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pegusus123456
11/09/23 7:02:00 AM
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I was spoiled that there was a Tails version, but I never saw anyone mention that it's half a movie lol. I saw a ton of praise for it, never any criticism that it ends with nothing resolved.

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Zikten
11/09/23 7:03:32 AM
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People get so upset at the cliffhanger but if it was all just one movie, the story would be too rushed. They originally were going to make just 1 sequel. Across and Beyond was going to all be 1 crammed film. And it would have sucked ass. I'm glad they changed it to 2 movies. It will be worth it when Beyond finally comes out
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Ricemills
11/09/23 7:04:59 AM
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There's definitely some complains, but it doesn't matter anyway.
Infinity War did the same so it mitigated them.

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cjsdowg
11/09/23 7:05:05 AM
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Zikten posted...
People get so upset at the cliffhanger but if it was all just one movie, the story would be too rushed. They originally were going to make just 1 sequel. Across and Beyond was going to all be 1 crammed film. And it would have sucked ass. I'm glad they changed it to 2 movies. It will be worth it when Beyond finally comes out

If they called this one a part 1 I think people would have felt better about it. For many it left them just like saying what ... we don't get to see the end of this thing .

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pegusus123456
11/09/23 7:07:01 AM
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Ricemills posted...
Infinity War did the same so it mitigated them.
I'd disagree there. Infinity War had a plot that it resolved. It ended in a loss (or a win if you view Thanos as the protagonist), but it wrapped up everything that happened.

I'm not super mad about this movie ending on such a cliffhanger, but it resolves nothing.

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Ricemills
11/09/23 7:07:50 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
If they called this one a part 1 I think people would have felt better about it. For many it left them just like saying what ... we don't get to see the end of this thing .

Calling it part 1 would dampen the hype.
Same reason Infinity war dropped the part 1 from the title and renamed part 2 to Endgame.
They're already announced it will be a trilogy anyway when they announced spider verse 2.

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Dark-Summoner
11/09/23 7:09:49 AM
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Zikten posted...
People get so upset at the cliffhanger but if it was all just one movie, the story would be too rushed. They originally were going to make just 1 sequel. Across and Beyond was going to all be 1 crammed film. And it would have sucked ass. I'm glad they changed it to 2 movies. It will be worth it when Beyond finally comes out

Bc nothing happened in the movie that couldn't have been shortened.

Then you end where you did...so what, you can have the breakout scene be the opening of the next movie?

It felt like a TV show stapled together into a movie.

Not to mention none of it makes any sense and is stupid as hell if you think about it for 2 seconds...but...comic book movie for kids.
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Zikten
11/09/23 7:10:32 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
If they called this one a part 1 I think people would have felt better about it. For many it left them just like saying what ... we don't get to see the end of this thing .
I mean I understand that I guess. But it was known it was 2 parts. If you followed the news of the production before it came out, they didn't hide it was going to be a Part 1. But I guess people who didn't follow that news, wouldn't have expected it
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Zikten
11/09/23 7:13:06 AM
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Dark-Summoner posted...
Bc nothing happened in the movie that couldn't have been shortened.

Then you end where you did...so what, you can have the breakout scene be the opening of the next movie?

It felt like a TV show stapled together into a movie.

Not to mention none of it makes any sense and is stupid as hell if you think about it for 2 seconds...but...comic book movie for kids.
Its built like a comic. Comics have arcs and they do chapters in each issue. Unless it's a One-shot, comic stories almost always end on cliffhangers multiple times before the arc wraps out. You wait a month for each issue to come out and continue the story.

Think of it like that, and it makes more sense
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R1masher
11/09/23 7:14:00 AM
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Same, I watched it a couple of days ago and was like wtf whens part 2?

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Zikten
11/09/23 7:16:04 AM
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R1masher posted...
Same, I watched it a couple of days ago and was like wtf whens part 2?
It was going to come out this spring. But the strike pushed it back indefinitely. It will probably not be out now til at least 2025. Probably April, may or June of that year I bet
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St0rmFury
11/09/23 7:25:20 AM
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I went in blind and thought the cliffhanger was very clever writing. Sending Miles back to the spider's universe instead of his own universe is genius.

