Current Events > Man, I miss Mei Ling's accent in MGS1. Fuck you Twin Snakes!

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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 3:44:56 PM
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and a minor fuck you to MGS2 and 4 for also taking it out, but she's barely in those games

idc how much supposed sense it does or does not make. She's way better with it and Snake shouldve gotten with her in MGS1 instead of Meryl >_>

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MICHALECOLE
10/26/23 3:46:21 PM
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Ive never played a mgs game, but I saw theyre on the switch and thought Id give them a shot
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Revisited
10/26/23 3:47:33 PM
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All the accents were ruined. Revolver ocelot had a much more pronounced (and badass) accent in the real mgs 1.

The only accent that somewhat carried through was liquid snake's devilishly British accent and they straight up removed that in mgs 4
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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 3:47:33 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Ive never played a mgs game, but I saw theyre on the switch and thought Id give them a shot
Apparently the switch version aint good >_>

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MICHALECOLE
10/26/23 3:48:30 PM
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NeonTentacles posted...
Apparently the switch version aint good >_>
Not good how? Im sure its fine
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DuuuDe14
10/26/23 3:48:50 PM
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It's because she's Chinese American. It didn't really make sense for her to have an accent like that.

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Seaman_Prime
10/26/23 3:49:19 PM
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Ive only played Twin Snakes so when I heard the real voice, I thought it was a joke >_>
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Revisited
10/26/23 3:49:56 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Ive never played a mgs game, but I saw theyre on the switch and thought Id give them a shot
How come?
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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 3:50:13 PM
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DuuuDe14 posted...
It's because she's Chinese American. It didn't really make sense for her to have an accent like that.
I dont care, it's a video game >_> Nanomachines son. She's way cuter and hotter with the accent

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MICHALECOLE
10/26/23 3:50:51 PM
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How come?
Its just never happened. Ive always been interested but just never tried them.
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PissedOffMonk
10/26/23 3:55:46 PM
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DuuuDe14 posted...
It's because she's Chinese American. It didn't really make sense for her to have an accent like that.

Does the game specify what generation shes in? I know plenty of first generation Chinese Americans that have an accent.
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Ivynn
10/26/23 3:56:53 PM
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Twin Snakes just missed the point of MGS in general.

Snake was a goddamned superhero in it.

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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 3:58:08 PM
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PissedOffMonk posted...
Does the game specify what generation shes in? I know plenty of first generation Chinese Americans that have an accent.
Her parents were born in Guangdong, China but she was born and raised in America. She grew up in some city's Chinatown and went to MIT

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Revisited
10/26/23 4:03:39 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Twin Snakes just missed the point of MGS in general.

Snake was a goddamned superhero in it.
Agreed, the only good part of twin snakes was those matrix scenes where snake is basically an action Kung fu star and doing bullet time maneuvering along with that deepthroat guy whatshisname. Some good times
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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 4:05:57 PM
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I do like Twin Snakes's script more than og MGS1. But the voiceacting, cutscenes, and lack of updated level and boss design to accommodate MGS2's gameplay is inferior

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radical_rhino
10/26/23 4:07:14 PM
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The voice acting in Twin Snakes is far better than the original. Especially Mei Ling.

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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 4:07:45 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
The voice acting in Twin Snakes is far better than the original. Especially Mei Ling.
Nah, that aint it brah

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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 6:34:06 PM
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Revisited posted...
Agreed, the only good part of twin snakes was those matrix scenes where snake is basically an action Kung fu star and doing bullet time maneuvering along with that deepthroat guy whatshisname. Some good times
I kinda checked out when Snake did a flip off a stinger missile to shoot his own missile at Liquid's Hind D >_>

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Kim_Seong-a
10/26/23 6:37:12 PM
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Mei Ling still has the accent in 2 though. _.

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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 6:40:31 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
Mei Ling still has the accent in 2 though. _.
Does she? I thought they got rid of it then. I haven't played it in over a decade and she has like 2 lines in that game, so I guess I forgot >_> My bad.

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Jabodie
10/26/23 6:42:21 PM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Not good how? Im sure its fine
They're fine, big difference is MGS2 and 3 run at 30fps instead of 60 for unknown reasons. But if you're going Switch, I'm sure you're fine with that.

Also the physical is just a license. You download all three games so the cartridge has almost nothing on it (total of 21GB of download I think). Which is about what I expected from Konami.

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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 6:43:14 PM
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Yeah I heard the switch cartridge only has the MSX and NES games lmao

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MICHALECOLE
10/26/23 6:58:11 PM
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Jabodie posted...
They're fine, big difference is MGS2 and 3 run at 30fps instead of 60 for unknown reasons. But if you're going Switch, I'm sure you're fine with that.

Also the physical is just a license. You download all three games so the cartridge has almost nothing on it (total of 21GB of download I think). Which is about what I expected from Konami.
I buy pretty much everything digital on the switch

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Kitt
10/26/23 7:01:15 PM
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Twin Snakes >>>>> MGS1

TS is just cool to hate on. I, for one, enjoy having improved QoL elements in my games.

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Darkraiomb
10/26/23 7:05:21 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/5/9/AAUGbDAAE-hT.jpg

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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 7:07:32 PM
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Kitt posted...
Twin Snakes >>>>> MGS1

TS is just cool to hate on. I, for one, enjoy having improved QoL elements in my games.

