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Crescent-Moon
10/31/23 8:24:52 PM
#201:


I don't understand how you can say Ulti and Lea failed a gambit and then go on to say Ulti is town. The statements are completely contradictory.

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PunishedBen
10/31/23 8:25:07 PM
#203:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
It started with:

"What's my role?"

"vanilla"

And morphed into something incomprehensible. Like something utterly mundane become almost lovecraftian of the course of a few hours.

No one took the claim seriously. And then apparently we were supposed to? And apparently ulti DID take it seriously? At least seriously enought to point to and say "she really DID scan me, look!".

Despite everything else about his understanding of his own role informing him that he should know that she shouldn't be able to know what his flavors even mean.
Despite the fact that it all occurred 8 hours before it could have possibly even occurred.

The only true 'ground zero' exists somewhere inside their minds that caused them to go down such a path utterly unprompted.
It started with Ulti saying "I dont THINK I have any abilities"

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/31/23 8:25:30 PM
#204:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
A gambit to what end? From their own perspectives what were they potentially gaining?

I'm not sure I can see what Lea was saying thst Ulti was laying alot of clues to it but I can also see how it could have been some plan that back fired? I don't exactly know

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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:25:50 PM
#206:


Crescent-Moon posted...
I don't understand how you can say Ulti and Lea failed a gambit and then go on to say Ulti is town. The statements are completely contradictory.

Nah, town can definitely gambit.

More often than not it causes mislynches when they do, but in theory it can be done correctly.

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Chaeix
10/31/23 8:26:39 PM
#208:


trying real hard not to let my confirmation bias win but it has been very strange that ulti generally responds to suspicions against him, yet on 3 occasions i have made specific comments about his behavior and they have gone completely ignored. no witty reply, no explanation, no acknowledgement. he has responded to me at times, but i feel like the specific posts he has avoided are the ones where i actually highlighted valid points against him.

i'm too lazy to go through and get those posts but my uncle works at nintendo and said that the posts exist

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Chaeix
10/31/23 8:29:00 PM
#211:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Because the one time I ever did this in the past you got buttmad about it.
do i currently seem like the type of player who would get buttmad about it

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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:29:31 PM
#212:


PunishedBen posted...
It started with Ulti saying "I dont THINK I have any abilities"

Which gives Lea an explanation for believing he just doesn't understand his own vanilla flavor.

But doesn't explain why ulti would believe that Lea would understand his trait combination to mean vanilla.

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PunishedBen
10/31/23 8:30:22 PM
#215:


Crescent-Moon posted...
The ground zero was "Ulti can't explain why he could possibly believe Lea would see his role in a scan and instantly peg him as town vanilla when Ulti himself apparently had no idea he was town vanilla."

This question has been asked, and ignored, many many times. He doesn't have an answer and is hoping to bury it.
But why did Lea tell him "You are vanilla" in the first place if they're scum buddies?

Thats asking for trouble

I do think Lea can be mafia independent of Ulti. She just sussed out his role since he said he had no abilities. Mafia teams are always trying to figure out roles based on information like that. "Vanilla" was a messy answer, yes.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/31/23 8:31:26 PM
#216:


I vote No lynch or kill walls.

B8 special on sbell if we wanna be fancy

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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:32:05 PM
#217:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
B8 special on sbell

Pretty hard pass.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/31/23 8:32:22 PM
#218:


UltimaterializerX posted...
It isnt this hard.

Lea and I are both vanillas.

Thats what I'm saying I don't get the scum scum angle here

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IfGodCouldDie
10/31/23 8:32:31 PM
#219:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Pretty hard pass.
I think he meant Sultan

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Chaeix
10/31/23 8:32:39 PM
#220:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I vote No lynch or kill walls.

B8 special on sbell if we wanna be fancy
sultan you've probably explained but can you reiterate why you think ulti is town

UltimaterializerX posted...
Okay.

I have nothing witty because your points, while wrong, come from a fair place.
ngl this was not the response i was expecting but... also why say i would get butthurt if that's what you had to say after all?

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wallmasterz
10/31/23 8:32:47 PM
#221:


UltimaterializerX posted...
You missed part one where I asked her what my trait is, expecting some joke. Imagine my shock when she just drops my role.

At the time Lea posted saying you were town vanilla didnt you still claim to be completely unsure if you were vanilla or not lol

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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:32:57 PM
#222:


PunishedBen posted...
But why did Lea tell him "You are vanilla" in the first place if they're scum buddies?

Thats asking for trouble

Because they are BOTH the kind of scum players who would do that under the guise that scum would never dare. Meanwhile patting themselves so hard on the back for their own daring in scumchat.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/31/23 8:33:39 PM
#223:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I think he meant Sultan
That be a very fancy special lol

Tbh I picked sbell more or less outta a hat of inactive any inactive would fit this role

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Crescent-Moon
10/31/23 8:34:03 PM
#225:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I vote No lynch or kill walls.

B8 special on sbell if we wanna be fancy
...Why SBell?

I mean it's not happening but why.

