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ColonizedMind 10/21/23 3:17:35 AM #1:	Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubs Peter Parker is given a job at utopian startup that develops ethical GMO crops and climate engineering, Harry Osborne makes sure that hes appointed a diverse board One of the collectibles is collecting BIPOC murals Miles love interest is a deaf girl One of the villains is physically disabled Theres planned parenthood booths at the college fair Theres hundreds of LGB and especially trans flags all over the game, some of the characters use gender neutral pronouns All the Spanish in the game is gender neutral Theres Ukrainian flags everywhere All the bathrooms are all gender <cite>ColonizedMind posted [p:976776865] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubsPeter Parker is given a job at utopian startup that develops ethical GMO crops and climate engineering, Harry Osborne makes sure that hes appointed a diverse boardOne of the collectibles is collecting BIPOC muralsMiles love interest is a deaf girlOne of the villains is physically disabledTheres planned parenthood booths at the college fairTheres hundreds of LGB and especially trans flags all over the game, some of the characters use gender neutral pronouns All the Spanish in the game is gender neutral Theres Ukrainian flags everywhereAll the bathrooms are all gender</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/21/23 3:22:01 AM #2:	Yeah, I'm waiting for the buttmad people to bitch about the bathrooms. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976776897] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I'm waiting for the buttmad people to bitch about the bathrooms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 10/21/23 3:22:17 AM #3:	Yeah it's pretty cool tbh --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976776898] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Yeah it's pretty cool tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NittanyLions23 10/21/23 3:26:05 AM #4:	I just watched 10 minutes of gameplay and I didnt notice any of these things https://youtu.be/ZRhJT2nmvA4?si=mEEqAcDqcm5BUwAY <cite>NittanyLions23 posted [p:976776927] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>I just watched 10 minutes of gameplay and I didnt notice any of these things https://youtu.be/ZRhJT2nmvA4?si=mEEqAcDqcm5BUwAY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/21/23 3:30:55 AM #5:	NittanyLions23 posted... I just watched 10 minutes of gameplay and I didnt notice any of these things They're all true though --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976776954] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>NittanyLions23 posted... </cite><quote>I just watched 10 minutes of gameplay and I didnt notice any of these things</quote>They're all true though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 10/21/23 3:37:55 AM #6:	pegusus123456 posted... Yeah, I'm waiting for the buttmad people to bitch about the bathrooms. For some reason, the subreddit kotakuinaction keeps popping up on my home page. From what I can tell they are a bunch of buttmad incels mad about not all games having sexy women. Saw a title saying the new game is too woke and they should all boycott it. I'm sure the bathroom thing is high on the list. Didn't care enough to actually read what they were foaming at the mouth about. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:976776991] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, I'm waiting for the buttmad people to bitch about the bathrooms.</quote>For some reason, the subreddit kotakuinaction keeps popping up on my home page. From what I can tell they are a bunch of buttmad incels mad about not all games having sexy women. Saw a title saying the new game is too woke and they should all boycott it. I'm sure the bathroom thing is high on the list. Didn't care enough to actually read what they were foaming at the mouth about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxoto 10/21/23 3:39:48 AM #7:	Spider-Man (and Marvel) has always been progressive, iirc. I remember reading a story, as a kid, where Peter was thinking about maybe revealing his identity to the world, and MJ said he shouldn't because, revealing he's a white guy, he could be taking something from people who could imagine him as part of themselves, or something like that. and this was in the 80s or 90s. there was also a thing about JJJ hating on masked figures, like Spider-Man, because he investigated the KKK when he was younger. --- Don't you agree, Zach? https://streamable.com/enq4r7 <cite>boxoto posted [p:976777003] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Spider-Man (and Marvel) has always been progressive, iirc. I remember reading a story, as a kid, where Peter was thinking about maybe revealing his identity to the world, and MJ said he shouldn't because, revealing he's a white guy, he could be taking something from people who could imagine him as part of themselves, or something like that. and this was in the 80s or 90s. there was also a thing about JJJ hating on masked figures, like Spider-Man, because he investigated the KKK when he was younger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
