habit of demonizing anybody we're afraid of.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

A lot of people in America (ESPECIALLY conservatives) have a black-and-white perspective on criminals. You're either a criminal or you're not. No room for nuance or severity.

Well, until they get busted for shit anyway. Then our justice system is unfair, and too severe.

ai123 posted...

I've seen some pretty awful things wished on people who committed non violent property crime.

Nevertheless, (and it feels weird to have to say this) no one should be raped and beaten in prison. Advocating that would just be endorsing the violent sadism of the perpetrators. Which is what people are supposed to be opposed to.

I should stress I don't think anyone should be raped or beaten in jail either. Just saying that certain crimes have people saying they hope it happens to those in jail. For example when Jared from Subway news came out those type of comments were happening toward him.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

Well, until they get busted for shit anyway. Then our justice system is unfair, and too severe.

Very true

BlueTigerLion posted...

I should stress I don't think anyone should be raped or beaten in jail either.

I didn't mean to imply that, but I should have been more clear. Apologies.

Just saying that certain crimes have people saying they hope it happens to those in jail. For example when Jared from Subway news came out those type of comments were happening toward him.

And if you don't join in with those comments you get accused of 'supporting' those crimes.

Fucking terrible

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

All prisons are bad. All prisons have some stupid capitalist exploitation in it from commissaries to pay phones. For profit prisons are worse but generally not that much worse then non-profit prisons.

Not according to the government statistics: https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf

According to them it is dramatically worse.

The criminal justice system is pretty broken as a whole. Shitty cops, shitty judges, shitty corrections officers. I don't think it'll ever change because only a small portion of society gets protection and actual justice.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

Well, until they get busted for shit anyway. Then our justice system is unfair, and too severe.

Yep. Their tough on crime mantra quickly fades when Roger Stone is being hauled away in cuffs, the Q Shaman is being denied vegan food, or Ashli Babbitt gets shot trying to accost our elected representatives. I've heard Trump supporters I know IRL tell me those arrested for January 6 are being tortured in prison. Decades of mistreatment of prisoners meant nothing to them until it was their own on the wrong end.

CE is often blood thirsty as fuck with crime but at least there's reasonable people ITT.

The punishment for crime is being removed from society, and having restrictions on freedoms, and that's it. There should not be any level of violence in prison. Maybe giving them PS3s like Norway would help.

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Alabama taxpayers are going to foot the bill for the lawsuit.

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tbh it doesn't even matter if they were murderers and rapists. It's not the inmates' place to dole out "justice." It's super fucked up. They're there for their crimes and serving their sentence. So many people on the left are just as fucking bad as people on the right about this shit.

darkace77450 posted...

and he was set to be released on Nov. 9 the same day he died,

All of what you posted in the OP is horrendous, however this part hit the hardest. Dying on the same day he would have been freed from that hellhole. Turn the prison staff into residents. Fuck these monsters.

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Not likely.

What happens when people who joke about prison rape get into authority

epik_fail1 posted...

People needs to understand a lot of prison inmates are there for relatively small crimes and are still human beings, but people gets mad when I say that

Do they really need to understand that? Couldn't we just start with the idea that this shouldn't be happening to anyone?