Current Events > Iranian man attacked by pro-Palestine protesters in UK for being anti-Hamas

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https://www.reddit.com/r/NewIran/s/KlrNvCu25w

Very sad that being anti-terrorist is becoming a controversial take lately.

thats not good and will only give fuel to pro Israelis

So is this the full contextual footage or are there things left out like last time?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/17lz3nz/remember_yesterdays_video_pro_palestiners_corner/

Fuck terrorists and anyone that is stupid enough to support them.

Everyone here who is pro-Palestine will readily and immediately proclaim this to be wrong if it's as it appears. Will people who are pro-Israel's current actions admit when their side is wrong. They seem to consider even being asked to do so offensive.

This raises more questions than solves any answers

-what was his motives coming in to a Pro Palestinian crowd with that?
how many of the pro Palestinian crowd actually supported Hamas?
-or were those supporters just plain suspicious of the guy and mob mentality took over

One has to think why he was walking through the crowd with that sign in the first place?

Arcanine2009 posted...

One has to think why he was walking through the crowd with that sign in the first place?

I think being anti-terrorist is a usually easy take, but I guess when the terrorism is towards jews its totally fine

metralo posted...

I think being anti-terrorist is a usually easy take, but I guess when the terrorism is towards jews its totally fine

Give this poor strawman a rest.

No one here is fine with terrorism towards Jewish people.

ai123 posted...

Give this poor strawman a rest.

No one here is fine with terrorism towards Jewish people.

.... lol

Terrorism is what Israel was founded upon. Thats a fact.

metralo posted...

.... lol

I accept your apology.

falayyou01 posted...

Terrorism is what Israel was founded upon. Thats a fact.

Do you believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist? What's the point of your comment?

falayyou01 posted...

Terrorism is what Israel was founded upon. Thats a fact.

So what do you want to happen to the Jews living in Israel today?

Fenriswolf posted...

So is this the full contextual footage or are there things left out like last time?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/17lz3nz/remember_yesterdays_video_pro_palestiners_corner/

Quoting for visibility.

Yo_D_oY posted...

Do you believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist? What's the point of your comment?

For Israel to abide by international law at a bare minimum. No one disputes the fact that Hamas are terrorists, but then by equal measure, so are Likud. The only way to resolve conflict is with less extreme factions from both sides and an equitable two state solution that works for both sides, not a shoddy process that is brokered by US and Israel, without any regard for the rights of Palestinians to self determination. Yitzhak Rabin was moving in the right direction, but then he was assassinated by a right wing fanatic.

What is sad is that they attacked the man.

Paragon21XX posted...

So what do you want to happen to the Jews living in Israel today?

For them to live in peace side by side with Arabs like they were for hundreds of years before the Zionist movement got greedy, due to Irgun and now Likud overreaching and violating international law through illegal settlements. The elimination of Likud and Hamas and the installation of more left wing governments on both sides would usher in more level headedness. The right wing of both sides are suicidal psychopaths.

Arcanine2009 posted...

This raises more questions than solves any answers

-what was his motives coming in to a Pro Palestinian crowd with that?
how many of the pro Palestinian crowd actually supported Hamas?
-or were those supporters just plain suspicious of the guy and mob mentality took over

One has to think why he was walking through the crowd with that sign in the first place?

The guy with the sign is likely a Shah supporter, who hates the current Iranian government and thus anti-Palestine/pro-Israel by default. It can be assumed that he was there to gaslight the Palestine protesters, similar to the right wing trolls who show up at anti-Islamophobia protests post 9/11 to demand the protesters denounce al-Qaeda, and are certainly not there to have a constructive conversation.

Yo_D_oY posted...

Do you believe Israel doesn't have a right to exist? What's the point of your comment?

You ever notice how people only start talking about "Israel's right to exist" when Israel is being called out for terrorism or war crimes? Almost as if it's a dogwhistle that really means Israel's "right" to do those things.

Trumble posted...

You ever notice how people only start talking about "Israel's right to exist" when Israel is being called out for terrorism or war crimes? Almost as if it's a dogwhistle that really means Israel's "right" to do those things.

His post claims that Israel was founded on terrorism. I'm not questioning if Israel has committed war crimes, that is pretty obvious. But to say it was founded on terrorism with no explanation as a response to someone criticized for saying Hamas is a terrorist organization makes me think he isn't in support of Israel being a sovereign state in any capacity and possibly even a supporter of Hamas with no sympathy of what happened on Oct 7th. So I asked a simple question and now you're jumping to conclusions as usual.

falayyou01 posted...

For Israel to abide by international law at a bare minimum. No one disputes the fact that Hamas are terrorists, but then by equal measure, so are Likud. The only way to resolve conflict is with less extreme factions from both sides and an equitable two state solution that works for both sides, not a shoddy process that is brokered by US and Israel, without any regard for the rights of Palestinians to self determination. Yitzhak Rabin was moving in the right direction, but then he was assassinated by a right wing fanatic.

