Current Events > Why do Texans get so annoyed at beans in chilli

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This seems like a very weird and petty hill to die on considering chili recipes are so variable and wildly different household to household

Like you'll put chocolate and anchovies and worcestershire sauce and beer and masa harina in your chilli, but...not beans?

americans just like being really snobby about minor variants of very simplistic foods like burgers and hot dogs and shit

What else do they have? How else are they going to feel something?

Because Texans are annoying

pinky0926 posted...

This seems like a very weird and petty hill to die on

Ask them about the Alamo next time.

pinky0926 posted...

Like you'll put chocolate...... in your chilli,

the fuck?

almost every western I done seent, Texans ate beans at a campfire, maybe theyre just tired of beans

ROBANN_88 posted...

the fuck?

Very standard ingredient in chilli recipes.

MarcyWarcy posted...

americans just like being really snobby about minor variants of very simplistic foods like burgers and hot dogs and shit

Weird to solely blame Americans for something most do.

Texans just want everyone to be as miserable as they are.

pinky0926 posted...

Very standard ingredient in chilli recipes.

do you mean like cocoa powder, or do you mean like going to the store and getting a KitKat and a Mars bar?

ROBANN_88 posted...

do you mean like cocoa powder, or do you mean like going to the store and getting a KitKat and a Mars bar?

A piece of dark chocolate.

GranolaPanic posted...

How else do you make chili without some type of beans?

Exactly the same, but without beans...

Personally, I tend to go with the idea of beans in chili if eating it as a bowl of chili, but no beans if it's going on a hotdog/hamburger/fries/whatever.

ViewtifulGrave posted...

Weird to solely blame Americans for something most do.

Italians are the absolute worst for it. Like they get absolutely buttmad if you don't slice the garlic the correct way (according to how nonna made it) for their roman pasta dish, even though you couldn't get two grandmas together without them arguing about it

ROBANN_88 posted...

do you mean like cocoa powder, or do you mean like going to the store and getting a KitKat and a Mars bar?

a bar of dark cooking chocolate usually (like you'd use in a cake), but lots of things will do.

ai123 posted...

A piece of dark chocolate.

I've never heard of this.

Edit: apparently wife has. Put she is definitely more "worldly" than I am".

pinky0926 posted...

Italians are the absolute worst for it. Like they get absolutely buttmad if you don't slice the garlic the correct way (according to how nonna made it) for their roman pasta dish, even though you couldn't get two grandmas together without them arguing about it

Or put basil and oregano together.

jefffan posted...

I've never heard of this.

Edit: apparently wife has. Put she is definitely more "worldly" than I am".

https://www.southernliving.com/food/dish/chili/chocolate-in-chili

jefffan posted...

I've never heard of this.

Edit: apparently wife has. Put she is definitely more "worldly" than I am".

Check this shit out. Kenji Lopez Alt made a "definitive" (if such a thing exists) 'best chili ever' recipe, and the ingredient list is completely fucking wild.

• 1 pound (450g) dried dark red kidney beans
• 6 tablespoons (54g) Diamond Crystal kosher salt (for table salt, use half as much by volume or the same weight), plus more for seasoning
• 3 whole ancho, pasilla, or mulato chiles, seeded and torn into rough 1-inch pieces (about 1/2 ounce)
• 2 whole New Mexico red, California, costeo, or choricero chiles, seeded and torn into rough 1-inch pieces (about 1/8 ounce)
• 1 whole cascabel, rbol, or pequin chile, seeded and torn in half
• 1 1/2 tablespoons (9g) whole cumin seeds
• 1 1/2 teaspoons (3g) whole coriander seeds
• 2 whole cloves
• 1 star anise
• 5 pounds (2.3kg) bone-in beef short ribs, trimmed of silver skin and excess fa
• tFreshly ground black pepper
• 2 tablespoons (30ml) vegetable oil
• 1 quart (900ml) low-sodium chicken broth (preferably homemade), divided
• 1 ounce (30g) chopped unsweetened chocolate
• 2 tablespoons (30ml) tomato paste1 tablespoon (5g) extra-finely ground coffee beans
• 2 whole anchovy fillets
• 2 teaspoons (10ml) soy sauce
• 1 teaspoon (5ml) Marmite1 large yellow onion, diced fine (about 1 1/2 cups)
• 4 cloves garlic, minced (about 1 tablespoon)
• 3 fresh Thai bird chiles or 1 jalapeo pepper, finely chopped1 tablespoon (3g) dried oregano2 bay leaves
• 1 (28-ounce; 794g) can crushed tomatoes
• 1/4 cup (60ml) cider vinegar, plus more to taste
• 1/4 cup (60ml) vodka or bourbon
• 2 tablespoons (28g) dark brown sugar
• 1 tablespoon (15ml) Buffalo-style hot sauce, such as Frank's RedHot (or more to taste)

