Current Events > Biden addresses the Nation - 8 pm eastern

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Intro2Logic posted...

You used the term terrorist sympathizers like 20 minutes ago.

Yeah people who blame Israel first without doing any research, ignoring facts that even a flat earther can clearly see and continue to blame Israel for something they didn't do are terrorist sympathizers.

Many have been on the news and when asked to condemn hamas' terrorist attack, they don't and deflect to "Israel bad" and the users here are regurgitating the same points these literal terrorist sympathizers make.

I mean support Israel, support Gaza citizens, support Ukraine, don't repeat the mistakes of 9/11, stronger together, something missing from this?

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

I mean support Israel, support Gaza citizens, support Ukraine, don't repeat the mistakes of 9/11, stronger together, something missing from this?

that was the basic jist.

Jokes and memes aside, this shit is starting to worry me(Im being serious, as you can tell by the fact that I am not using Vegy Talk). War in Europe, now the the worst Israeli conflict in of our lives. I cannot help but feel things are getting out of control.
Edit: The US Navy shooting drones and missiles coming from Yemen particularly concerns me. I am worried that this move by the Houthi could inspire the region as a whole against Israel.

ironman2009 posted...

that was the basic jist.

It's...oddly refreshing to have a president with a uniting, positive message. I almost forgot what that was like.

Yo_D_oY posted...

Like one of the above bringing up so called ethnic cleansing.

What Israel is doing to Palestine IS ethnic cleansing.
They are not treating the Palestinians humanely at all.

For many years they have treated palestine like shit...

they refuse to seek any alternative solutions such as giving proper human rights to the people of palestine.

You really refuse to ignore whats being told like the other shills.. even though I repeated in your face ad nauseum.

Yo_D_oY posted...

Are you blind to the propaganda that Palestine/Gaza/Hamas has been pushing out as well that users here are eating up? The issue is so complex and people here are doing whataboutisms to deflect blame to Israel whenever given the opportunity. Like one of the above bringing up so called ethnic cleansing. It's ridiculous. Yall sound like you just started to educate yourselves on this conflict after Oct 7 and think you're experts.

are you blind to the propaganda that israel is pushing out? no one is deflecting blame to Israel, you are imagininng that along with many other things, such as that this conflict began october 7th 2023, even though I told you that is bullshit as well many times.

israel has lied many times over throughout this war and will continue to lie, just because one of their lies turned out to be another lie .. that doesnt mean their other lies are now not lies.

anyone that does a bit of research will see that IDF Troops and Extremists would love to annihilate every palestinian. the chants you see of hamas celebrating deaths of innocents, they are just as guilty of .. IDF do not care one bit about treating Palestinians with dignity or respect.

defending palestine does not mean people defend hamas. nor did it ever. you are the one constantly associating the innocents of palestine with hamas terrorists, not us.

the people of palestine have a right to live unlike what you believe, and murdering all of them now because they might turn into a terrorist later is beyond immoral.

they are human beings just like you, just like me, just like everyone else.

Yo_D_oY posted...

becoming fueled by rage

like the IDF and those that support the genocide of palestine because of Hamas?
like being so fueld by rage , to be willing to massacre an entire population

Yo_D_oY posted...

Yeah people who blame Israel first without doing any research, ignoring facts that even a flat earther can clearly see and continue to blame Israel for something they didn't do are terrorist sympathizers.

You are the one ignoring the facts. Calling out Israel for their atrocities does not make anyone a terrorist sympathizer, but your blind arrogance to continue to throw that accusation to try and discredit people is not going to work in your favor.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

I mean support Israel, support Gaza citizens, support Ukraine, don't repeat the mistakes of 9/11, stronger together, something missing from this?

The whole point is to introduce his efforts with the funding bill that's being sent to the republican house. When they start complaining about helping ukraine, Israel, etc. It will hopefully make them look bad.

Xenogears15 posted...

It's...oddly refreshing to have a president with a uniting, positive message. I almost forgot what that was like.

Yeah, Biden talking to all kinds of faiths and ethnic groups and saying they are welcome and American while Donnie says Jewish people who don't vote for him hate Israel.

as expected, twitter is more focused on how he speaks instead of what he said.

ironman2009 posted...

as expected, twitter is more focused on how he speaks instead of what he said.

Let me guess, "God you can clearly see he has dementia!!!"

ironman2009 posted...

as expected, twitter is more focused on how he speaks instead of what he said.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/3/AAfXmyAAE891.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/4/AAfXmyAAE892.jpg Nah were more focused on these polls

Thankfully it sounds like he's sending both? And the UK also sending aid to Palestinians...

Yo_D_oY posted...

Most are in agreement to avoid civilian casualties.

Not you.

The overlap of IDF and copaganda is insane. Same excuses.

Strider102 posted...

Let me guess, "God you can clearly see he has dementia!!!"

they speak in bad faith. The last couple months have shown how bad trump is doing mentally and they never notice

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

Thankfully it sounds like he's sending both? And the UK also sending aid to Palestinians...

So nice of him to send a bit of food to Palestinians while simultaneously sending billions of dollars to Israel for "defensive" bombs.

1337toothbrush posted...

So nice of him to send a bit of food to Palestinians while simultaneously sending billions of dollars to Israel for "defensive" bombs.

That iron dome isn't cheap to maintain I reckon. And I didn't hear him say "a bit of food", but you always were one step ahead of Presidents, tooth.

Collat posted...

Not you.

Did I ever say that civilians should be killed? I think I only mentioned once that in deadly wars there's generally innocent lives taken. I don't agree with it.

How would you handle the response if you were in charge of Israel after October 7th?

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

That iron dome isn't cheap to maintain I reckon. And I didn't hear him say "a bit of food", but you always were one step ahead of Presidents, tooth.

