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htaeD
11/08/23 2:44:32 PM
#151:


BlueCrystalTear posted...

Please explain why pointing this out to scum benefits town in any shape or form. I don't like this post at all.


Personally I dont know if we should worry about people rolefishing if a mass claim is coming

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BlueCrystalTear
11/08/23 2:44:46 PM
#152:


Corrik7 posted...
3. If I am scum with Ashe and my teammate Ashe was roleblocked, I would have to know Town roleblocked him. Thus, Town would claim the roleblock on Ashe and then want to know how the fuck I know that he was.

That makes literally zero sense BCT. Nor has anyone claimed responsibility for the roleblock otherwise. So it's revisionist.
Right, I guess I didn't think that through, my bad.

And so it's #1, got it. I can feel good about you being town, Corrik. Can you feel good about me being town?

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Corrik7
11/08/23 2:48:44 PM
#153:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Right, I guess I didn't think that through, my bad.

And so it's #1, got it. I can feel good about you being town, Corrik. Can you feel good about me being town?
I haven't really said you were scum but somebody has to be. It's not looking like it's Ashe anymore either. This makes me wonder if I was wrong to so blindly buy in like Ben did on sbell and igcd. I need to probably go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. Nobody is free of suspicion. Something isn't adding up here.

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BlueCrystalTear
11/08/23 2:53:41 PM
#154:


htaeD posted...
Personally I dont know if we should worry about people rolefishing if a mass claim is coming
Okay then. I'll just get to the point.

I've already claimed, but in detail...
Odd nights I am Felix Richter, SOLO QUEUE "Quiet Eye Candy" (Vanilla Ninja)
Even nights I am Caleb Quinn, SOLO QUEUE "Inventor Marksman" (Roleblocker)

##vote: Wall

Let's kill the claimed scum, shall we?

And so we're clear: Yes, I blocked Dumey N2 (hence why I knew he took no action and why I said he would've known about it), and subsequently used that erroneous read of mine to confirm him town. (Keep in mind I replaced in)

Corrik7 posted...
It's not looking like it's Ashe anymore either.
In what way? He still lied more times than I'd think a town-aligned player would, and there hasn't been a huge push to lynch him, which makes me think scum either believes he's expendable... or there are only four of them.

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Corrik7
11/08/23 2:54:59 PM
#155:


Actually, I wanna strike that somewhat. Ashe could still be scum. Nothing clears him in totality. But, it does seem a bit unlikely that he had the forethought to multiple days in advance say he was ninja and doesn't show up anywhere and then get third hand corroborated as not showing up on someone who was targeted by scum days later. This requires Ashe not being Ninja. Claiming ninja day 1 and opening himself up as a liar for literally no reason.

Edumey thinking he had Ashe I think kinda solidifies him as town as I don't think he would sell out as scum here. And what a backfire fail that woulda been too.

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Corrik7
11/08/23 2:56:00 PM
#156:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Okay then. I'll just get to the point.

I've already claimed, but in detail...
Odd nights I am Felix Richter, SOLO QUEUE "Quiet Eye Candy" (Vanilla Ninja)
Even nights I am Caleb Quinn, SOLO QUEUE "Inventor Marksman" (Roleblocker)

##vote: Wall

Let's kill the claimed scum, shall we?

And so we're clear: Yes, I blocked Dumey N2 (hence why I knew he took no action and why I said he would've known about it), and subsequently used that erroneous read of mine to confirm him town. (Keep in mind I replaced in)

In what way? He still lied more times than I'd think a town-aligned player would, and there hasn't been a huge push to lynch him, which makes me think scum either believes he's expendable... or there are only four of them.
Whoa...

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htaeD
11/08/23 2:58:37 PM
#157:


Now I wish you could have sametimed that with Wallz somehow, but its already pretty damning.

Thats a clearer parallel to Corriks claim as well

Not the claim I expected tho. I just assumed you'd tracked him or something.

Regardless, wallz should full claim

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EDumey
11/08/23 3:00:39 PM
#158:


That's three claimed roleblockers then, yeah? I forgot about BCT when Wallz was mentioning his roleblock trait earlier.

