Board 8 > Blade Mafia 5 Topic 8: The Allmother of Seals

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Isquen Y O U D I E D: He was Small Town Sheriff, TOWN Jailmaster

You live in a sleepy little backwater where there isn't much to do. It's boring, but it makes it easy to do a diligent job. You're thorough, but you're not infalliable, so you try to keep absolutely everything in order that you can You may like said job a little too much, but... That's a story for another day.

You are Small Town Sheriff, TOWN Jailmaster.

Every night. you may target one player. You will both protect and roleblock that player that night. You will then check if your action was successful and successfully hit your intended target.

Alive (10):

1. BCT
2. Chang
3. Ctes
6. IGCD
7. Peaf
8. Red
11. Ulti
12. Wall
14. Death
15. Sheep

Y O U D I E D
Sultan: Dick Tracy, TOWN PT Cop (LD1)
Lea: (KD1)
SBell: Joseph Gordon-Levitt, MAFIA Looper (KN1)
Corrik: Mr. Satan, TOWN Neighbor (KN1)
EDumey: Beowulf, MAFIA Dragon Chaser (LD2)
Plum: A Buddhist Monk, TOWN Mindful (KN2)
FD: Mr. Ed, TOWN Neighbor (LD3)
Isquen: Small Town Sheriff, TOWN Jailmaster

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to seal someone. The day will end at approximately 8pm est on Sunday, October 15th.

I tried to bodyguard Isquen but was roleblocked.

I still am not liking peafs vibes. Peaf, you need to tell us when you plan on using your ability.

Isquen is gonna be beating himself up in dtc if hes the one who RBd me =)

That doesn't surprise me anymore. Was starting to believe he was indeed necessary protection.

Okay, so first, FD deserved to be lynched for making personal attacks on me. This is not cool and its 100% why I stopped pushing for someone else. I was trying to help you, FD, and then you insulted my intelligence. Excuse me for having a life and some mental health shit going on. I dont intend to ever play with FD again, FWIW, and this may be my last game in general.

But lets talk about some potential SCUM, okay?

Peaf: I like the idea of a Peaf lynch at this point. Something just seems off about him, and if he hasnt used his power by the time of this posting... he needs to be in the crosshairs. No excuses anymore.

Ctes: Still not sure why he wasnt overly active early on. Really feels like he was trying to sneak by unnoticed, taking advantage of the lack of activity.

Chang: FDs flip has started to make me suspicious of Chang. Like was discussed, a second TOWN Neighbor just as-is implies that theres a SCUM Neighbor as well. Would there be THREE neighbors, all of which are town? Somehow I doubt it. I know, I know, meta at your own risk, but... since FD was town...

I am town.
IGCD is most certainly town if he ate the D1 roleblock. A scum gambit to roleblock themselves D1 isnt totally out of the question, but thats a ridiculous gambit that would require a 4-man team.
Ulti is still a question mark, but I lean town.
Wall is town. I stand corrected on that.
Death is town. His role is necessary balance.
Sheep IDK
Red... did you shoot anybody?

BCT, why do you think Im town now?

Red claimed he got a new shot until he shot town. If he is being truthful, that was his last shot when he killed town plum.

wallmasterz posted...

Isquen is gonna be beating himself up in dtc if hes the one who RBd me =)

I'd hope he wasn't the one to do that. