Board 8 > Should superbosses be available before the player is ready to fight them?

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Big_Bob 10/24/23 6:45:29 PM #1:	Should a game let a player fight superbosses before they can even win? - Results (85 votes) Yes, let the player experience the boss for themselves 92.94% (79 votes) 79 No, don't give players access to battles they can't win yet 7.06% (6 votes) 6 I at least wish Bug Fables would let me easily backtrack out of the dungeon when I realize I'm not ready to defeat the secret boss... --- Come watch me on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/gameryogi azuarc beat me. <cite>Big_Bob posted [p:976840909] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote> Should a game let a player fight superbosses before they can even win? - Results (85 votes) Yes, let the player experience the boss for themselves 92.94% (79 votes) 79 No, don't give players access to battles they can't win yet 7.06% (6 votes) 6 Show Voting Form I at least wish Bug Fables would let me easily backtrack out of the dungeon when I realize I'm not ready to defeat the secret boss... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 10/24/23 6:47:21 PM #2:	Yes, there's nothing quite like that feeling of seeing Emerald Weapon for the first time, wondering "What's that?" and immediately getting obliterated. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976840936] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>Yes, there's nothing quite like that feeling of seeing Emerald Weapon for the first time, wondering "What's that?" and immediately getting obliterated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hombad46 10/24/23 6:49:40 PM #3:	Big_Bob posted... I at least wish Bug Fables would let me easily backtrack out of the dungeon when I realize I'm not ready to defeat the secret boss... Don't you have the Ant Compass? --- It's tempting to linger in this moment, while every possibility still exists. But unless collapsed by an observer, they will never be more than possibilities. <cite>hombad46 posted [p:976840974] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>Big_Bob posted... </cite><quote>I at least wish Bug Fables would let me easily backtrack out of the dungeon when I realize I'm not ready to defeat the secret boss...</quote>Don't you have the Ant Compass? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/24/23 6:56:30 PM #4:	Yes. Its hilarious running into a super boss and getting fucking smacked out of nowhere. Still remember the first time I ran into Kingdom Hearts 1 Sephiroth after the other Colosseum stuff and being left dumbstruck as I proceeded to get two shotted by regular strikes. --- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:976841084] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>Yes. Its hilarious running into a super boss and getting fucking smacked out of nowhere. Still remember the first time I ran into Kingdom Hearts 1 Sephiroth after the other Colosseum stuff and being left dumbstruck as I proceeded to get two shotted by regular strikes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 10/24/23 7:11:29 PM #5:	Leonhart4 posted... Yes, there's nothing quite like that feeling of seeing Emerald Weapon for the first time, wondering "What's that?" and immediately getting obliterated. Not quite a superboss, but in the same vein, FF12 sticking an unstoppable T-Rex in the starting zone was fun. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:976841277] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite><quote>Yes, there's nothing quite like that feeling of seeing Emerald Weapon for the first time, wondering "What's that?" and immediately getting obliterated.</quote>Not quite a superboss, but in the same vein, FF12 sticking an unstoppable T-Rex in the starting zone was fun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/24/23 7:18:49 PM #6:	KamikazePotato posted... Not quite a superboss, but in the same vein, FF12 sticking an unstoppable T-Rex in the starting zone was fun. (Not grinding and killing the T-Rex anyway) --- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:976841397] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Not quite a superboss, but in the same vein, FF12 sticking an unstoppable T-Rex in the starting zone was fun.</quote>(Not grinding and killing the T-Rex anyway) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 10/24/23 9:00:16 PM #7:	Only if it's like absolutely obvious you're not supposed to beat them yet it sucks trying to fight a boss that seems doable only for it to turn out this boss is basically impossible until you're like 2 levels higher --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:976843118] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>Only if it's like absolutely obvious you're not supposed to beat them yetit sucks trying to fight a boss that seems doable only for it to turn out this boss is basically impossible until you're like 2 levels higher </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fiop 10/24/23 9:46:53 PM #8:	Or you could be like Chrono Trigger and give people the final boss before they're ready to fight it. --- "so is my word...It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it." - Isaiah 55:11 <cite>Fiop posted [p:976843949] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>Or you could be like Chrono Trigger and give people the final boss before they're ready to fight it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 10/24/23 9:49:39 PM #9:	Fiop posted... Or you could be like Chrono Trigger and give people the final boss before they're ready to fight it. This is Chad game design. