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DocileOrangeCup 10/23/23 8:14:32 AM #1:	I'll start by saying that I think this game has better bosses than elden ring. It also has a lot of really cool concepts and features. The weapon variety, armor, and ng+ system are all some of the best in the series. The disc chime is probably my favorite weapon in the series, next to the demon scar from ds3. Unfortunately, all the good is bogged down by an equal amount of annoyances, and just downright strange gameplay decisions. Hollowing sounds good in concept, but in practice, the whole "I died a lot so I lose half my possible HP" thing is unnecessarily punishing. If I'm fucking up a lot, it's just going to make me want to stop playing if I start dying in 2 hits. Agility is another thing that sounds good on paper. The idea of boosting certain animations like drinking estus through a stat seems like a nice idea until you realize that you'd have to level it pretty high for it to become even kind of Normal, but ultimately it feels like you'd want to be putting your points into something else. I frames being tied to a stat is not a good idea. A lot of things in the game just feel unnecessary and slow. Stamina regen, HP regen, interaction animations, healing, even some attacks all just feel so clunky. Pair this with aggressive mob enemies and reduced HP, and it quickly becomes very frustrating to try to get through certain areas. Bonfire ascetics are really cool though. There are a lot of really unique mechanics in this game that I really really wish they would bring to later games. I definitely think this is the most creative and interesting souls game, and if it was a bit less clunky and a few different design decisions, it would probably be my favorite in the series. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:976813071] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>I'll start by saying that I think this game has better bosses than elden ring. It also has a lot of really cool concepts and features. The weapon variety, armor, and ng+ system are all some of the best in the series. The disc chime is probably my favorite weapon in the series, next to the demon scar from ds3. Unfortunately, all the good is bogged down by an equal amount of annoyances, and just downright strange gameplay decisions. Hollowing sounds good in concept, but in practice, the whole "I died a lot so I lose half my possible HP" thing is unnecessarily punishing. If I'm fucking up a lot, it's just going to make me want to stop playing if I start dying in 2 hits. Agility is another thing that sounds good on paper. The idea of boosting certain animations like drinking estus through a stat seems like a nice idea until you realize that you'd have to level it pretty high for it to become even kind of Normal, but ultimately it feels like you'd want to be putting your points into something else. I frames being tied to a stat is not a good idea. A lot of things in the game just feel unnecessary and slow. Stamina regen, HP regen, interaction animations, healing, even some attacks all just feel so clunky. Pair this with aggressive mob enemies and reduced HP, and it quickly becomes very frustrating to try to get through certain areas. Bonfire ascetics are really cool though. There are a lot of really unique mechanics in this game that I really really wish they would bring to later games. I definitely think this is the most creative and interesting souls game, and if it was a bit less clunky and a few different design decisions, it would probably be my favorite in the series. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 10/23/23 8:40:33 AM #2:	DS2 is where a load of really good mechanics went to die. I'd agree that on the whole ER had weaker bosses. The demigods are mostly pretty strong fights but not one of them are better than Fume Knight or BIK. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:976813295] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>DS2 is where a load of really good mechanics went to die. I'd agree that on the whole ER had weaker bosses. The demigods are mostly pretty strong fights but not one of them are better than Fume Knight or BIK. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 10/23/23 8:43:08 AM #3:	Right off the bat: DocileOrangeCup posted... I'll start by saying that I think this game has better bosses than elden ring. What? Bro, why? --- S / K / Y / N / E <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:976813321] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Right off the bat:DocileOrangeCup posted... </cite><quote>I'll start by saying that I think this game has better bosses than elden ring.</quote>What? Bro, why? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 10/23/23 3:07:34 PM #4:	Cemith posted... DS2 is where a load of really good mechanics went to die. I'd agree that on the whole ER had weaker bosses. The demigods are mostly pretty strong fights but not one of them are better than Fume Knight or BIK. That's a good way to put it. Those 2, alongside alonne, are some of my favorite bosses from the series. Vicious_Dios posted... Right off the bat: What? Bro, why? Mainly due to my own personal feelings when playing the game. I never really felt like "this is bullshit" from a boss in ds2, whereas I felt that way several times in elden ring. Will I say every single boss in ds2 is better than every single boss in elden ring? No, probably not. But the majority of them are imo. --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:976819213] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite><quote>DS2 is where a load of really good mechanics went to die. I'd agree that on the whole ER had weaker bosses. The demigods are mostly pretty strong fights but not one of them are better than Fume Knight or BIK.</quote>That's a good way to put it. Those 2, alongside alonne, are some of my favorite bosses from the series.Vicious_Dios posted... </cite><quote>Right off the bat:What? Bro, why?