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Solar_Crimson
10/15/23 10:32:43 PM
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They created this huge, vibrant cast of characters and built lore for its setting, but it seems like such a waste that it only exists as an online PvP Hero shooter.

While it was huge, they could have leveraged that to make an animated series, and even some single-player spinoffs that explores and expands upon their world; I haven't played either Overwatch game because I don't like FPSes or exclusively-online shooters, but I would have probably been all over the spinoff if they were third-person action games or side-scrollers.

I know that OW2 was supposed to have a story mode or such but it was unceremoniously cancelled despite that being the biggest selling point for OW2, which with the original OW now offline now seems like it exists as a scam to push players towards the more predatory microtranactions of OW2. Maybe things will improve now that Microsoft is running things and Kotick is finally out of the picture?

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Irony
10/15/23 10:33:22 PM
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That's every Blizzard game

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JuanCarlos1
10/15/23 10:35:24 PM
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AB seems very advert to risks. You have the warcraft/starcraft IP and Have done NOTHING? I imagine MS will change that.

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Irony
10/15/23 10:36:00 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
AB seems very advert to risks. You have the warcraft/starcraft IP and Have done NOTHING? I imagine MS will change that.
Don't hold your breath

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Agonized_rufous
10/15/23 10:38:37 PM
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Im still waiting for them to put back some of the cool stuff they removed from OW1

Blizzard isnt even a shell of it's former self

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Illuminoius
10/15/23 10:59:13 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
I know that OW2 was supposed to have a story mode or such but it was unceremoniously cancelled despite that being the biggest selling point for OW2
it still has the missions, they just dropped all the ability tree stuff
the pve was never good so i'm honestly surprised people wanted it so badly, it was at absolute best a novelty you would mess with once and then forget about

Agonized_rufous posted...
Im still waiting for them to put back some of the cool stuff they removed from OW1
like what? not trying to be facetious or anything
the older versions of heroes? the universally-loathed 2 cp in standard matchmaking?
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Skyrazer
10/15/23 11:33:47 PM
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I agree, the OW franchise has easily been one of the most squandered IPs in gaming.

I never really liked the game (tried to get into it when it came out, but went back to TF2), but could easily see Acti-Bliz were sitting on a goldmine of an IP. Then they proceeded to seemingly make every bad decision one could make - horrific balancing issues with stuff like Brig and GOATS-meta, mishandling OW League, halting development for OW2 and then cancelling PVE just to name a few.

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FortuneCookie
10/15/23 11:45:52 PM
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I like the variety of female characters. Some traditionally attractive. Some plus sized. Some muscular. I never played the games as I can't name the characters (aside from Mercy and D. Va). But it's still nice to have variety and body diversity as opposed to every woman being thin and pretty or every woman being not conventionally attractive.
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UnholyMudcrab
10/15/23 11:49:17 PM
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I'm pretty sure Overwatch's plot literally hasn't advanced since it was released.

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dave_is_slick
10/16/23 12:48:42 AM
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No it is not. There's too much lore to leave it only as an online shooter. It would be SUPER easy to create an actual campaign for it.

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dave_is_slick
10/16/23 12:52:04 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm pretty sure Overwatch's plot literally hasn't advanced since it was released.
NOPE! The first game was "about" putting the actual team back together and the second one is about putting the team back together. Absolutely NONE of the characters outside of the old members and some family were actually confirmed to be joining. We all assumed Lucio and D. Va would be obvious choices but everybody is still in limbo after all this time.

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Tyranthraxus
10/16/23 12:54:49 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm pretty sure Overwatch's plot literally hasn't advanced since it was released.

All story content has been historical shit. It's kind of comical in a way. It feels like they made a video game adaptation out of a TTRPG but there's no books for us to make characters & play a game with.

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dave_is_slick
10/16/23 1:02:12 AM
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I mean look at these! How do you create something as good as these and do NOTHING with it?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ09xdxzIJQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8yh83jlXg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfk5HykiEk

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PraetorXyn
10/16/23 1:08:31 AM
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No, thats the Wheel of Time adaptation.

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sabin017
10/16/23 1:13:51 AM
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What about Pokemon Go?

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Guide
10/16/23 1:16:06 AM
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Ankama turned an obscure mmo tactical baking simulator into a multimedia franchise with sheer ambition. Imagine what these fuckers could do with a little sovl.

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invertedlegdrop
10/16/23 1:21:47 AM
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What ruined O2 besides the developers breaking their promises was killing off O1 to prop up O2...

O1 was a big game but now its dead and O2 will never get close to the amount of success the first game had...