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:976844002] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>Fiop posted... </cite><quote>Or you could be like Chrono Trigger and give people the final boss before they're ready to fight it.</quote>This is Chad game design. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neonreaper 10/24/23 9:52:45 PM #10:	not really a boss but makes me think of Son of Arugal --- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. <cite>neonreaper posted [p:976844055] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>not really a boss but makes me think of Son of Arugal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 10/24/23 10:12:25 PM #11:	It works great in Xenoblade. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:976844392] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>It works great in Xenoblade. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 10/25/23 1:53:28 AM #12:	Only if it isnt a 100% roadblock. Emerald Weapon? Sure. Dark Valefor if I want to get back into Besaid or Dark Bahamut while trying to go for an Ultimate weapon and screwed the timing? Fuck off. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:976847079] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>Only if it isnt a 100% roadblock. Emerald Weapon? Sure. Dark Valefor if I want to get back into Besaid or Dark Bahamut while trying to go for an Ultimate weapon and screwed the timing? Fuck off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xtlm 10/25/23 2:09:18 AM #13:	I like when games give you a map and go "Have at it" and you can run into all sorts of stuff you just ain't ready for yet. --- I'd Rather Be A Savage Little Elephant, than be a big Bald Bull "I claim one line in your sig" = TheKnightOfNee <cite>Xtlm posted [p:976847187] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>I like when games give you a map and go "Have at it" and you can run into all sorts of stuff you just ain't ready for yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cavedweller2000 10/25/23 2:21:56 AM #14:	KamikazePotato posted... Not quite a superboss, but in the same vein, FF12 sticking an unstoppable T-Rex in the starting zone was fun. You know what? This is exactly where my mind went! FFXII had a great way of making you feel invincible until you go stumble upon a region with far stronger enemies that smack the shit out of you. The hellhounds in Golmore Jungle is example I think of --- Well done to azuarc for finishing 67 places above me in the 2020 GOTD Guru Contest! <cite>Cavedweller2000 posted [p:976847264] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Not quite a superboss, but in the same vein, FF12 sticking an unstoppable T-Rex in the starting zone was fun.</quote>You know what? This is exactly where my mind went!FFXII had a great way of making you feel invincible until you go stumble upon a region with far stronger enemies that smack the shit out of you. The hellhounds in Golmore Jungle is example I think of </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_Rocks 10/25/23 2:44:20 AM #15:	Sure It was pretty fun getting destroyed by the South Park one --- Not to be confused with XIII_Minerals. <cite>XIII_Rocks posted [p:976847388] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>SureIt was pretty fun getting destroyed by the South Park one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 10/25/23 4:11:41 AM #16:	the brutal challenge is what makes a superboss a superboss so by default i think my favourite kind of superbosses are ones that are just extra hidden optionals at lategame strength that are only available at an early point that makes them only barely winnable in a best case scenario with optimal builds. getting the chance to lose to them horrendously badly and eventually come back on a later playthrough perhaps to work out how to beat them is what makes them cathartic. better yet if the game doesn't allow you a means of grinding/ng+ to make them trivial by the time you know what to do <cite>UF8 posted [p:976847887] in Should sup... [t:80602108]...</cite> <quote>the brutal challenge is what makes a superboss a superboss so by default i think my favourite kind of superbosses are ones that are just extra hidden optionals at lategame strength that are only available at an early point that makes them only barely winnable in a best case scenario with optimal builds. getting the chance to lose to them horrendously badly and eventually come back on a later playthrough perhaps to work out how to beat them is what makes them cathartic. better yet if the game doesn't allow you a means of grinding/ng+ to make them trivial by the time you know what to do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Should superbosses be available before the player is ready to fight them?