Current Events > How do super obese people afford all their food and their homes?

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I'm assuming they are on disability, but how much does that really pay? Would it really cover what I'm assuming is 4 figures on food alone a month?

Food that make people obese are actually cheap. Its the healthy food that is expensive.

Most fat people aren't fat due to the quantity of food they eat, but rather the quality. You know all that cheap stuff in the freezer section? That's what they eat.

kage_53 posted...

Food that make people obese are actually cheap. Its the healthy food that is expensive.

You can eat healthily without spending a fortune, but it is harder to do.

Rag on a stick is cheaper than a big hot water bill

I mean I seen clips of those "My 1000 lbs life" shows and they are eating pizzas and stuff for lunch that's easily $50+.

Granted those might be on the more extreme side of things, but still. Frozen pizzas or chicken strips are still like $12 a pop. Stupid ass 2 liter of soda's close to $4 now. Feel like it'd all add up to close to a thousand a month.

Being rotund use to be a sign of prosperity

GameGodOfAll posted...

I mean I seen clips of those "My 1000 lbs life" shows and they are eating pizzas and stuff for lunch that's easily $50+.

Granted those might be on the more extreme side of things, but still. Frozen pizzas or chicken strips are still like $12 a pop. Stupid ass 2 liter of soda's close to $4 now. Feel like it'd all add up to close to a thousand a month.

Where do you shop at? I see 2 liters for about 80 cents, sometimes less. Frozen pizza can range from 99c (for the small ones) to like $4 or 5 for large (Meanwhile Little Cears is like $7 for their pep...still much cheaper than any other pizza restaurant)

Unhealthy bullshit is cheap and easy. That's it. That's the trap.

kage_53 posted...

Food that make people obese are actually cheap. Its the healthy food that is expensive.

cheap stuff is healthier, the problem is it has to be cooked and doesn't taste as good.

dry beans are like some of the cheapest and most filling things you can buy but it takes a long time to cook them.

Umbreon posted...

Where do you shop at? I see 2 liters for about 80 cents, sometimes less. Frozen pizza can range from 99c (for the small ones) to like $4 or 5 for large (Meanwhile Little Cears is like $7 for their pep...still much cheaper than any other pizza restaurant)

Unhealthy bullshit is cheap and easy. That's it. That's the trap.

Stop & Shop, CVS, Walgreens, corner stores.

Boston though so maybe that's it.

People need to stop pretending like they know what others are eating, what lead them to become obese, etc... without actually knowing those people's circumstances just so they can have a group of people to be angry at and feel superior to.

It could be a physical condition, it could be mental illness, trauma, stress, abusive family, or a number of these or other factors. Hell... I'll even meet you partway and say some are just people with poor impulse control and difficulty with maintaining healthy life or work balances.

Because first off: None of these fat shaming people acting outraged that poor people can afford to be fat care about the people at all, they just like to have an easy target to punch down at.

Secondly: The extent of the concern and advice from this set of people seems to be "stop being fat" and the idea that preventative care or mental health counseling be made available to lower income people is just as big an outrage or dismissed as "sOcIAliZed MeDIcinE!!!"

Because yeah... it is political actually and unfortunately.

Conservatives love a group of people they can be mad at, blame societies problems on, and make themselves feel superior to.

Torgo posted...

People need to stop pretending like they know what others are eating, what lead them to become obese, etc... without actually knowing those people's circumstances just so they can have a group of people to be angry at and feel superior to.

It could be a physical condition, it could be mental illness, trauma, stress, abusive family, or a number of these or other factors. Hell... I'll even meet you partway and say some are just people with poor impulse control and difficulty with maintaining healthy life or work balances.

Because first off: None of these fat shaming people acting outraged that poor people can afford to be fat care about the people at all, they just like to have an easy target to punch down at.

Secondly: The extent of the concern and advice from this set of people seems to be "stop being fat" and the idea that preventative care or mental health counseling be made available to lower income people is just as big an outrage or dismissed as "sOcIAliZed MeDIcinE!!!"

I never judge anyone I see that's obese. Completely aware that there are health conditions or traumas that are beyond their control that can cause being overweight. Feel awful for 'em. Partly because they do have to deal with the scrutiny from strangers.

Hope my topic didn't come off that way because I was just genuinely curious how someone very obese that does eat a lot of food and can't work can afford it all along with a house and car, etc.

GameGodOfAll posted...

I never judge anyone I see that's obese. Completely aware that there are health conditions or traumas that are beyond their control that can cause being overweight. Feel awful for 'em. Partly because they do have to deal with the scrutiny from strangers.

Hope my topic didn't come off that way because I was just genuinely curious how someone very obese that does eat a lot of food and can't work can afford it all along with a house and car, etc.

talking about super obese people like 700+ pounds get that way because of enablers and those people might have jobs.

They live off of SSI, disability, and food stamps.

They're Polpos running their own mafias

GameGodOfAll posted...

I never judge anyone I see that's obese. Completely aware that there are health conditions or traumas that are beyond their control that can cause being overweight. Feel awful for 'em. Partly because they do have to deal with the scrutiny from strangers.

Hope my topic didn't come off that way because I was just genuinely curious how someone very obese that does eat a lot of food and can't work can afford it all along with a house and car, etc.

It does "come off that way" because honestly everyone's circumstance is different. I'd say quite a few have family members that help support them financially, others inherited a home from parents or grandparents, still others might have had productive periods in their life and now find themselves unable to keep it together and hold down a job... they might be on government assistance or they may be burning through savings and investments.

I think you know that, but you are "just asking questions" here, right?

Torgo posted...

I think you know that, but you are "just asking questions" here, right?