</quote>Mainly due to my own personal feelings when playing the game. I never really felt like "this is bullshit" from a boss in ds2, whereas I felt that way several times in elden ring. Will I say every single boss in ds2 is better than every single boss in elden ring? No, probably not. But the majority of them are imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 10/23/23 3:10:34 PM #5:	I hated most of the bosses in DS2. Over abundance of guys in armor with swords. The entire game is basically if a team didn't know how to recreate Dark Souls 1 properly and just took all the wrong lessons from it. Poor difficulty balance (so many ambushes, what fun!), poor bosses. Game was huge, though. And very non linear. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976819261] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>I hated most of the bosses in DS2. Over abundance of guys in armor with swords.The entire game is basically if a team didn't know how to recreate Dark Souls 1 properly and just took all the wrong lessons from it. Poor difficulty balance (so many ambushes, what fun!), poor bosses.Game was huge, though. And very non linear. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 10/23/23 3:11:05 PM #6:	The DLC bosses aside, DS2 has some of the worst mechanically designed bosses I've ever seen in a video game and I have no clue how, issue and all, you can say the ER bosses are worse. I'd prefer getting bullshitted by Melania or Margit for 20 hours rather than fight the slew of DS2 bosses who are more likely to hurt themselves in their confusion than actually hit me. Hell the final boss is almost as pathetic as the lone dragonrider. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:976819272] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>The DLC bosses aside, DS2 has some of the worst mechanically designed bosses I've ever seen in a video game and I have no clue how, issue and all, you can say the ER bosses are worse. I'd prefer getting bullshitted by Melania or Margit for 20 hours rather than fight the slew of DS2 bosses who are more likely to hurt themselves in their confusion than actually hit me. Hell the final boss is almost as pathetic as the lone dragonrider. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical_rhino 10/23/23 3:13:03 PM #7:	The health decreasing I think was also in Demons Souls. Its a non-issue in DS2 anyway unless you use the consumable that reverts it every time you die. I would only pop one when my health got noticeably lower or there was a boss or tough challenge I wanted full health for. Even on my first playthrough I ended the game with tons of extra humanity consumables. How agility works is dumb but is far from the only dumb stat mechanic in the series. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical_rhino posted [p:976819311] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>The health decreasing I think was also in Demons Souls. Its a non-issue in DS2 anyway unless you use the consumable that reverts it every time you die. I would only pop one when my health got noticeably lower or there was a boss or tough challenge I wanted full health for. Even on my first playthrough I ended the game with tons of extra humanity consumables. How agility works is dumb but is far from the only dumb stat mechanic in the series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 10/23/23 3:16:10 PM #8:	BurmesePenguin posted... DS2 has some of the worst mechanically designed bosses I've ever seen in a video game and I have no clue how, issue and all, you can say the ER bosses are worse --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:976819356] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>DS2 has some of the worst mechanically designed bosses I've ever seen in a video game and I have no clue how, issue and all, you can say the ER bosses are worse</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 10/23/23 3:30:54 PM #9:	Bonfire ascetics are really cool though. There are a lot of really unique mechanics in this game that I really really wish they would bring to later games. My thought has always been that a lot of that would have worked better had it just been put into a different series. Bloodborne, Sekiro or whatever. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976819594] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote><quote>Bonfire ascetics are really cool though. There are a lot of really unique mechanics in this game that I really really wish they would bring to later games.</quote>My thought has always been that a lot of that would have worked better had it just been put into a different series. Bloodborne, Sekiro or whatever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 10/23/23 3:33:48 PM #10:	Kaldrenthebold posted... I hated most of the bosses in DS2. Over abundance of guys in armor with swords. The entire game is basically if a team didn't know how to recreate Dark Souls 1 properly and just took all the wrong lessons from it. Poor difficulty balance (so many ambushes, what fun!), poor bosses. Game was huge, though. And very non linear. Yeah the design ideas weren't the best but I thought the majority of them were fun. I'll agree some of the "difficulty" is cheap and really annoying. A lot of runbacks are like this. Yeah I got a ton of playtime with it tho. BurmesePenguin posted... The DLC bosses aside, DS2 has some of the worst mechanically designed bosses I've ever seen in a video game and I have no clue how, issue and all, you can say the ER bosses are worse. I'd prefer getting bullshitted by Melania or Margit for 20 hours rather than fight the slew of DS2 bosses who are more likely to hurt themselves in their confusion than actually hit me. Hell the final boss is almost as pathetic as the lone dragonrider. Do you have an example? Honestly, I played this game like I play every souls game, that being in halves, so maybe I just don't remember the bad bosses too much. radical_rhino posted... The health decreasing I think was also in Demons Souls. Its a non-issue in DS2 anyway unless you use the consumable that reverts it every time you die. I would only pop one when my health got noticeably lower or there was a boss or tough challenge I wanted full health for. Even on my first playthrough I ended the game with tons of extra humanity consumables. How agility works is dumb but is far from the only dumb stat mechanic in the series. Why is it a non issue exactly? I farmed humanities but I guess I'm just not super good because I felt like I needed to use them sparingly. I really really wish vendrick's blessing worked in ng+. --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:976819637] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>I hated most of the bosses in DS2. Over abundance of guys in armor with swords.The entire game is basically if a team didn't know how to recreate Dark Souls 1 properly and just took all the wrong lessons from it. Poor difficulty balance (so many ambushes, what fun!), poor bosses.Game was huge, though. And very non linear.</quote>Yeah the design ideas weren't the best but I thought the majority of them were fun.I'll agree some of the "difficulty" is cheap and really annoying. A lot of runbacks are like this.Yeah I got a ton of playtime with it tho.BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>The DLC bosses aside, DS2 has some of the worst mechanically designed bosses I've ever seen in a video game and I have no clue how, issue and all, you can say the ER bosses are worse. I'd prefer getting bullshitted by Melania or Margit for 20 hours rather than fight the slew of DS2 bosses who are more likely to hurt themselves in their confusion than actually hit me. Hell the final boss is almost as pathetic as the lone dragonrider.</quote>Do you have an example? Honestly, I played this game like I play every souls game, that being in halves, so maybe I just don't remember the bad bosses too much.radical_rhino posted... </cite><quote>The health decreasing I think was also in Demons Souls. Its a non-issue in DS2 anyway unless you use the consumable that reverts it every time you die. I would only pop one when my health got noticeably lower or there was a boss or tough challenge I wanted full health for. Even on my first playthrough I ended the game with tons of extra humanity consumables. How agility works is dumb but is far from the only dumb stat mechanic in the series.</quote>Why is it a non issue exactly? I farmed humanities but I guess I'm just not super good because I felt like I needed to use them sparingly. I really really wish vendrick's blessing worked in ng+. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical_rhino 10/23/23 3:36:39 PM #11:	What are your favorite areas? (excluding DLC because those are really the best). Mine are the Gutter and Shrine of Amana. I never played the release version of Shrine of Amana where I heard the magic casters were oppressive. I mean, they still are oppressive, but very manageable. Beautiful area. And The Gutter is just a better version of Blight Town, and the torch mechanic is really cool here. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical_rhino posted [p:976819681] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>What are your favorite areas? (excluding DLC because those are really the best).Mine are the Gutter and Shrine of Amana. I never played the release version of Shrine of Amana where I heard the magic casters were oppressive. I mean, they still are oppressive, but very manageable. Beautiful area. And The Gutter is just a better version of Blight Town, and the torch mechanic is really cool here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 10/23/23 3:44:07 PM #12:	brestugo posted... My thought has always been that a lot of that would have worked better had it just been put into a different series. Bloodborne, Sekiro or whatever. That's fair. There are a few things, like varied armor, that I wish they'd make the standard. radical_rhino posted... What are your favorite areas? (excluding DLC because those are really the best). Mine are the Gutter and Shrine of Amana. I never played the release version of Shrine of Amana where I heard the magic casters were oppressive. I mean, they still are oppressive, but very manageable. Beautiful area. And The Gutter is just a better version of Blight Town, and the torch mechanic is really cool here. Aesthetically, black gulch is one of my favorite areas in the series. Overall tho I'd say I liked the brume tower and eleum loyce. Majula is by far my favorite hub area also. I should probably have said this but I am play sotfs I agree with the gutter, but I did NOT like that place my first go around lol. --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:976819796] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>My thought has always been that a lot of that would have worked better had it just been put into a different series. Bloodborne, Sekiro or whatever.</quote>That's fair. There are a few things, like varied armor, that I wish they'd make the standard.radical_rhino posted... </cite><quote>What are your favorite areas? (excluding DLC because those are really the best).Mine are the Gutter and Shrine of Amana. I never played the release version of Shrine of Amana where I heard the magic casters were oppressive. I mean, they still are oppressive, but very manageable. Beautiful area. And The Gutter is just a better version of Blight Town, and the torch mechanic is really cool here.