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pegusus123456
11/09/23 7:27:05 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
I went in blind and thought the cliffhanger was very clever writing. Sending Miles back to the spider's universe instead of his own universe is genius.
I did catch that the machine said 42 (or 52? I forget now), so I was wondering.

But then they jebaited me with the drama and the confession, so I was still surprised lol

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Zikten
11/09/23 7:29:13 AM
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I admit I didn't realize what was happening til his mom asked who is Spider-Man

That was when it clicked for me

But I've seen at least one youtube reactor who predicted it before that moment
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pegusus123456
11/09/23 7:29:56 AM
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Zikten posted...
I admit I didn't realize what was happening til his mom asked who is Spider-Man

That was it clicked for me
I admit to not even getting it then <_<

I just thought it was a little more of the joke about her not being "hip with the kids." In hindsight, that is dumb.

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cjsdowg
11/09/23 7:30:57 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I did catch that the machine said 42 (or 52? I forget now), so I was wondering.

But then they jebaited me with the drama and the confession, so I was still surprised lol

42 I remember because that is Jackie Robinson Number.

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St0rmFury
11/09/23 8:07:25 AM
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Also Spider-punk was awesome.

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Zikten
11/09/23 8:14:08 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Also Spider-punk was awesome.
He deserves his own movie. Also Spider-Man India
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KogaSteelfang
11/09/23 8:15:08 AM
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I knew before hand that it wouldn't tie up the story and that there'd be another one after this. But somewhere along the way I forgot and was taken off guard for a few seconds when it just ended. Then I was like "Oh, right, I knew that." lol
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R1masher
11/09/23 8:15:11 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Also Spider-punk was awesome.

Ben Riley was a perfect parody of himself

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Ivynn
11/09/23 8:16:45 AM
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It was pretty long for an animated movie (2 hours!) I imagine if they tried to squeeze in everything from Across and Beyond into one movie, it would feel insanely rushed.

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Dark-Summoner
11/09/23 8:18:42 AM
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Zikten posted...
Its built like a comic. Comics have arcs and they do chapters in each issue. Unless it's a One-shot, comic stories almost always end on cliffhangers multiple times before the arc wraps out. You wait a month for each issue to come out and continue the story.

Think of it like that, and it makes more sense

I'm not reading a comic. You can have homages to that (The scene transitions which I enjoyed) but at the same time you're making a movie. You need to have some level of resolution.

Also, the "Sent to the wrong universe" is dumb.

We see a Rhino (No Spider DNA) get sent to their correct universe. So why does Miles (yes he was bit by universe 42 spider.) Get sent to 42? All of the rest of him is from his universe. He should still be "glitching" in 42 unless we just handwave it with "LOL magic spider".

They took 2 different storylines and split it into 2 movies but have them running concurrently which doesn't make any sense. One movie should have been Hole/setting up the Spider Society, then have the last movie be Spider Society fallout/Universe 42.

(Hole said "I'm gonna go kill your dad" then proceeds to do nothing while we're dicking around with the spidersociety/Universe 42.)
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pegusus123456
11/09/23 8:21:04 AM
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Dark-Summoner posted...
Also, the "Sent to the wrong universe" is dumb.

We see a Rhino (No Spider DNA) get sent to their correct universe. So why does Miles (yes he was bit by universe 42 spider.) Get sent to 42? All of the rest of him is from his universe. He should still be "glitching" in 42 unless we just handwave it with "LOL magic spider".
One of them was sent by avatar-Spider-Woman that knew what she was doing, the other was sent by Miles tapping keys as fast as he could while trying not to get caught.

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Westernwolf4
11/09/23 8:28:30 AM
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I know a few people who really hated that it ended on a cliffhanger, including my wife.

I would have preferred a resolution too, but I was not mad about it. As soon as both movies were announced at once, I figured something like this was going to happen.

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Dalthine
11/09/23 8:34:23 AM
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I didn't follow any of the news going in. In fact I didn't even know a new Spider Verse movie was coming out until I saw it in theaters. I was definitely bummed by the cliffhanger. I don't think the movie as it was needed to be cut down or anything, but the place they cut it also felt particularly bad.