potdnewb 10/21/23 3:41:12 AM #8:	all of that is well and good except ColonizedMind posted... All the Spanish in the game is gender neutral --- https://youtu.be/mSgnC5eQ5u0?si=lh_nzFRDz4j4jhc8 <cite>potdnewb posted [p:976777016] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>all of that is well and good exceptColonizedMind posted... </cite><quote>All the Spanish in the game is gender neutral</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChrisTaka 10/21/23 3:53:47 AM #9:	NittanyLions23 posted... I just watched 10 minutes of gameplay and I didnt notice any of these things It's almost like you have to play the game to see the things that are in the game --- ChrisTaka's not-alt <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:976777083] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>NittanyLions23 posted... </cite><quote>I just watched 10 minutes of gameplay and I didnt notice any of these things </quote>It's almost like you have to play the game to see the things that are in the game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 10/21/23 3:54:38 AM #10:	Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubs Peter Parker is given a job at utopian startup that develops ethical GMO crops Interesting how Spider-Man wants to ban guns when he has super powers while normal people do not. If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently. There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:976777092] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubsPeter Parker is given a job at utopian startup that develops ethical GMO crops Interesting how Spider-Man wants to ban guns when he has super powers while normal people do not. If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently.There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 10/21/23 3:57:26 AM #11:	I'd imagine Spider-Man would want to ban guns because they make his job so much fucking harder than it needs to be --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976777110] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>I'd imagine Spider-Man would want to ban guns because they make his job so much fucking harder than it needs to be </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 10/21/23 4:00:49 AM #12:	DarthAragorn posted... I'd imagine Spider-Man would want to ban guns because they make his job so much fucking harder than it needs to be In the first game you squared off against goons with rocket launchers. Spiderman being pro gun control is fairly obvious. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:976777127] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>I'd imagine Spider-Man would want to ban guns because they make his job so much fucking harder than it needs to be</quote>In the first game you squared off against goons with rocket launchers. Spiderman being pro gun control is fairly obvious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NittanyLions23 10/21/23 4:04:26 AM #13:	ChrisTaka posted... It's almost like you have to play the game to see the things that are in the game so if the controller was in my hand, I would magically see these things? And if someone else is playing the game, the things are invisible to me? <cite>NittanyLions23 posted [p:976777151] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>ChrisTaka posted... </cite><quote>It's almost like you have to play the game to see the things that are in the game</quote>so if the controller was in my hand, I would magically see these things?And if someone else is playing the game, the things are invisible to me?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 4:06:42 AM #14:	YellowSUV posted... * Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubs * Peter Parker is given a job at utopian startup that develops ethical GMO crops Interesting how Spider-Man wants to ban guns when he has super powers while normal people do not. If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently. There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops. I wonder, if he called out cars for their pollution would people (rightly) remind him that not everyone can swing between buildings? Its tricky to push real world issues through superheroes. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976777166] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>YellowSUV posted... </cite><quote>* Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubs* Peter Parker is given a job at utopian startup that develops ethical GMO crops Interesting how Spider-Man wants to ban guns when he has super powers while normal people do not. If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently.There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops.</quote>I wonder, if he called out cars for their pollution would people (rightly) remind him that not everyone can swing between buildings?Its tricky to push real world issues through superheroes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxoto 10/21/23 4:17:24 AM #15:	YellowSUV posted... Interesting how Spider-Man wants to ban guns when he has super powers while normal people do not. If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently. yea, because only fictional characters, who have powers, are anti-gun. idk if it's ever a main focus in the comics, but Uncle Ben died to gun violence. --- Don't you agree, Zach? https://streamable.com/enq4r7 <cite>boxoto posted [p:976777250] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>YellowSUV posted... </cite><quote>Interesting how Spider-Man wants to ban guns when he has super powers while normal people do not. If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently.</quote>yea, because only fictional characters, who have powers, are anti-gun. idk if it's ever a main focus in the comics, but Uncle Ben died to gun violence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColonizedMind 10/21/23 4:19:14 AM #16:	NittanyLions23 posted... so if the controller was in my hand, I would magically see these things? And if someone else is playing the game, the things are invisible to me? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/1/AAet-YAAE9Sb.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/2/AAet-YAAE9Sc.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/3/AAet-YAAE9Sd.jpg <cite>ColonizedMind posted [p:976777264] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>NittanyLions23 posted... </cite><quote>so if the controller was in my hand, I would magically see these things?And if someone else is playing the game, the things are invisible to me?</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/1/AAet-YAAE9Sb.