Board 8 > Most Evil Fictional Character: Cioccolata vs. Calvin Candie

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RySenkari
11/08/23 7:31:58 AM
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Welcome to the 2023 edition of Most Evil Fictional Character, a single-elimination tournament to determine the most evil fictional character of all time!

Here's the bracket:

https://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=477621&tclass=

And here's the discussion topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80568652

And here are the rules:

-First and foremost, YOU MUST BOLD YOUR VOTE FOR IT TO COUNT. The reason for this is that these topics encourage a lot of discussion and debate, and it helps me to distinguish a vote from simple discussion if all votes are bolded. So, I state again, ALL VOTES MUST BE BOLDED FOR THEM TO COUNT. I reserve the right to be lenient in early topics if people just aren't getting it, but for the most part, IF YOUR VOTE ISN'T BOLDED, IT WON'T COUNT.

-You must vote for which of the two characters you honestly believe to be the more evil of the two. You can determine this via any method you like, use your own morals and judgement, read all the arguments made to determine your choice, or however you choose to make your pick, but you must only vote for the one you truly believe is the most evil. This isn't a death battle, or a popularity contest. You're voting ONLY for the most evil character out of the two choices presented.

-While on that subject, remember that because this isn't a death battle or a fighting tournament, do your absolute best to consider the two characters as if their power levels were equal (either the weaker character brought up to the level of the strongest, or vice versa, or both if you want to consider both possibilities). Therefore, just because, for example, one of the characters blew up a planet and the other one merely kicked a puppy, doesn't necessarily mean the planet killer is more evil than the puppy kicker. Consider the characters as if they have the exact same capabilities and what they might do in that scenario.

-You can make any arguments, debates, etc. you want in this topic. Discussion is STRONGLY encouraged, a fun debate about which of the two characters is most evil is exactly what these topics are for. Just don't make it personal, no insults or flaming, keep things civil even if you disagree. Also, no vote rallying, if you want to encourage people to vote for your character you need to at least make some semblance of an argument as to why, even if it's just "Character X did (really dastardly thing), I can't believe no one's voting for them!"

-Voting will continue for exactly 24 hours after the post is made. If there's a tie, there will be a new 24 hour topic. This will continue indefinitely until a winner is determined.

-YOU MUST BOLD YOUR VOTE FOR IT TO COUNT.

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The following write-ups will contain untagged SPOILERS for Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Django Unchained.

CIOCCOLATA

Cioccolata is an antagonist from the anime and manga Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, and the Playstation 2 game GioGio's Bizarre Adventure.

According to Diavolo, Cioccolata was a former surgeon dismissed from his hospital for a medical accident two years before the start of Vento Aureo. There are four cases in which Cioccolata misdiagnosed people to perform surgery on them.Two years before the events of Vento Aureo, Cioccolata killed one of his patients. He was caught and sacked, but his deliberate murder was nonetheless mistaken as an accident. The anime version shows that the patient has had his stomach cut open and his innards played with by Cioccolata. He would sometimes limit their anesthetics so the patients would regain consciousness mid-operation, allowing him to delight in the patient's suffering and death. Cioccolata is a skilled, manipulative sadist. Cioccolata is extremely cruel, aside from killing patients and emotionally abusing elders into committing suicide. The addition of his stand, Green Day, highlights his callous nature--infecting anybody with its remorseless, flesh-eating mold. Even Diavolo is reluctant to dispatch him to get rid of Bucciarati's group and is considered a monster by members of Passione. Cioccolata is driven by his morbid curiosity, insisting on recording every death he witnesses and enjoying every single moment, as he claims these are for his own personal progress as a surgeon. His sadism gives him enough ruthlessness to even endanger Giorno and Mista. Cioccolata is also prone to gloating, presenting his philosophy of one's own progress at the first opportunity and expressing his enjoyment at others' suffering loudly.

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CALVIN CANDIE

Calvin Candie is the primary antagonist of Django Unchained.

Calvin Candie is a Mississippi slave owner who owns a large plantation known as Candieland. Candie is a detestable individual who views his slaves harshly as his property and participates in blood sports, forcing male slaves to fight to the death for money. His female slaves are often forced into prostitution. He sees people of color as beneath him and little more than property. The depths of his depravity are seen when he gives Django and Dr. Schultz a lecture on his belief that people of color are biologically inferior using pseudoscience, using a deceased slave's skull as evidence. After King Schultz and Django attempted to trick him into selling Broomhilda (using the prospect of purchasing a more expensive slave along with her to win an audience with him), Candie returned to the dining room and gradually reveals Schultz's and Django's deception to them, subsequently losing his calm demeanor and eventually snaps, revealing his sick and devious nature by threatening to beat Broomhilda to death with a hammer if Dr. Schultz does not pay $12,000 for her. After signing Broomhilda over, Candie then tries to convince Schultz to shake his hand to seal their transaction, otherwise he will have Broomhilda shot on sight. Calvin is also extremely cold-hearted; sadistic, and cruel, taking incredible delight in watching two black men viciously fight right in front of him, and cheering when one gouges out the other's eyes, before first ordering and then demanding the victorious slave to finish off the defeated challenger with a hammer. He also casually orders one of his slaves to be devoured alive by dogs, all while looking Django in the eye, with a look of uncaring contempt.

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LightningStrikes
11/08/23 7:44:02 AM
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Cioccolata

He even has a slave!

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Pirateking2000
11/08/23 8:07:02 AM
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Cioccolata

Pretty straightforward


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Johnbobb
11/08/23 10:08:58 AM
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Cioccolota

I don't think Cioccolota does anything that Candie wouldn't do, but I don't know that he has the imagination to think to do it

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hombad46
11/08/23 10:22:18 AM
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Cioccolata

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Lopen
11/08/23 10:24:23 AM
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Johnbobb posted...
Cioccolota

I don't think Cioccolota does anything that Candie wouldn't do, but I don't know that he has the imagination to think to do it

Cioccolota

I don't think he does anything Calvin wouldn't do if he felt any sort of reason to.

Calvin's weakness is illustrated here in that he's a bit too much "evil businessman" to be competitive with the higher tiers.

It's not so much a matter of imagination as utility. Calvin will be as cruel as he can be but it's always tied to some sort of dominance play or making money through exploitation-- his cruelty always has a self serving point in his mind.

I just don't think he would find it worth his time to want to do a lot of stuff this other character is said to do.

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trdl23
11/08/23 10:52:33 AM
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Fully agree with Lopen's analysis. You had a better run than I expected, Candie, you fucker.

Cioccolata

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Xeybozn
11/08/23 11:07:14 AM
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Cioccolota

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PrinceKaro
11/08/23 11:33:39 AM
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Cioccolata

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Suprak_the_Stud
11/08/23 11:48:14 AM
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Cioccolota

First easy one in a while!

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GavsEvans123
11/08/23 12:02:32 PM
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Cioccolata

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skulltrumpets
11/08/23 1:54:08 PM
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Cioccolata
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Snake5555555555
11/08/23 1:55:02 PM
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Cioccolota

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KamikazePotato
11/08/23 6:06:16 PM
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Cioccolata

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Mythiot
11/08/23 11:26:32 PM
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Calvin Candie
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Xiahou_Shake
11/08/23 11:29:13 PM
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Cioccolata quite easily

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Dancedreamer
11/08/23 11:39:01 PM
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Cioccolata

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Grimmer
11/08/23 11:50:20 PM
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cioccolata

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