Why doesn't the US build an iron dome for Ukraine?

Yo_D_oY posted...

How would you handle the response if you were in charge of Israel after October 7th?

To me it seemed like Israel's 9/11 moment of plight was short lived and the world quickly went into guessing whose bomb is it anyways. Jesse Waters calling for revenge and the navy vet he interviewed basically said we need to rescue our hostages, take out Hamas and limit the casualties. I'm not sure any of that has been accomplished since Israel retaliated. I do know the leader of Hamas saw the whole thing on TV when he should be behind bars.

SimulationSwarm posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/3/AAfXmyAAE891.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/4/AAfXmyAAE892.jpg Nah were more focused on these polls

So basically, lets do this thing that Republicans want, but Democrats and Independents do not want.

Like, its shit like this why people think the Democrats are fake opposition.

1337toothbrush posted...

Why doesn't the US build an iron dome for Ukraine?

It's Israel's technology backed by the US. Ukraine wants one but Netenyahu won't give it to them for fear it might be stolen and reverse engineered by Russia.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

It's Israel's technology backed by the US. Ukraine wants one but Netenyahu won't give it to them for fear it might be stolen and reverse engineered by Russia.

The US basically paid for the whole thing including its continued operation. You're repeating propaganda from Israel basically word for word. Let's pretend what Israel/you claim is true, what do you think Russia would do with a reverse-engineered iron dome?

1337toothbrush posted...

The US basically paid for the whole thing including its continued operation. You're repeating propaganda from Israel basically word for word. Let's pretend what Israel/you claim is true, what do you think Russia would do with a reverse-engineered iron dome?

You asked a question and I answered. Like before, I use news articles that inform me how the iron dome was created and by which parties. I think Ukraine should get the dome also, you asked why the US won't build it for them and I answered that. I'm guessing Netenyahu just doesn't want Russia to have that extra defense capability. Again that's just what is out there available for anyone to read.

Not sure if related but a US ship shot down some rocket fired from Yemen today.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/security-incident-involving-us-navy-destroyer-red-sea/story?id=104147141

Yo_D_oY posted...

I think I only mentioned once that in deadly wars there's generally innocent lives taken. I don't agree with it.

Yes you do. You've been defending Israel taking innocent lives non stop.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

I mean support Israel, support Gaza citizens, support Ukraine, don't repeat the mistakes of 9/11, stronger together, something missing from this?

I want it too.

But when they say they want everyone dead that isn't following the laws of Muhammad then it become a problem.

Fuck Muhammad, I'm not scared.

So are people getting drafted? Whats the max age if they reinstate the draft ?

The_shibe posted...

So are people getting drafted? Whats the max age if they reinstate the draft ?

You can probably check with Selective Service.

I didn't see this. Was anything of substance said?

MatzoTov posted...

I didn't see this. Was anything of substance said?

I didnt see it but social media is obsessed with the draft now after the speech

The_shibe posted...

I didnt see it but social media is obsessed with the draft now after the speech

Those people sound like dumb fucks.

Nobody is getting drafted. Jesus Christ.

I heard his speech live. Was well-done and concise. It's nice that he recognized the Palestinian people, saying they deserve their own home & security, and calling for a two-state solution. He's been lacking on that in favor of Israel's consideration.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Nobody is getting drafted. Jesus Christ.

Not yet, anyways. Im sure that particular bridge will have to be crossed somewhere down the line though as multiple branches of the armed forces have notably missed their recruitment targets by a large amount as of late, but no point in stressing over it now.

Agent_Stroud posted...

Not yet, anyways. Im sure that particular bridge will have to be crossed somewhere down the line though as multiple branches of the armed forces have notably missed their recruitment targets by a large amount as of late, but no point in stressing over it now.

Nobody is getting fucking drafted. lol

Agent_Stroud posted...

Not yet, anyways. Im sure that particular bridge will have to be crossed somewhere down the line though as multiple branches of the armed forces have notably missed their recruitment targets by a large amount as of late, but no point in stressing over it now.

What exactly is the justification for your belief that there is going to be draft? The military industrial complex is perfectly happy with just giving weapons to Ukraine and Isreal, and neither party would back down from giving at least Isreal money. The War on Terror ended only a short while ago, and there is absolutely no public support for another war. There wasn't even a draft after 9/11.

Why would there be another war, let alone a draft?

Heineken14 posted...

Nobody is getting fucking drafted. lol

Mark my words, if the war pigs are able to make money off the wholesale slaughter of potential dissidents like what theyre currently facing here on the homefront over this current conflict in the Middle East, theyll certainly have no qualms about doing it.

Agent_Stroud posted...

Mark my words, if the war pigs are able to make money off the wholesale slaughter of potential dissidents like what theyre currently facing here on the homefront over this current conflict in the Middle East, theyll certainly have no qualms about doing it.

This going to be the new right wing scare monger? That Biden is going to institute the draft? lol

Heineken14 posted...

This going to be the new right wing scare monger? That Biden is going to institute the draft? lol

Not at all. Just merely giving some insight into why such a thing might be seen as necessary by those who stand to make a tidy sum off the misfortunes of others. I for one hope it never happens, but who knows whats possible in this day and age.

Agent_Stroud posted...

Not at all. Just merely giving some insight into why such a thing might be seen as necessary by those who stand to make a tidy sum off the misfortunes of others. I for one hope it never happens, but who knows whats possible in this day and age.

18 to 26 year olds are in real danger. The question is how deep down the rabbit hole would this get? 30 year olds? 35 year olds? Theoretically even 46 yr olds, who knows?

The_shibe posted...

18 to 26 year olds are in real danger.

I mean, for us fucking up the planet via climate change and giving them an unsustainable unlimited growth capital plan sure, but not from a draft.