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/2/AAet-YAAE9Sc.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/3/AAet-YAAE9Sd.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColonizedMind 10/21/23 4:21:14 AM #17:	https://streamable.com/49psut <cite>ColonizedMind posted [p:976777283] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>https://streamable.com/49psut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 10/21/23 4:25:13 AM #18:	next gen of progression --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:976777306] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>next gen of progression </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 10/21/23 4:25:14 AM #19:	NittanyLions23 posted... so if the controller was in my hand, I would magically see these things? And if someone else is playing the game, the things are invisible to me? That how insidious the woke is. Invisible to outsiders so teh libruls can deny the brainwashing that is going on behind the scenes. ~~/s because it is sadly needed for what I typed.~~ --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:976777307] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>NittanyLions23 posted... </cite><quote>so if the controller was in my hand, I would magically see these things?And if someone else is playing the game, the things are invisible to me?</quote>That how insidious the woke is. Invisible to outsiders so teh libruls can deny the brainwashing that is going on behind the scenes. /s because it is sadly needed for what I typed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
potdnewb 10/21/23 4:35:22 AM #20:	YellowSUV posted... There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops. you should do more research before you post erroneous statements monsanto is an evil company and round up has been poisoning the population for decades --- https://youtu.be/mSgnC5eQ5u0?si=lh_nzFRDz4j4jhc8 <cite>potdnewb posted [p:976777368] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>YellowSUV posted... </cite><quote>There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops.</quote>you should do more research before you post erroneous statementsmonsanto is an evil company and round up has been poisoning the population for decades </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 10/21/23 4:52:49 AM #21:	potdnewb posted... you should do more research before you post erroneous statements monsanto is an evil company and round up has been poisoning the population for decades Did you even read what I said? I didn't mention Monstanto at all. I'm talking about GMO crops in general. Just because a company unethically uses GMOs doesn't mean GMOs are inherently unethical. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:976777482] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>potdnewb posted... </cite><quote>you should do more research before you post erroneous statementsmonsanto is an evil company and round up has been poisoning the population for decades</quote>Did you even read what I said? I didn't mention Monstanto at all. I'm talking about GMO crops in general.Just because a company unethically uses GMOs doesn't mean GMOs are inherently unethical. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 4:56:49 AM #22:	In which case is it fair to assume the statement clearly meant develops GMO crops and makes sure its done ethically and you two dont really disagree and are just getting distracted by semantics? --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976777499] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>In which case is it fair to assume the statement clearly meant develops GMO crops and makes sure its done ethically and you two dont really disagree and are just getting distracted by semantics? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/21/23 5:05:25 AM #23:	Yes, I just did that mission in the game. They state at least twice that corporations patent GMO crops as a criticism and say outright that the foundation's crops will be freely available. One of the side missions is hybridizing plants for FEAST, a homeless shelter. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976777546] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Yes, I just did that mission in the game. They state at least twice that corporations patent GMO crops as a criticism and say outright that the foundation's crops will be freely available. One of the side missions is hybridizing plants for FEAST, a homeless shelter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
majin_nemesis 10/21/23 5:09:30 AM #24:	YellowSUV posted... * Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubs * Peter Parker is given a job at utopian startup that develops ethical GMO crops Interesting how Spider-Man wants to ban guns when he has super powers while normal people do not. If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently. There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops. No he wouldn't since normal people having guns is the major problem in the US,in other countries normal people don't have guns and there's less shootings and no school shootings and no need for metal detectors or any protections against school shootings because they simply don't happen <cite>majin_nemesis posted [p:976777564] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>YellowSUV posted... </cite><quote>* Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubs* Peter Parker is given a job at utopian startup that develops ethical GMO crops Interesting how Spider-Man wants to ban guns when he has super powers while normal people do not. If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently.There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops.</quote>No he wouldn't since normal people having guns is the major problem in the US,in other countries normal people don't have guns and there's less shootings and no school shootings and no need for metal detectors or any protections against school shootings because they simply don't happen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheetaluv 10/21/23 5:13:42 AM #25:	Idk if I would notice all this but I'd imagine heavily left or right leaning ppl would. --- Having an opinion is a declaration of war <cite>Cheetaluv posted [p:976777594] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Idk if I would notice all this but I'd imagine heavily left or right leaning ppl would. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 5:17:01 AM #26:	Cheetaluv posted... Idk if I would notice all this but I'd imagine heavily left or right leaning ppl would. Youd definitely notice. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976777621] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Cheetaluv posted... </cite><quote>Idk if I would notice all this but I'd imagine heavily left or right leaning ppl would.</quote>Youd definitely notice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/21/23 5:27:33 AM #27:	Cheetaluv posted... Idk if I would notice all this but I'd imagine heavily left or right leaning ppl would. I've noticed most of it, but maybe I'm considered heavily left leaning. The gun club thing didn't really jump out to me, it's just banter. He says they should be a compliment club instead. I noticed the BIPOC thing just because I didn't know what BIPOC stood for.There's a mission where you go around to different exhibits, but I've not seen any sign that they're a collectible. Hailie, the deaf girl, is pretty cool. They incorporate sign language into her scenes and when she calls you, she uses text-to-speech. One of the villains being disabled is probably Dr. Conners? I've not gotten to that part yet, but he's missing an arm. I don't know that you could include that, he's not quite as disabled when he's an eighteen-foot tall dinosaur. The booth isn't really Planned Parenthood, it's just a booth for contraceptive. I thought it was kind of weird (it's a school fair for Miles' and the other booths are for like astronomy and water filtration), but I didn't connect it to pro-life or anything. I only noticed the bathrooms because I walked down a dead end in the Foundation building and figured I'd see if you could go into the bathroom there. I aimed for the men's room, but they're unisex. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976777672] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Cheetaluv posted... </cite><quote>Idk if I would notice all this but I'd imagine heavily left or right leaning ppl would.</quote>I've noticed most of it, but maybe I'm considered heavily left leaning. The gun club thing didn't really jump out to me, it's just banter. He says they should be a compliment club instead.I noticed the BIPOC thing just because I didn't know what BIPOC stood for.There's a mission where you go around to different exhibits, but I've not seen any sign that they're a collectible.Hailie, the deaf girl, is pretty cool. They incorporate sign language into her scenes and when she calls you, she uses text-to-speech.One of the villains being disabled is probably Dr. Conners? I've not gotten to that part yet, but he's missing an arm. I don't know that you could include that, he's not quite as disabled when he's an eighteen-foot tall dinosaur.The booth isn't really Planned Parenthood, it's just a booth for contraceptive. I thought it was kind of weird (it's a school fair for Miles' and the other booths are for like astronomy and water filtration), but I didn't connect it to pro-life or anything.I only noticed the bathrooms because I walked down a dead end in the Foundation building and figured I'd see if you could go into the bathroom there. I aimed for the men's room, but they're unisex. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 10/21/23 5:52:15 AM #28:	Probably not, it's probably the most aggressively "progressive" game ever made though. ColonizedMind posted... All the Spanish in the game is gender neutral And most people are saying that it sounds French and it actually sounds dumb. There hits a fine line between progressive and oppressive, and that has crossed the line for this. --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:976777804] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Probably not, it's probably the most aggressively "progressive" game ever made though.ColonizedMind posted... </cite><quote>All the Spanish in the game is gender neutral</quote>And most people are saying that it sounds French and it actually sounds dumb. There hits a fine line between progressive and oppressive, and that has crossed the line for this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trelve 10/21/23 6:05:23 AM #29:	ColonizedMind posted... * All the Spanish in the game is gender neutral This is not a good thing. <cite>Trelve posted [p:976777867] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>ColonizedMind posted... </cite><quote>* All the Spanish in the game is gender neutral </quote>This is not a good thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuuuDe14 10/21/23 6:23:34 AM #30:	Trelve posted... This is not a good thing. A coworker and I were just talking about this. At first we thought it was a mistake honestly. --- The Official Sons of Sparda of all GameFAQS boards. June 10, 2018. The day Dante returned to us. Do what you want, just don't expect to get paid. <cite>DuuuDe14 posted [p:976777976] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Trelve posted... </cite><quote>This is not a good thing.</quote>A coworker and I were just talking about this. At first we thought it was a mistake honestly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