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Obellisk
11/08/23 3:02:22 PM
#159:


are we finally lynching wallz?

I been trying that since day 1

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Corrik7
11/08/23 3:03:17 PM
#160:


Obellisk posted...
are we finally lynching wallz?

I been trying that since day 1
I'll give him a chance to claim first.

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wallmasterz
11/08/23 3:20:12 PM
#161:


Full claiming, especially with my active ability odd-numbered night trait, is really annoying.

But we are on the verge of losing anyway so theres no reason to fight this and I have not done a good job with my abilities =(

Odd: LISA GARLAND, SOLO QUEUE Well-intentioned Inhuman Cursed

Well-Intentioned - Im doc on odd numbered nights, ya a-holes.

The other traits are passive / just flavor.

Even: LISA SHERWOOD, SOLO QUEUE Mystic Territorial

Territorial - I can pick someone and anyone that tries targeting them is roleblocked.

Mystic is passive / just flavor.

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BlueCrystalTear
11/08/23 3:22:35 PM
#162:


htaeD posted...
Not the claim I expected tho. I just assumed you'd tracked him or something.
I was deliberately vague in hopes I'd get to live to see N4, so I could use the power again, with the hope of hitting scum this time. Scum must've thought I was a tracker who they could "safely save for the next night" but nope! I can potentially roleblock their assassin.

wallmasterz posted...
Full claiming, especially with my active ability odd-numbered night trait, is really annoying.
It's an even day.

Territorial - I can pick someone and anyone that tries targeting them is roleblocked.
So can this coexist with an outright RB? I don't think so.

Well-Intentioned - Im doc on odd numbered nights, ya a-holes.
Who did you target on each N1 and N3, and why wasn't this part of your claim?

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Obellisk
11/08/23 3:22:38 PM
#163:


full claim would have included acti9ns taken.

kill it

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htaeD
11/08/23 3:23:43 PM
#164:


Well that somehow clashes with both Corriks and BCTs claims at the same time now.

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Obellisk
11/08/23 3:23:58 PM
#165:


I think we are just about at Mass claim time. who other than myself hasn't claimed yet?

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htaeD
11/08/23 3:24:53 PM
#166:


Me
Maybe someone else?

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/08/23 3:24:56 PM
#167:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Please explain why pointing this out to scum benefits town in any shape or form. I don't like this post at all.

You seem to be trying to get more information than what Corrik offered I get the questions and the concept of doing so but it did set off a small ping

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wallmasterz
11/08/23 3:25:27 PM
#168:


Im going to self resolve at this point.

n1: saved sultan. I thought he might be killed after his profanity-filled outburst towards crescent because iirc a few people said he was probably town as a result of not getting modkilled. I started questioning sultans alignment later despite the lack of modkill.

I thought about saving Corrik but figured the scum team would likely have folks who played last game and since Corrik was just the n1 kill, I thought they might go a different direction. Plus sultan is a good player so if town he seemed a solid save, I thought hed be doing more than just asking 20 questions after we got past the d1 frustration and he cooled down.

n2: specifically thought to myself Corrik is prob either scum or gonna die soon, I dont remember seeing him live long as town typically.

n3: saved BCT because based on his comments about Dumey he clearly seemed to have some kind of power, tracking i for otherwise. It also felt like the kind of kill that would benefit scum to get rid of the power but was a player who might not be the docs first choice to save them, if town. Which so far I havent had reason to read BCT as scum, although Ive never seen bct roll scum yet prior to this game.

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wallmasterz
11/08/23 3:26:59 PM
#169:


Obellisk posted...
full claim would have included acti9ns taken.

kill it

I was working on it dude. My phone takes forever most of the time now, it literally highlights text without being touched so if that happens and I try typing it overwrites a paragraph with some random letters and Im stuck shaking my phone for 30+ seconds trying to get my post back.

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wallmasterz
11/08/23 3:28:38 PM
#170:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
It's an even day.

Good job, you did it. You knew that 4 is an even number.

