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Bio1590
11/05/23 12:52:29 AM
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Basically it just gets revealed that Nehal, Basim's "friend", has not only actually been a figment of his imagination the entire time, but is also in fact actually the consciousness of Loki inside of him. And he pretty much just straight-up accepts becoming Loki, there's no fight against it like Eivor fighting against Odin wanting control of her.

What pisspoor payoff lol

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ultimate_reaver
11/05/23 12:54:24 AM
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Do people really play those things for the story at this point

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Hexenherz
11/05/23 12:55:17 AM
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ultimate_reaver posted...
Do people really play those things for the story at this point
I do, but the story in Odyssey sucked anus, and Valhalla had some promise but it was pretty messy with all the weird.... well, Valhalla shit.

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St0rmFury
11/05/23 12:55:56 AM
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Wut, Loki?

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Tora_Sami
11/05/23 12:59:59 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Wut, Loki?
Yeah assassin creed mirage is really a Valhalla expansion.

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Flauros
11/05/23 1:02:05 AM
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They need to do a "modern" AC game set during WW2. The whole plot being Hitlers rise to power using artifacts and the Assassins killing him in the end.

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Bio1590
11/05/23 1:03:29 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Wut, Loki?

Did you play Valhalla? The main playable character in Mirage is the same guy that shows up in Valhalla.

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St0rmFury
11/05/23 1:04:30 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Did you play Valhalla? The main playable character in Mirage is the same guy that shows up in Valhalla.
Nope, I know some bits & pieces but it's alright, I stopped following the story after Revelations and a bit of AC3.

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Bio1590
11/05/23 1:04:44 AM
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ultimate_reaver posted...
Do people really play those things for the story at this point

The story of this one is like the whole reason it exists in the first place lol.

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Bio1590
11/05/23 1:20:41 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Nope, I know some bits & pieces but it's alright, I stopped following the story after Revelations and a bit of AC3.

Okay yeah, there's too much to explain so if you actually want to know you'll have to look up the Isu lore for Valhalla.

(The basic high-level gist of it is that Eivor (the playable character of Valhalla) and all the major characters (including Basim, the playable character of Mirage) are all reincarnations of the Norse Gods (Odin, Thor, Freya, Loki, Tyr, etc), who were all real Isu that lived 75,000 years ago).

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OracleGunner
11/05/23 2:19:23 AM
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Did you expect anything else from Basim?

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KnightofShikari
11/05/23 2:41:00 AM
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Flauros posted...
They need to do a "modern" AC game set during WW2. The whole plot being Hitlers rise to power using artifacts and the Assassins killing him in the end.
i swear i remember hearing somewhere that one of the early AC games would have been set in a more modern timeline like WW1 or 2, and you'd have to sneak around the battlefield to assassinate your targets

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St0rmFury
11/05/23 2:41:11 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Okay yeah, there's too much to explain so if you actually want to know you'll have to look up the Isu lore for Valhalla.

(The basic high-level gist of it is that Eivor (the playable character of Valhalla) and all the major characters (including Basim, the playable character of Mirage) are all reincarnations of the Norse Gods (Odin, Thor, Freya, Loki, Tyr, etc), who were all real Isu that lived 75,000 years ago).
And they're able to reincarnate using this yggdrasril technology?

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Bio1590
11/05/23 8:10:49 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
And they're able to reincarnate using this yggdrasril technology?

Yeah that was the point of it. But only once.

OracleGunner posted...
Did you expect anything else from Basim?

I at least expected him to fight it somewhat >_>

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Guns_of_Verdun
11/05/23 8:17:28 AM
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Ass Creed is an unsung challenger to FNAF for absurd nonsensical lore

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Xatrion
11/05/23 8:19:11 AM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Ass Creed is an unsung challenger to FNAF for absurd nonsensical lore

I don't think either of those can hold a candle to the mess of a story that is the MGS series.

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Guns_of_Verdun
11/05/23 8:21:25 AM
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Xatrion posted...
I don't think either of those can hold a candle to the mess of a story that is the MGS series.
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El_Marsh
11/05/23 8:22:40 AM
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I'm more interested in the setting for Mirage than I was for Valhalla but damn if the latter didn't just burn me out on the "new" series.

I've played all of the main AC games at one point or another but I'll probably end up waiting a bit longer to play this one just because Valhalla bored the hell out of me so thoroughly.


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Bio1590
11/05/23 8:26:06 AM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Ass Creed is an unsung challenger to FNAF for absurd nonsensical lore

It'd be way better if Ubisoft hadn't chased Patrice off. Nowadays they can hardly go a game without retconning something or having something come up that doesn't agree with established lore.

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Hexenherz
11/05/23 12:38:07 PM
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El_Marsh posted...
I'm more interested in the setting for Mirage than I was for Valhalla but damn if the latter didn't just burn me out on the "new" series.

I've played all of the main AC games at one point or another but I'll probably end up waiting a bit longer to play this one just because Valhalla bored the hell out of me so thoroughly.
Did you like Odyssey, though?

I got burned out bad on Odyssey but felt like Valhalla found a good balance to keep the action moving without a bunch of pointless fetch quests. And the story was more interesting and coherent.

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Doe
11/05/23 12:49:31 PM
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Xatrion posted...
I don't think either of those can hold a candle to the mess of a story that is the MGS series.
Dude, please. MGS are movie games but remain largely intelligible despite some anime plots and twists.

MGS has nothing on shit like Purple Guy / Pink Guy / Phone guy debates, and that was when FNAF only had 3 games. It's a horror series that makes new convoluted lore as it goes, it's in a different league.

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Ivynn
11/05/23 12:51:06 PM
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I thought AC was science-fiction. When did it start getting involved with myths and gods? >_>

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GuerrillaSoldier
11/05/23 12:52:30 PM
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great another thing with loki
first it was just the mask, then mcu came out and suddenly loki is everywhere
maybe multiverse mcu loki will meet gow loki and ac loki and they'll all loki together everywhere
throw in the mask for the hell of it


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Hexenherz
11/05/23 12:55:26 PM
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Ivynn posted...
I thought AC was science-fiction. When did it start getting involved with myths and gods? >_>
At least as early as Origins.

I don't think I ever fully understood how it all works, but essentially the precursor species that made the technology that saved the planet from the apocalypse were also gods or manifested themselves as the gods that inspired early human mythology.

In Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla you're exploring the afterlives and other worlds as expressed in Ancient Egyptian, Ancient Greek and Viking mythology.

I don't remember if they were meant to be digitalized recreations of the afterlives and you are exploring the echos of those recreations, or if the Isu actually created these places.

It was actually really cool in Origins and Odyssey, but I think they took it a bit too far with Valhalla when it started becoming an even more integral part of the plot rather than a fun foray into different worlds.

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El_Marsh
11/05/23 1:01:28 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Did you like Odyssey, though?

I got burned out bad on Odyssey but felt like Valhalla found a good balance to keep the action moving without a bunch of pointless fetch quests. And the story was more interesting and coherent.
I very much enjoyed Odyssey. I disliked tying certain upgrades to the 10,001 collectibles, as that made it very tedious, even if you didn't give a damn about trophies. The setting, story, and characters kept me into it despite that annoyance.


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OracleGunner
11/05/23 3:49:09 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
I at least expected him to fight it somewhat >_>
You hoped for too much.

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