For Garnish (all suggestions optional):

• Scallions, thinly sliced
• Cheddar, Jack, or Colby cheese, grated
• Sour cream
• Jalapeo or Poblano peppers, stemmed, seeded, and diced
• Onion, diced
• Avocado, dicedSaltine crackersFritos

Kenji got a helluva lot of flak for it from chili purists.

I say there's room for a big, simple bowl of Texas red - AND for whatever you want to throw into chili. (Marmite is a secret weapon of mine in many dishes.)

The23rdMagus posted...

Kenji got a helluva lot of flak for it from chili purists.

I say there's room for a big, simple bowl of Texas red - AND for whatever you want to throw into chili. (Marmite is a secret weapon of mine in many dishes.)

To me the idea of a chili purist doesn't even make sense. Isn't the roots of the dish to throw together whatever shit you could afford and scavenge into a hearty meal for everyone? Since when was it a defined list of ingredients...

I dunno. I prefer the idea that this is just one of those recipes where the "purity" of it is in being authentic about using what you have access to, rather than a specific list of things that are/are not allowed.

But yeah that ingredient list is bonkers silly

pinky0926 posted...

To me the idea of a chili purist doesn't even make sense. Isn't the roots of the dish to throw together whatever shit you could afford and scavenge into a hearty meal for everyone? Since when was it a defined list of ingredients...

I dunno. I prefer the idea that this is just one of those recipes where the "purity" of it is in being authentic about using what you have access to, rather than a specific list of things that are/are not allowed.

But yeah that ingredient list is bonkers silly

Guess I should clarify - figure there's room for both "simple" and "complicated" chilis.

because it reminds them that they stole the dish from mexicans and by erasing beans in chili they are trying to erase the influence of mexico in texas culture

jefffan posted...

I've never heard of this.

Edit: apparently wife has. Put she is definitely more "worldly" than I am".

I'm pretty sure it's just for the sugar to cancel out some bitterness

same way you put sugar in spaghetti sauce

ai123 posted...

A piece of dark chocolate.

Cocoa powder also works if you dont have dark chocolate on hand.

must be an american thing
they put sugar in everything

thronedfire2 posted...

I'm pretty sure it's just for the sugar to cancel out some bitterness

same way you put sugar in spaghetti sauce

It's to add bitterness. When you use real chilli peppers, they have a sweet, fruity taste, and the bitterness of the chocolate complements it.

GeraldDarko posted...

It's to add bitterness. When you use real chilli peppers, they have a sweet, fruity taste, and the bitterness of the chocolate complements it.

ok that makes sense too since they did say dark chocolate

pinky0926 posted...

Italians are the absolute worst for it. Like they get absolutely buttmad if you don't slice the garlic the correct way (according to how nonna made it) for their roman pasta dish, even though you couldn't get two grandmas together without them arguing about it

We are however, completely unified in that you do not break spaghetti unless you're making something unusual.

potdnewb posted...

because it reminds them that they stole the dish from mexicans and by erasing beans in chili they are trying to erase the influence of mexico in texas culture

Beans were added as a substitute for meat during the great depression because people couldn't afford meat. It was usually made with just meat before then.

Tyranthraxus posted...

We are however, completely unified in that you do not break spaghetti unless you're making something unusual.

so how do they cook it evenly if it sticks out of the pot

Tyranthraxus posted...

Beans were added as a substitute for meat during the great depression because people couldn't afford meat. It was usually made with just meat before then.

i see the texans have gotten to you as well

thronedfire2 posted...

so how do they cook it evenly if it sticks out of the pot

Twist the bunch into a spiral, then drop it in. All the noodles will be at a downward angle, and just slip right in.

thronedfire2 posted...

so how do they cook it evenly if it sticks out of the pot

You just push it down. It's soft enough to bend in just a few seconds after putting it in the pot.