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PunishedBen
10/31/23 8:34:24 PM
#226:


Chaeix posted...
trying real hard not to let my confirmation bias win but it has been very strange that ulti generally responds to suspicions against him, yet on 3 occasions i have made specific comments about his behavior and they have gone completely ignored. no witty reply, no explanation, no acknowledgement. he has responded to me at times, but i feel like the specific posts he has avoided are the ones where i actually highlighted valid points against him.

i'm too lazy to go through and get those posts but my uncle works at nintendo and said that the posts exist
Here, have a response. I can do it for him

https://youtu.be/21Kw1gj5JpY?si=rXUtClbWowrzgn6b

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Obellisk
10/31/23 8:34:45 PM
#227:


town Sultan doesnt try to special sbell...


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TheSultanOfSlam
10/31/23 8:35:00 PM
#228:


Chaeix posted...
sultan you've probably explained but can you reiterate why you think ulti is town

ngl this was not the response i was expecting but... also why say i would get butthurt if that's what you had to say after all?

Majority of my town read in him is a vibe thing. No offense to Ulti but he is a terrible scum player lol

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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:35:33 PM
#229:


Obellisk posted...
town Sultan doesnt try to special sbell...

in before someone says "scummoned" :O

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Crescent-Moon
10/31/23 8:35:53 PM
#230:


PunishedBen posted...
But why did Lea tell him "You are vanilla" in the first place if they're scum buddies?

Thats asking for trouble

I do think Lea can be mafia independent of Ulti. She just sussed out his role since he said he had no abilities. Mafia teams are always trying to figure out roles based on information like that. "Vanilla" was a messy answer, yes.
I actually still rank Lea as higher scum than Ulti, but with votes flooding on an obvious distraction lynch, it wasn't the time to play hero and split the votes between them.

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/31/23 8:36:06 PM
#231:


Obellisk posted...
town Sultan doesnt try to special sbell...

What I really want is no lynch pulled tou name out of a hat. Bur this is funny that you popped in again like this after I mentioned you

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/31/23 8:36:23 PM
#232:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
in before someone says "scummoned" :O
Yes! Lmao

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Crescent-Moon
10/31/23 8:36:47 PM
#233:


Obellisk posted...
town Sultan doesnt try to special sbell...
Who does try to special SBell?

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Obellisk
10/31/23 8:36:50 PM
#234:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
pulled tou name out of a hat


that's a goddamn lie and you know it.


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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:36:51 PM
#235:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
No offense to Ulti but he is a terrible scum player lol

And his posts today strike you as a good town player?

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PunishedBen
10/31/23 8:36:58 PM
#236:


undefined posted...
Which gives Lea an explanation for believing he just doesn't understand his own vanilla flavor.

But doesn't explain why ulti would believe that Lea would understand his trait combination to mean vanilla.


UltimaterializerX posted...
Youre too smart for your own good man.
I think what Ulti is saying is that he should have thought about that in the moment but didnt, and doesnt want to admit that, or its too late to admit that. So...yeah

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UltimateBrohan
10/31/23 8:37:21 PM
#237:


based on the whole dayscan thing id probably vote lea over ulti but i could do ulti if thats how its shaping up

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Crescent-Moon
10/31/23 8:37:39 PM
#238:


"Undefined"?

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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:37:48 PM
#239:


Does anyone have updated votals?

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UltimateBrohan
10/31/23 8:38:14 PM
#240:


not trying to vote ashe
if you wanna last minute lynch an inactive corrik is right there

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TheSultanOfSlam
10/31/23 8:38:15 PM
#241:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
And his posts today strike you as a good town player?
This is typical day 1 ulti.
Atleast I think so

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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:38:24 PM
#242:


Crescent-Moon posted...
"Undefined"?

undeFineD

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Obellisk
10/31/23 8:38:52 PM
#243:


we don't lynch corrik.

Broflan, wanna lynch sultan?

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UltimateBrohan
10/31/23 8:39:05 PM
#244:


slightly but not more than ulti or lea

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Chaeix
10/31/23 8:39:20 PM
#245:


UltimateBrohan posted...
not trying to vote ashe
if you wanna last minute lynch an inactive corrik is right there
I honestly forgot corrik was playing

corrik/Ulti scumteam with Ulti going after inscribed and ignoring corrik would be pretty lol

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Chaeix
10/31/23 8:39:48 PM
#247:


Inactives* not inscribed stupid autocorrect

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Forceful_Dragon
10/31/23 8:40:36 PM
#248:


Obellisk posted...
we don't lynch corrik.

Broflan, wanna lynch sultan?

I haven't loved everything about Sultan but I'd honestly prefer to keep the list of possible options smaller to force people to decide from a short list. Ulti vs Wallz was my preference but evidently Lea would not be denied a spot in the conversation and Team Ulti is making a strong push for Ashe.

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Crescent-Moon
10/31/23 8:40:38 PM
#249:


UltimateBrohan posted...
based on the whole dayscan thing id probably vote lea over ulti but i could do ulti if thats how its shaping up
Same. I think there's at least some possibility of Ulti completely fucking this up as town. Lea is basically caught scum at this point. I only moved my votes because of an alarming surge of votes on Ashe made me worried we'd split votes on the two scum and let them pull off a mislynch.

And who were leading those votes? Ulti and Lea.

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PunishedBen
10/31/23 8:40:47 PM
#250:


My options are - let you all kill Ulti just for the pleasure of being right, though its a little early for that. Kill Ashe if we're super lazy and picking off someone more under the radar. Kill Lea if we want to aim for mafia but deprive ourselves of the funniest poster in the process. (I'm so sorry Wallz)

Or, we b8 special. I'm liking that last one :}

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