superbot400 10/21/23 6:26:59 AM #31:	ColonizedMind posted... * Theres Ukrainian flags everywhere What did you mean by this? In what ***ing universe is supporting a country that got invaded by Russia is progressive signaling. --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. <cite>superbot400 posted [p:976777999] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>ColonizedMind posted... </cite><quote> Theres Ukrainian flags everywhere</quote>What did you mean by this? In what ****ing universe is supporting a country that got invaded by Russia is progressive signaling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColonizedMind 10/21/23 6:30:05 AM #32:	Because its extremely unusual for a game to come out in support of a country in a current conflict like that. Im not commenting on if its good or bad but its certainly progressive. <cite>ColonizedMind posted [p:976778019] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Because its extremely unusual for a game to come out in support of a country in a current conflict like that. Im not commenting on if its good or bad but its certainly progressive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
punkfanalways 10/21/23 6:40:16 AM #33:	Whats the bathroom thing? <cite>punkfanalways posted [p:976778077] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Whats the bathroom thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/21/23 6:40:26 AM #34:	superbot400 posted... What did you mean by this? In what **ing universe is supporting a country that got invaded by Russia is progressive signaling. Our one sadly The right wing is very pro-Russia and pro-Putin. If Trump waspresident, Ukraine would not have support --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:976778078] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>superbot400 posted... </cite><quote>What did you mean by this? In what **ing universe is supporting a country that got invaded by Russia is progressive signaling.</quote>Our one sadlyThe right wing is very pro-Russia and pro-Putin. If Trump waspresident, Ukraine would not have support </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColonizedMind 10/21/23 6:42:22 AM #35:	punkfanalways posted... Whats the bathroom thing? The bathrooms are gender neutral <cite>ColonizedMind posted [p:976778090] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Whats the bathroom thing?</quote>The bathrooms are gender neutral </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/21/23 6:42:25 AM #36:	punkfanalways posted... Whats the bathroom thing? I don't know about every bathroom in the game, but the ones in the Emily-May Foundation are all marked as all-gender bathrooms. And I'm now rolling my eyes at the inevitable news story about Nexus Mods banning a mod to replace those signs when this game comes to PC. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976778092] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Whats the bathroom thing?</quote>I don't know about every bathroom in the game, but the ones in the Emily-May Foundation are all marked as all-gender bathrooms.And I'm now rolling my eyes at the inevitable news story about Nexus Mods banning a mod to replace those signs when this game comes to PC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trelve 10/21/23 6:45:00 AM #37:	ColonizedMind posted... Because its extremely unusual for a game to come out in support of a country in a current conflict like that. Im not commenting on if its good or bad but its certainly progressive. Maybe they'll patch in a few Israeli flags next time. <cite>Trelve posted [p:976778110] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>ColonizedMind posted... </cite><quote>Because its extremely unusual for a game to come out in support of a country in a current conflict like that. Im not commenting on if its good or bad but its certainly progressive.</quote>Maybe they'll patch in a few Israeli flags next time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 10/21/23 7:05:40 AM #38:	Is Spider-Man still pro cop like he was in the last game? --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:976778228] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Is Spider-Man still pro cop like he was in the last game? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 10/21/23 7:16:54 AM #39:	Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubs This is a lie. He finds some mooks robbing a gun club and quips that he'd prefer a compliment club instead of a gun club. An understandable opinion given his job involves getting shot at pretty much every say, and its not a tirade by any longshot. There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops. The main difference is that the startup makes their GMOs open source rather than patented. No one implies GMOs are inherently unethical. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:976778296] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote><quote>Spider-Man is extremely anti-gun and goes on a tirade against a gun club and exclaiming they should ban guns and gun clubs</quote>This is a lie. He finds some mooks robbing a gun club and quips that he'd prefer a compliment club instead of a gun club. An understandable opinion given his job involves getting shot at pretty much every say, and its not a tirade by any longshot.<quote>There is nothing inherently unethical about GMO crops.</quote>The main difference is that the startup makes their GMOs open source rather than patented. No one implies GMOs are inherently unethical. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/21/23 7:17:18 AM #40:	EndOfDiscOne posted... Is Spider-Man still pro cop like he was in the last game? It hasn't come up, but unless he plans to build and operate a prison, he kind of has to be. I don't really get this criticism for superheroes, the worlds they live in are already pretty idealized and it's not like any of them would support the sort of cops people have an issue with. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976778299] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>EndOfDiscOne posted... </cite><quote>Is Spider-Man still pro cop like he was in the last game?