Some user's here have previously claimed they are resistance force and not terrorists, and they've alluded to "Israel had it coming" when talking about Oct 7th, literally justifying terrorism.

But I can agree, a good 2-state solution would be great. Many attempts have been made but Arab countries also are complicit in ending the deals and not attempting to make peace on the issue. Hence why we now have Israel surrounded by terrorist organizations mostly funded by extremist Islamic countries and an insane amount of propaganda to the point you got people questioning if Oct 7th was a terrorist attack or not.

Yo_D_oY posted...

if Oct 7th was a terrorist attack or not.

It undisputably was. The fact that they targeted civilians, alone, makes it one, no matter what background factors may exist that lead to it.

It would be less clear cut if they attacked a military target, especially one involved in attacks on Gaza. That's not to say there's no possible way it could still be one; just that it wouldn't be as clear cut. But with their target being civilians, there is zero room for debate - it was terrorism.

falayyou01 posted...

Terrorism is what Israel was founded upon. Thats a fact.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/02b6d2ed.jpg

Why bring a sign about Hamas to a Palestinian rally? Do you bring Anti KKK signs to a 4th of July parade?

Forty_Niners posted...

Why bring a sign about Hamas to a Palestinian rally? Do you bring Anti KKK signs to a 4th of July parade?

If someone did bring anti-KKK signs to a 4th of July parade, I doubt that person would be attacked. Probably looked at weird.

To be pro-Palestine means you should also be anti-Hamas, but some people don't agree because they don't actually believe in peace.

Instigators don't get sympathy from me.

Yo_D_oY posted...

If someone did bring anti-KKK signs to a 4th of July parade, I doubt that person would be attacked. Probably looked at weird.

To be pro-Palestine means you should also be anti-Hamas, but some people don't agree because they don't actually believe in peace.

It's gaslighting. The Iranian monarchist was there to spark a confrontation and he got one. Like I said before, it would be akin to someone going to an anti-Islamophobia rally post 9/11 and demand the participants denounce Al-Qaeda. You can see their agenda far away and the protesters have every right to not play his game.

Barbaric assholes with that messy ass culture from the middle ages

metralo posted...

.... lol

Nobody here or anyone reasonable is fine with it.

metralo posted...

I think being anti-terrorist is a usually easy take, but I guess when the terrorism is towards jews its totally fine

I think being anti-child murder is usually an easy take, but I guess when the children being murdered are Palestinian it's totally fine.

Arcanine2009 posted...

how many of the pro Palestinian crowd actually supported Hamas?

Zero

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shhh dont question the narrative
https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/17seamy/more_innocent_civilians_oct_7/

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1712497344376111346

Yeah, don't question Israel's moral superiority.

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Very likely not exactly zero; you always get a few nutters popping into these things.

However, I'd wager that the number of pro-Palestine protestors who do support Hamas is a similar proportion as the number of pro-Israel protestors who do not support the IDF, so it's more than a tad hypocritical for anyone supporting Israel to be complaining about the few bad eggs among the pro-Palestine crowd.

I'm glad political demonstrations are banned where I live.

Shah supporters are amongst the worst, lol.

Absolutely nothing falayyou01 posted was worth modding. The mods here are starting to make me very angry.

1337toothbrush posted...

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1712497344376111346

Yeah, don't question Israel's moral superiority.

That reporter should have hung up on that guy.

mazingetter posted...

I'm glad political demonstrations are banned where I live.

That's not a good thing

TheJustice posted...

Absolutely nothing falayyou01 posted was worth modding. The mods here are starting to make me very angry.

There's been a few such moderations lately, and an unusually high (for GameFAQs) rate of them subsequently getting overturned.

Cant wait for the next major conflict to start do westerners who have nothing to do with said conflict can pick random sides again and forget all about the current event. Especially if both sides would loathe your westernised ass like is the case here. Surprises me there is still even a Ukraine-Russia thread, most other places moved on from that old news.

Zikten posted...

That's not a good thing

Majority of my fellow citizens prefer public order.

Zwijn posted...

Cant wait for the next major conflict to start do westerners who have nothing to do with said conflict can pick random sides again and forget all about the current event. Especially if both sides would loathe your westernised ass like is the case here. Surprises me there is still even a Ukraine-Russia thread, most other places moved on from that old news.

No one "picks random sides". Outside of a small number who have personal connections, the alt-right types always side with the worst evil (Russia, Israel) and the rest of the people side with those who are not evil (Ukraine, civilians in Palestine and Israel).

mazingetter posted...

Majority of my fellow citizens prefer public order.

Political demonstrations don't always mean riots

Trumble posted...

No one "picks random sides". Outside of a small number who have personal connections or other ulterior motives for picking a side, the alt-right types always side with the worst evil (Russia, Israel) and the rest of the people side with those who are not evil (Ukraine, civilians in Palestine and Israel).

That last part isnt really true since I see leftists siding with Hamas and calling for the absolute dissolution of Israel, maybe not in the US but the Dutch leftist subreddits for example do.