I said its annoying to full claim especially given what my role is on odd numbered days. I did not say its an odd numbered day.

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htaeD
11/08/23 3:29:45 PM
#171:


Oh I think Brohan and IGCd havent claimed yet either.

That said I severely doubt BCT and Wallz's roles can exist on the same night.

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wallmasterz
11/08/23 3:29:56 PM
#172:


Yall are impatient as shit. I need to break posts up at times to avoid losing everything I wrote and taking 10 minutes to do something that should take two minutes

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htaeD
11/08/23 3:31:02 PM
#173:


(also I just realized why the host listed almost everyone's second name in the playerlist, it was foreshadowing for the flavor swap!)

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Obellisk
11/08/23 3:32:08 PM
#174:


it's hard enough keeping track of 1 role per player, but 2. with multiple "traits" per role.

just fuxk you Isquen. I mean, come on, homey don't play that.

Death explain why they can't exist on same nights.

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htaeD
11/08/23 3:36:16 PM
#175:


Obellisk posted...
Death explain why they can't exist on same nights.


Well okay technically they can. In the sense that their roles dont mechanically clash I believe.
But to me its almost the same as having 2 doctors on the same night
Less sure about how Wallz power clashes with Corriks claim since Corrik has kept his vague. But he said he was protection. Then again why believe Corrik.

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BlueCrystalTear
11/08/23 3:39:00 PM
#176:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
You seem to be trying to get more information than what Corrik offered I get the questions and the concept of doing so but it did set off a small ping
Shouldn't town fish for info to try to find each other? I don't know what my actions did to set off a ping. The only mistake I acknowledge was reading Dumey as scum, but at least I leveraged RBing him into confirming him town.

What you're saying here is contradicting what you told me before. Try to find townies to partner with. I am pretty convinced Corrik is town at this point in time.

I do think Chang was killed for being onto scum. Perhaps Brohan, and maybe Death too. Is Brohan still even here...?

wallmasterz posted...
Ive never seen bct roll scum yet prior to this game.
Are you threatening me? I can assure you I rolled town yet again.

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wallmasterz
11/08/23 3:41:04 PM
#177:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Are you threatening me? I can assure you I rolled town yet again.

All I said was I have never seen you roll scum before this game. This game is tbd. Its not an accusation

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htaeD
11/08/23 3:42:32 PM
#178:


Wallz' claim does give me another theory that maybe scum killed changmas because they believed he would not be protected? At least of the people who looked decently towny.

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Ashethan
11/08/23 3:56:44 PM
#179:


Hmm...

I'm not totally sold on dumey, but... my role pm does seem to suggest that my scan wouldn't show up on any sort of scan. So I'm not sure he's scum.

Wallz.. why were you suspicious of Corrik being alive on day 4 if you roleblocked anyone targeting him night 2?

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/08/23 4:21:38 PM
#180:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Shouldn't town fish for info to try to find each other? I don't know what my actions did to set off a ping. The only mistake I acknowledge was reading Dumey as scum, but at least I leveraged RBing him into confirming him town.

What you're saying here is contradicting what you told me before. Try to find townies to partner with. I am pretty convinced Corrik is town at this point in time.

I do think Chang was killed for being onto scum. Perhaps Brohan, and maybe Death too. Is Brohan still even here...?

Are you threatening me? I can assure you I rolled town yet again.

Good answer. I think I may have been thrown off by the phrasing a bit.


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TheSultanOfSlam
11/08/23 4:23:17 PM
#181:


wallmasterz posted...
All I said was I have never seen you roll scum before this game. This game is tbd. Its not an accusation

Come to think of it I think since his return to mafia I can say he has only been like scum 2 times?

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/08/23 4:26:17 PM
#182:


Ashe when did you claim Ninja Exactly I want to look for it.

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Ashethan
11/08/23 4:29:15 PM
#183:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Ashe when did you claim Ninja Exactly I want to look for it.

Topic 5 Post #206

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/08/23 4:34:38 PM
#184:


Ashethan posted...

Alright, I'll claim.