</quote>It hasn't come up, but unless he plans to build and operate a prison, he kind of has to be. I don't really get this criticism for superheroes, the worlds they live in are already pretty idealized and it's not like any of them would support the sort of cops people have an issue with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 10/21/23 7:21:31 AM #41:	pegusus123456 posted... It hasn't come up, but unless he plans to build and operate a prison, he kind of has to be. I don't really get this criticism for superheroes, the worlds they live in are already pretty idealized and it's not like any of them would support the sort of cops people have an issue with. I think its pretty reasonable suspension of disbelief. The story isn't about an analysis of policing, its a story about two dudes with spider powers. Having Spidey work with the exclusively good cope we see is fine, so long as it doesn't veer into actual copaganda imo --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:976778320] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>It hasn't come up, but unless he plans to build and operate a prison, he kind of has to be. I don't really get this criticism for superheroes, the worlds they live in are already pretty idealized and it's not like any of them would support the sort of cops people have an issue with.</quote>I think its pretty reasonable suspension of disbelief. The story isn't about an analysis of policing, its a story about two dudes with spider powers. Having Spidey work with the exclusively good cope we see is fine, so long as it doesn't veer into actual copaganda imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/21/23 7:26:23 AM #42:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Having Spidey work with the exclusively good cope we see is fine I don't think you played the first game's DLC lol --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976778354] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Having Spidey work with the exclusively good cope we see is fine</quote>I don't think you played the first game's DLC lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 10/21/23 7:27:32 AM #43:	pegusus123456 posted... I don't think you played the first game's DLC lol You mean Yuri? --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:976778365] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>I don't think you played the first game's DLC lol</quote>You mean Yuri? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soliloquy_Rhap 10/21/23 7:31:28 AM #44:	Cishet white male protagonist so it can't be by definition. <cite>Soliloquy_Rhap posted [p:976778392] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Cishet white male protagonist so it can't be by definition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 7:34:58 AM #45:	Soliloquy_Rhap posted... Cishet white male protagonist so it can't be by definition. User Since: Jul 2023 Karma: 90 Active Posts: 2 --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976778415] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Soliloquy_Rhap posted... </cite><quote>Cishet white male protagonist so it can't be by definition.</quote>User Since: Jul 2023Karma: 90Active Posts: 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soliloquy_Rhap 10/21/23 7:39:42 AM #46:	Dark_Arbron posted... User Since: Jul 2023 Karma: 90 Active Posts: 2 lol I'm not being completely serious but tbh it does seem pretty off to say the most progressive game ever made has a straight white male protagonist unironically. <cite>Soliloquy_Rhap posted [p:976778452] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>User Since: Jul 2023Karma: 90Active Posts: 2</quote>lol I'm not being completely serious but tbh it does seem pretty off to say the most progressive game ever made has a straight white male protagonist unironically. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/21/23 7:46:55 AM #47:	YellowSUV posted... If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently. He's a white, college-educated journalist. Even without powers, he might still be anti-gun. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976778506] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>YellowSUV posted... </cite><quote>If he didn't have super powers I bet he might think differently.</quote>He's a white, college-educated journalist.Even without powers, he might still be anti-gun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
majin_nemesis 10/21/23 7:50:57 AM #48:	DnDer posted... He's a white, college-educated journalist. Even without powers, he might still be anti-gun. so the only people that can be against guns are white? <cite>majin_nemesis posted [p:976778534] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>He's a white, college-educated journalist.Even without powers, he might still be anti-gun.</quote>so the only people that can be against guns are white?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/21/23 7:53:24 AM #49:	majin_nemesis posted... so the only people that can be against guns are white? No. Exercise a little critical thought on this. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976778556] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>majin_nemesis posted... </cite><quote>so the only people that can be against guns are white?</quote>No. Exercise a little critical thought on this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
majin_nemesis 10/21/23 7:54:14 AM #50:	DnDer posted... No. Exercise a little critical thought on this. so why does his race matters? <cite>majin_nemesis posted [p:976778560] in Is Marvel'... [t:80599094]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>No. Exercise a little critical thought on this.</quote>so why does his race matters?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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