</quote>Aesthetically, black gulch is one of my favorite areas in the series. Overall tho I'd say I liked the brume tower and eleum loyce. Majula is by far my favorite hub area also. I should probably have said this but I am play sotfsI agree with the gutter, but I did NOT like that place my first go around lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fluttershy 10/23/23 3:50:38 PM #13:	did you try out the bellbong covenant or either of the pvp arenas what about the rat stuff --- https://imgur.com/a7zbPmp.gif <cite>Fluttershy posted [p:976819882] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>did you try out the bellbong covenant or either of the pvp arenaswhat about the rat stuff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 10/23/23 4:13:27 PM #14:	Damn I put aside like an hour to farm the mad warrior mask but I got it on the first attempt lol Fluttershy posted... did you try out the bellbong covenant or either of the pvp arenas what about the rat stuff The wuh?? Nah I turned off online after a guy kept invading me at brume tower. I did grind offline for the vanquisher's seal tho. --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:976820237] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Damn I put aside like an hour to farm the mad warrior mask but I got it on the first attempt lolFluttershy posted... </cite><quote>did you try out the bellbong covenant or either of the pvp arenaswhat about the rat stuff</quote>The wuh?? Nah I turned off online after a guy kept invading me at brume tower. I did grind offline for the vanquisher's seal tho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical_rhino 10/23/23 4:27:59 PM #15:	That NPC invader at the top of that one Brume tower is hilarious. The one that runs down the tower to lead you into an enemy gank. They got creative with the npc invaders in the DLC. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical_rhino posted [p:976820497] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>That NPC invader at the top of that one Brume tower is hilarious. The one that runs down the tower to lead you into an enemy gank. They got creative with the npc invaders in the DLC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 10/23/23 4:33:41 PM #16:	radical_rhino posted... That NPC invader at the top of that one Brume tower is hilarious. The one that runs down the tower to lead you into an enemy gank. They got creative with the npc invaders in the DLC. YEA the first time he spawned I didn't know where he was so I got immediately backstabbed when I opened the chest. I love how they handled that and that one in eleum loyce that straight up betrays your trust if you turn your back to him --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:976820591] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>radical_rhino posted... </cite><quote>That NPC invader at the top of that one Brume tower is hilarious. The one that runs down the tower to lead you into an enemy gank. They got creative with the npc invaders in the DLC.</quote>YEA the first time he spawned I didn't know where he was so I got immediately backstabbed when I opened the chest. I love how they handled that and that one in eleum loyce that straight up betrays your trust if you turn your back to him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 10/23/23 9:15:13 PM #17:	Bumo --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:976825132] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Bumo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big_Nabendu 10/23/23 9:28:44 PM #18:	Wat u play it on? --- The embrace of the Dark is gentle. Let it absorb your sorrows, forever. \[T]/ Owner of the 500 board and Leader of sunbro board GT Nabendu <cite>Big_Nabendu posted [p:976825380] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Wat u play it on? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 10/23/23 9:31:10 PM #19:	Hi cornman --- She/her Dynamite with a laser beam <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:976825429] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Hi cornman </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProfessorKukui 10/23/23 9:37:06 PM #20:	Congrats on playing the best Dark Souls game of the series. Peak. --- golden #b#rown finer temptress <cite>ProfessorKukui posted [p:976825550] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Congrats on playing the best Dark Souls game of the series. Peak. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 10/23/23 9:41:43 PM #21:	radical_rhino posted... That NPC invader at the top of that one Brume tower is hilarious. The one that runs down the tower to lead you into an enemy gank. They got creative with the npc invaders in the DLC. Bro didn't know I had that Seed of a Giants Tree ( ) --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:976825628] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>radical_rhino posted... </cite><quote>That NPC invader at the top of that one Brume tower is hilarious. The one that runs down the tower to lead you into an enemy gank. They got creative with the npc invaders in the DLC.</quote>Bro didn't know I had that Seed of a Giants Tree ( ) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocileOrangeCup 10/23/23 9:41:52 PM #22:	Big_Nabendu posted... Wat u play it on? The trilogy collection for ps4 on a ps5 Crimsoness posted... Hi cornman Heyo crim! Did you play dark souls 2 computer game? ProfessorKukui posted... Congrats on playing the best Dark Souls game of the series. Peak. T-thanks.... I do wish it had more influence on the future games --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:976825631] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>Big_Nabendu posted... </cite><quote>Wat u play it on?</quote>The trilogy collection for ps4 on a ps5Crimsoness posted... </cite><quote>Hi cornman</quote>Heyo crim! Did you play dark souls 2 computer game?ProfessorKukui posted... </cite><quote>Congrats on playing the best Dark Souls game of the series. Peak.</quote>T-thanks.... I do wish it had more influence on the future games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big_Nabendu 10/23/23 10:23:44 PM #23:	U got all the trophies? --- The embrace of the Dark is gentle. Let it absorb your sorrows, forever. \[T]/ Owner of the 500 board and Leader of sunbro board GT Nabendu <cite>Big_Nabendu posted [p:976826288] in Did basica... [t:80600878]...</cite> <quote>U got all the trophies? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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