What Texans don't like beans in Chili?

I put Jell-O in mine.

Recently had beanless and tomatoless Texas chili and tbh it wasn't the best thing I've had. Or close.

pinky0926 posted...

Check this shit out. Kenji Lopez Alt made a "definitive" (if such a thing exists) 'best chili ever' recipe, and the ingredient list is completely fucking wild.
...
* 1 teaspoon (5ml) Marmite

That's bloody brilliant! I'll have to try that next time.

pinky0926 posted...

Check this shit out. Kenji Lopez Alt made a "definitive" (if such a thing exists) 'best chili ever' recipe, and the ingredient list is completely fucking wild.

Is that based on this video?

https://youtu.be/pRsPrQ56BvI?si=AKlgC7hoHJnXL3Cl

Cause a good portion of this list doesn't even make it into the video lol

Beans are for poors and Texas hates poors

pinky0926 posted...

Italians are the absolute worst for it. Like they get absolutely buttmad if you don't slice the garlic the correct way (according to how nonna made it) for their roman pasta dish, even though you couldn't get two grandmas together without them arguing about it

I remember when there was a literal riot when someone figured out a "hack" for doing a certain noodle dish faster (I want to say it das a regional lasagna, but I really don't recall exactly). That stuff is wild.

And Americans from all across the country have a meltdown when you use any ingredients that aren't super in line with exactly where they're from, including Texas. Just look at the pizza poll topic and you'll basically just end up with "stuff at Pizza Hut = good, stuff not at Pizza Hut = bad."

ellis123 posted...

And Americans from all across the country have a meltdown when you use any ingredients that aren't super in line with exactly where they're from, including Texas. Just look at the pizza poll topic and you'll basically just end up with "stuff at Pizza Hut = good, stuff not at Pizza Hut = bad."

I haven't seen an American Pizza Hut with fresh basil as a topping option.

Imagine how expensive a big pot of chili with just meat would be in 2023.

Those rich texans can have that shit

Giacomo_Hawkins posted...

I haven't seen an American Pizza Hut with fresh basil as a topping option.

I view that more as those answering the poll thinking of the basil in the pizza sauce rather than the actual topping for that one. It's sort of the "ketchup is a veggie" of pizza toppings mentality.

I didn't think a bowl of Texas Red was the only right way to do chili but I used to be a staunch fan of it because of its simplicity. You can add all that other stuff to it and it's still good, and still chili, but it's not quite the same thing anymore. It's like how you can have a craving for tacos and get a taco but not the taco you had in mind.

Nowadays though I don't give a fuck. I'll throw anything into a chili.

Said it before, but here y'all go:

From the International Chili Society contestant rules, Chapter 3. ICS-SANCTIONED COOKING CATEGORIES FOR ADULTS AND YOUTHS

Traditional Red Chili is any kind of meat, or combination of meats, cooked with red chili peppers, various spices and other ingredients. Beans and non-vegetable fillers such as rice and pasta are not allowed. Preference is not given to either cut meat, ground meat, shredded meat or cubed meat.

Homestyle Chili is any kind of meat, or combination of meats, and/or vegetables cooked with beans, chili peppers, various spices and other ingredients. Homestyle chili may be any color. Beans are required. Preference is not given to either cut, ground, shredded or cubed meat. Seafood is allowed.

Chili Verde is any kind of meat, or combination of meats, cooked with green chili peppers, various spices and other ingredients. Beans and non-vegetable fillers such as rice and pasta are not allowed. Preference is not given to either cut meat, ground meat, shredded meat or cubed meat.

Salsa While no set of ingredients is required for the preparation of salsa, it should contain chiles. Other vegetable, fruit, spice and herb ingredients may be added at the cooks discretion. No meat or seafood by products allowed. Salsa MUST be homemade by the contestant. Commercial salsa will not be accepted. Salsa may be prepared ahead of time or on site.

Note: The above category winners are all chosen by judges. Garnishes must not be used for any category. Rule of thumb - if an ingredient found on the top layer of an entry bowl cannot also be found mixed throughout the entire bowl, it is a garnish and is not permitted. If a bowl is delivered for judging with a garnish, the bowl will be disqualified

Peoples Choice Chili (PC) Any type of chili may be served as PC chili but beans must be included. Winners are determined by the public. PC is required by all adult contestants.[See #6 for rules and exceptions]