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Link_of_time
10/16/23 2:27:31 AM
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PraetorXyn posted...
No, thats the Wheel of Time adaptation.
Nah, that was dead on arrival. OW was actually a huge deal when it debuted.
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Shotgunnova
10/16/23 2:41:03 AM
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Overwatch died when they took armor packs away from my boy Torb.

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Trelve
10/16/23 2:41:45 AM
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Reminder that Team Fortress 2 outlived Overwatch.
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Skyrazer
10/16/23 2:46:59 AM
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Trelve posted...
Reminder that Team Fortress 2 outlived Overwatch.
Hell yeah!

TF2 will NEVER die!

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Dark_Arbron
10/16/23 3:00:31 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
with the original OW now offline now seems like it exists as a scam to push players towards the more predatory microtranactions of OW2.

Im confident that was at least discussed. Its not a tinfoil hat conspiracy either - that sort of thing would be very much in character for Acti-Blizz.

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Akagami_Shanks
10/16/23 3:46:25 AM
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Yeah let's be honest, it was always the plan to go full on microtransaction with OW2, they wouldn't be able to justify adding it to OW1 thats why its unplayable.

Hell in the initial reveal they said OW1 players would be able to play with OW2 players, some behind the scenes big wig probably thought "Well why not force everyone to come to OW2 and remove the ability to buy skins with your in game currency from free loot boxes?"

So naturally the push for PVE(Activision at least 90% knew they wouldn't be going through with it, you don't just spend all that time and effort and unceremoniously drop it. It's not like that mode would be hard to implement it was just a basic story mode) and free to play would "suck people in" and the predatory microtransactions would do the rest.

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Zwijn
10/16/23 3:48:00 AM
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Its a strange franchise. Usually what the game is would be a spin-off of a larger game or franchise, but in Overwatchs case its the main product. Not enough supporting media outside of the shorts and some comics either. Should have been way bigger.
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Link_of_time
10/16/23 1:35:00 PM
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This is even more evident when you compare to it's peers like League of Legends. Riot was an independent unknown company, opposite of Blizzard/Activision. With animated lore video, comics, cg animations, they expanded their world/lore and have grown significantly. It now has multiple successful games based on League, numerous #1 music videos, one of the best animated shows to exist, a thriving e-sports league, and stolen marketspace from OW with their own shooter Valorant.

Riot did everything with League, Blizzard refused to do with Overwatch.
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alphagamble
10/16/23 1:43:14 PM
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It is incredible how they fumbled OW

I genuinely think they had a modern Star Wars on their hands

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IceCreamOnStero
10/16/23 1:44:16 PM
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The characters were all wasted. I have no idea why they didn't branch out more from the base game.

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Coldhardsilver
10/16/23 1:56:26 PM
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This is especially weird to me that Riot, RIOT GAMES, has been less dysfunctional about expanding their brand more.
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legendary_zell
10/16/23 3:09:26 PM
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Link_of_time posted...
This is even more evident when you compare to it's peers like League of Legends. Riot was an independent unknown company, opposite of Blizzard/Activision. With animated lore video, comics, cg animations, they expanded their world/lore and have grown significantly. It now has multiple successful games based on League, numerous #1 music videos, one of the best animated shows to exist, a thriving e-sports league, and stolen marketspace from OW with their own shooter Valorant.

Riot did everything with League, Blizzard refused to do with Overwatch.

This is the biggest tell. If you'd told me even two years ago that League of Legends content would break containment and make me watch despite actively avoiding that entire culture, I wouldn't have believed you. But they did it. There's no reason Overwatch couldn't have done that and more as a shooter rather than a MOBA and with a way bigger studio behind it.

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itcheyness
10/16/23 3:15:49 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
This is the biggest tell. If you'd told me even two years ago that League of Legends content would break containment and make me watch despite actively avoiding that entire culture, I wouldn't have believed you. But they did it. There's no reason Overwatch couldn't have done that and more as a shooter rather than a MOBA and with a way bigger studio behind it.
That would require ambition and a willingness to take risks, very little of that is found in the upper echelons of Corporate America.

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A_Good_Boy
10/16/23 3:31:37 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Overwatch died when they took armor packs away from my girl Brig.


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Dakimakura
10/16/23 3:37:41 PM
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Overwatch was the very last product of old Blizzard and it was an accomplishment. Every moment past that was spent ruining it by new Blizzard. And although old Blizzard for for awhile to stop new Blizzard from ruining it they eventually were defeated and at that point all of old Blizzard was gone from the company. It is just Activision now.

Best hope of another Blizzard being born is if a small company can attain the required resources to create something massive in scale.

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