People are always like, "OMG, he flipped over a missle; so stupid," which barely even cracks the top 20 dumbest shit you'll see in an MGS game.
MGS1 is a *little* more grounded than the other games, so it kinda sticks out a bit >_> MGSTS is just has too many nitpicks for me to enjoy, with the accent removal and inferior voice acting being one of them

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NeonTentacles
10/26/23 8:35:08 PM
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Darkraiomb posted...
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No! The accent is perfect the way it is!

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Ricemills
10/26/23 10:36:16 PM
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MGS1 was "grounded" because technical limitations.

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luigi33
10/26/23 10:40:32 PM
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DuuuDe14 posted...
It's because she's Chinese American. It didn't really make sense for her to have an accent like that.
Depends on if she's 1st generation or not.

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kuwab0
10/26/23 10:43:09 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
The voice acting in Twin Snakes is far better than the original. Especially Mei Ling.
Gray Fox was worse

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Shah138
10/26/23 10:43:35 PM
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NeonTentacles posted...
I do like Twin Snakes's script more than og MGS1. But the voiceacting, cutscenes, and lack of updated level and boss design to accommodate MGS2's gameplay is inferior
It is nice that you can expedite the warming and freezing of the cards though.

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Nasty_Nitro
10/27/23 12:45:24 AM
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Who approved Mei Ling/Naomi/Nastasha sounding like bored bitches the whole time? that was one of the few problems i had with Twin Snakes.


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Trelve
10/27/23 1:18:12 AM
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NeonTentacles posted...
Yeah I heard the switch cartridge only has the MSX and NES games lmao
Which you could probably fit on a floppy disk. Why did Konami even bother going with a physical release for the Switch if this is all they're putting on the cart?
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Dark_Arbron
10/27/23 1:26:50 AM
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The childish overpowered shit Snake does in Twin Snakes is rightly called out, but I do appreciate the improved controls and quality of life changes, so gameplay wise Id still take it over the original. Im skipping cutscenes on replays anyway.

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nocturnal_traveler
10/27/23 1:47:56 AM
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My major problem with Twin Snakes was how they changed the boss music. I know they were going for variety, but they could've at least kept it for one boss.

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Monolith1676
10/27/23 1:50:51 AM
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Revisited posted...
All the accents were ruined. Revolver ocelot had a much more pronounced (and badass) accent in the real mgs 1.

The only accent that somewhat carried through was liquid snake's devilishly British accent and they straight up removed that in mgs 4

They removed it in MGS4 because Cam Clarke no longer voiced Liquid.

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invertedlegdrop
10/27/23 1:53:57 AM
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Monolith1676 posted...
They removed it in MGS4 because Cam Clarke no longer voiced Liquid.

Yeah didnt one of the Japanese VAs die and that threw the whole Liquid/Ocelot thing kinda out the door in MGS4...?

On topic, if you put the PS versions VActing in Twin Snakes, it would be amazing...


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DuuuDe14
10/27/23 4:07:33 AM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
My major problem with Twin Snakes was how they changed the boss music. I know they were going for variety, but they could've at least kept it for one boss.

They couldn't use the original music because they got sued. It's why all of the music is different.

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spikethedevil
10/27/23 4:15:30 AM
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DuuuDe14 posted...
It's because she's Chinese American. It didn't really make sense for her to have an accent like that.

It was also a put on racist accent.

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pegusus123456
10/27/23 4:25:43 AM
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I've always liked the idea I saw online where MGS1 is how it actually happened and TTS is how Otacon describes it happening.

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NeonTentacles
10/27/23 5:32:25 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I've always liked the idea I saw online where MGS1 is how it actually happened and TTS is how Otacon describes it happening.
lmao that's a pretty interesting way of looking at it

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Ivynn
10/27/23 8:00:53 AM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
My major problem with Twin Snakes was how they changed the boss music. I know they were going for variety, but they could've at least kept it for one boss.

I remember liking the Psycho Mantis one tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaeAqCie6FQ

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Nok_Su_Kow
10/27/23 8:21:07 AM
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Snake doesn't ride rockets, save that shit for Raiden. Yes, fuck you Twin Snakes and your broken boss fight.
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spikethedevil
10/27/23 8:42:46 AM
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Nok_Su_Kow posted...
Snake doesn't ride rockets, save that shit for Raiden. Yes, fuck you Twin Snakes and your broken boss fight.

Broken boss fight?

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bigtiggie23
10/27/23 8:48:35 AM
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I didn't really care for how Twin Snakes normalized Naomi's voice. I liked her Nicole Kidman sounding accent in the original.

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Nok_Su_Kow
10/27/23 10:49:39 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Broken boss fight?
Yes, adding the first person perspective eliminates the challenge of at least one of the boss fights.
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Ivynn
10/27/23 10:53:11 AM
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Nok_Su_Kow posted...
Yes, adding the first person perspective eliminates the challenge of at least one of the boss fights.

Talking about Revolver Ocelot? First-person really trivialized that one.


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Nok_Su_Kow
10/27/23 11:36:11 AM
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Ivynn posted...
Talking about Revolver Ocelot? First-person really trivialized that one.
Yeeess...
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spikethedevil
10/27/23 12:57:27 PM
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Ah yeah of course.

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NeonTentacles
10/27/23 1:23:04 PM
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It also makes certain sections way easier when you can just snipe guards on different elevations and across rooms

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