No. Really not. Get why you'd think that, but I'm being genuine here. I have no secret "anti-obese" message here. I already know why a good portion of people are obese and think "Oh they're just lazy and need to stop eating" is a super fucking ignorant take. I don't see that sort of fat-shaming opinion veiled in anything I posted. I think you're just used to seeing it in people who do ask these sorts of questions with ulterior motives.

GameGodOfAll posted...

No. Really not. Get why you'd think that, but I'm being genuine here. I have no secret "anti-obese" message here. I already know why a good portion of people are obese and think "Oh they're just lazy and need to stop eating" is a super fucking ignorant take. I don't see that sort of fat-shaming opinion veiled in anything I posted. I think you're just used to seeing it in people who do ask these sorts of questions with ulterior motives.

Then I dunno, man... I listed a number of possibilities in post #17, what do you think of those? Do they make sense to you?

When I was in clinical practice the average weight of patients in the poor area ED I was in was around 350 lbs

Not uncommon to see 500-600 lbs. Indeed, obesity is a national problem but it is much more likely to impact the poor than the rich.

This isn't the year 1300, where obesity was a sign of wealth.

NightingaleMD posted...

This isn't the year 1300, where obesity was a sign of wealth.

Back then, those were the people that would survive the next famine when war broke out and fields were burned by enemy soldiers, or when locusts and mice ate all the crops, or you had droughts for several summers in a row, or the livestock all died to a disease.

Now that we have solved basic food scarcity for the western "first world" we see that survival trait as undesirable.

Torgo posted...

Then I dunno, man... I listed a number of possibilities in post #17, what do you think of those? Do they make sense to you?

Yeah I suppose it's all a combination of me overestimating how much food costs in other places and that I'm just thinking of a more specific scenario of someone who is on their own on a limited income. Not sure how much financial assistance someone would be given through EBT or SSI, but looking at the average cost of living (which again I might be overestimating based on prices here), it just got me thinking how they would afford everything.

This all came about cause I saw a clip from one of those "My 1000 lbs life" type shows and simply tried to figure out how much the big meal they showed cost. Then just doing some math to try and figure out what'd it all be for a month and so on. I'm also now wondering if it was exaggerated for the show since it is reality tv after all.

Torgo posted...

people with poor impulse control

this is the reason people become fat 99 times out of a 100 and is something that is 100% within their power to change, it's not some mysterious boogieman shoving sugary/greasy shit down their gullet

don't use a personal flaw to justify obesity and being a burden to your healthcare system/society at large

GameGodOfAll posted...

Yeah I suppose it's all a combination of me overestimating how much food costs in other places and that I'm just thinking of a more specific scenario of someone who is on their own on a limited income. Not sure how much financial assistance someone would be given through EBT or SSI, but looking at the average cost of living (which again I might be overestimating based on prices here), it just got me thinking how they would afford everything.

This all came about cause I saw a clip from one of those "My 1000 lbs life" type shows and simply tried to figure out how much the big meal they showed cost. Then just doing some math to try and figure out what'd it all be for a month and so on. I'm also now wondering if it was exaggerated for the show since it is reality tv after all.

It's been a long time since I needed them but in California ssi and food stamps use to cap out at near a thousand each, though hardly anyone would be getting the full amount.

I've always thought that it's fucked that a bottle of Coke is cheaper than a bottle of tea.

Its really just thanks to disability pay and how cheap junk food is. To which they eat so much of theyre likely paying a lot more for it then most healthy food tbh.

So anyone trying to claim they cant afford food or something are full of shit. After that and the first few hundred pounds they start to need an enabler like close family or a SO. Both to help with housing and to take care of them and get them food.

Honetly just ending the disability would end this problem within a few years. Or if the enabler is just that dedicated who cares? Its their money at that point.

I wonder the same thing. The amount of stuff they must order all day.

I had the large friend of a friend, and this kid was like 15. But hugggge.

We all ordered our Chinese dish.

He ordered 3.

I remember I was in a Taco Bell drive thru and this whale of a woman in front of me spent like 5 minutes ordering $40 worth of food. It was insane >_> I cant imagine how frantically these workers must be putting the food together to satisfy her caloric intake for lunch in a timely fashion

Take every interest and hobby you have and put all that money into food.

Those people on 600 pound life are thinking of the next meal while eating the current one.

Eating healthy is not that expensive as long as you are a decent cook. You can literally make an entire meal out of a can of beans and diced tomatoes and that only costs like $3. If you go to McDonalds you can easily spend over $10 on a burger and fries.

There's no way the government would allow a super fat person to be homeless on the street begging for food, it would cost the cops and courts too much money to deal with, it would be cheaper to put them on disability enough to pay a house rent and food stamp

Gov't assistance is no joke if you know your way around it to get everything.

SSD caps out at like 3500 right? Food stamps, two dozen different cash assistance programs, rent payments covered, heat/electric/water payments covered, thousands of one time for X or Y payments.

Six figures worth of gov't assistance is terrifyingly easy. And boom, you are a 1%er without doing anything, buy as much food as you want.

toysoldier1982 posted...

Gov't assistance is no joke if you know your way around it to get everything.

SSD caps out at like 3500 right? Food stamps, two dozen different cash assistance programs, rent payments covered, heat/electric/water payments covered, thousands of one time for X or Y payments.

Six figures worth of gov't assistance is terrifyingly easy. And boom, you are a 1%er without doing anything, buy as much food as you want.

Yeah so easy. Everyone I know does this.

Things like Oreos are like $5 for over 3000 calories and is relatively not filling for the calorie count. A package of that, a sedentary lifestyle and some amount of normal food a day gets you into a surplus for not a lot of money. You can probably do $10 a day pretty easily.

R1masher posted...

Being rotund use to be a sign of prosperity

As was having gout and black teeth.