I'm not explicitly mad or anything, but as an uninformed pleb it was a letdown. Still looking forward to the next movie, but disappointed that I've got to wait so long for it.
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Zikten
11/09/23 8:48:02 AM
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Dark-Summoner posted...
then have the last movie be Spider Society fallout/Universe 42.
I suspect Beyond won't all just be about Universe 42. Supposedly something is threatening the entire multiverse. Miles will probably escape universe 42 and go somewhere else later in the movie. I kinda have this theory that the climax will be in some kind of place that's like the "heart of the multiverse ". Where the heroes will have to fight someone, maybe a super powered up Hole, and fix some "injury" to the multiverse.

What I wish could happen if Stan Lee was still alive, is Miles would encounter some entity who is sitting at a desk writing amd drawing on papers. He would look like an old man. And call himself Stan. They would never outright say it, but there would be hints that he is like the source of all creation

The ultimate Stan Lee cameo. But unless they recorded lines years in advance, or they use AI to fake it, it can't be done
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ViewtifulGrave
11/09/23 8:50:03 AM
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Ricemills posted...
Calling it part 1 would dampen the hype.
Same reason Infinity war dropped the part 1 from the title and renamed part 2 to Endgame.
They're already announced it will be a trilogy anyway when they announced spider verse 2.
They did originally.

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mach25687
11/09/23 8:50:48 AM
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The ending was amazing and got me hyped for the sequel. Something that is rare for me now.

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Prismsblade
11/09/23 8:56:50 AM
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Movie was kind of mid in my opinion. Hopefully they go into more details of the plot and what exactly is so special about Peter that his actions events and mere existence put the very multiverse at stack.

Actually Im not even sure why this council of spiders even exist when theyve been the cause of more tragedies in the multiverse then fixs.

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dummy420
11/09/23 9:17:45 AM
#30:


I liked the movie but yeah the cliffhanger brought it down for me. I like a cliffhanger more like when they reach a natural resting point or resolution and you know there's going to be more. Something like infinity war where Thanos reached his goal setting up the next movie to pick up the pieces. I don't like it as much when it's left with a stay tuned. For me saying it was part 1 would have been better than not knowing going in.

But oh well my gripes will be over when the next one comes out anyway.


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pegusus123456
11/09/23 9:25:32 AM
#31:


Prismsblade posted...
Movie was kind of mid in my opinion. Hopefully they go into more details of the plot and what exactly is so special about Peter that his actions events and mere existence put the very multiverse at stack.

Actually Im not even sure why this council of spiders even exist when theyve been the cause of more tragedies in the multiverse then fixs.
I'm pretty sure it's not Peter specifically. Like one of the episodes of the MCU's What If is about Dr. Strange trying to stop his girlfriend from dying, but every attempt ends in failure. When he finally does, his reality starts falling apart around him. They use their own phrase, but it's functionally identical to a canon event. Obviously that's a different continuity, cameos and references aside, but I think that's the idea of what they're going with.

So I think disrupting any person's canon event would fuck things up, the Spider-Men are just prone to disruption thanks to Kingpin and Miles + whatever Miguel did in his backstory.

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Prismsblade
11/09/23 10:02:52 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I'm pretty sure it's not Peter specifically. Like one of the episodes of the MCU's What If is about Dr. Strange trying to stop his girlfriend from dying, but every attempt ends in failure. When he finally does, his reality starts falling apart around him. They use their own phrase, but it's functionally identical to a canon event. Obviously that's a different continuity, cameos and references aside, but I think that's the idea of what they're going with.

The context of it all in that episode made sense. Mostly due to how important it was to strange and being the very catalyst to him becoming the sorcerer supreme.

But thats not really the case for Peter. Especially when said events are not Only inconsequential in the grand scheme of things both for the world or even peter himself but unnecessary even. Maybe for uncle Ben not his friend/love interest father dying.

Hell the entire premise seems counter intuitive as Peter is supposed to allow somebody to die for his development? Despite being able to save them. But also said act would go entirely against what he was meant to learn from the death in the place. So its just a weirdly contrived paradox overall.

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