Board 8 > Diablo IV: Vessel of Hatred coming Late 2024

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUp65JYZzfM

oh ya I better get my paladin/crusader equivalent this time

The new class already leaked and it's not Paladin related unfortunately.

It's called spiritborn and it's some sort of mystic melee druid kinda thing.

Vessel of Hatred sounds like a synopsis of how many people feel about the game.

skullbone posted...

The new class already leaked and it's not Paladin related unfortunately.

It's called spiritborn and it's some sort of mystic melee druid kinda thing.

Not even Death will save you from Hammerdins!

No, it was trash out of the gate. The "always online, on our servers only" ensured that. It affected the gameplay. It affected the game design. None of it in a good way.

I mean, it's an okay game. But it sure as hell ain't a Diablo game.

I know very little about Diablo 3 aside from "always online" and "real money auction house"

What did the first patch do to make the game bad?

UltimaterializerX posted...

I can disagree on those points, because for me they're whatever.

I'm not going to hijack the topic with this, I promise, but just a few of the aspects of always online:

• Cannot, under any circumstances, pause the game.
• Cannot, under any circumstances, play without other people running around.
• Enemies respawn rapidly, meaning you never feel like you're making progress.
• Enemies respawn rapidly, meaning you can never get anywhere in an efficient manner. (I quit before getting the mount.)
• Overworld is extremely thick with enemies to compensate for groups of players moving through at the same time.
• Group events are happening all over which can often interfere with your intended progress.

Like, I'm okay with these in an MMO. That's the design focus of an MMO. But this isn't World of Diablocraft. And that's only the complaints I had that can be correlated to the always-online aspect. I have quite a few more grievances that I'm not going to air here because it's just kicking a dead horse and that's not the intent of this topic -- I hope the people who are enjoying the game also enjoy the expansion. That just won't be me.

The first major patch definitely made all the wrong moves, but I still enjoyed D4's campaign a ton. I had to make a new character for Season 1 because my sorcerer was basically nerfed into the sun which made my Platinum take a bit longer than planned. Season 2 I only did the story content and that was it, but overall I still enjoy playing the game. I just dont' see myself making another full character until this expansion is out