Yesterday I was Michael Myers, Solo Queue Quiet Predator. Quiet is the same as Lea's/BCT. Basically a Ninja. But Predator has no action attached to it.

Today I'm Mikaela Reid Solo Queue Mystic Inquisitive. Mystic is basically the same as Quiet, and I'd rather not say what Inquisitive does yet.

Hmm okay
Weird so how'd you move exactly?

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/08/23 4:35:50 PM
#185:


Wait and you were a killer first then a survivor 2nd?

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Ashethan
11/08/23 4:35:51 PM
#186:


Not sure what you're asking.

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Ashethan
11/08/23 4:37:24 PM
#187:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Wait and you were a killer first then a survivor 2nd?

No, that was a dumb gambit on my part. I wanted to see if anyone would claim killer on day 1 or not.

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htaeD
11/08/23 4:37:31 PM
#188:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Wait and you were a killer first then a survivor 2nd?


Thats the part he changed

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Obellisk
11/08/23 4:37:41 PM
#189:


so many ninjas

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Leafeon13N
11/08/23 4:53:35 PM
#190:


If there is a damning bit of evidence here. Randomly claiming a killer, especially a fairly big name licensed one. That is a gambit and a fucking half. Presumably we have what, 14 killer roles out there, maybe 3 wtf's(we had a cat!).

Then you have a scum safelist. Then maybe an indy safelist.

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Ashethan
11/08/23 4:58:20 PM
#191:


Leafeon13N posted...
If there is a damning bit of evidence here. Randomly claiming a killer, especially a fairly big name licensed one. That is a gambit and a fucking half. Presumably we have what, 14 killer roles out there, maybe 3 wtf's(we had a cat!).

What are you talking about?

We all got a killer at the start of day 2, when we swapped roles. I claimed on day 2.

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htaeD
11/08/23 4:58:59 PM
#192:


If Jones the Cat can be in the game, then I am sure we can also have something like a Resident Evil zombie dog somewhere.

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Ashethan
11/08/23 5:00:27 PM
#193:


htaeD posted...
If Jones the Cat can be in the game, then I am sure we can also have something like a Resident Evil zombie dog somewhere.

We better have Maurice.

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Leafeon13N
11/08/23 5:01:13 PM
#194:


Ashethan posted...
What are you talking about?

We all got a killer at the start of day 2, when we swapped roles. I claimed on day 2.
Didn't you claim your role didn't swap?
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Ashethan
11/08/23 5:02:20 PM
#195:


Leafeon13N posted...
Didn't you claim your role didn't swap?

No

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Leafeon13N
11/08/23 5:03:23 PM
#196:


Like, maybe I'm timeline wonky, i thought your original claim was d2. Then you backtracked on d3 saying you didn't actually swap at all.
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TheSultanOfSlam
11/08/23 5:03:40 PM
#197:


Hmmm what if scum is the reverse and Ashe ousted himself in his claim. Then realized of fuck towns the opposite of scum and changed it.

I think Ashe might just be caught and did a pretty damn good job trying to talk himself outta it

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Leafeon13N
11/08/23 5:06:16 PM
#198:


Like, if I have this wrong feel free to correct me this game is confusing enough to keep track of as is.
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htaeD
11/08/23 5:07:56 PM
#199:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Hmmm what if scum is the reverse and Ashe ousted himself in his claim. Then realized of fuck towns the opposite of scum and changed it.

I think Ashe might just be caught and did a pretty damn good job trying to talk himself outta it


I thought that was already assumed?
Largely due to Bens flip stating the opponents team was called Kill Your Friends. And that was for his Survivor role.

Leafeon13N posted...
Like, if I have this wrong feel free to correct me this game is confusing enough to keep track of as is.

No the controversy was him stating he was a killer flavor day1 when almost everyone else was a survivor. (except you as far as we know, but you claimed miller anyway) Thats what he took back.

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/08/23 5:13:04 PM
#200:


Right that's what I'm saying I think Ashe probably claimed scum and we didn't even realize that until now. Or atleast I didn't

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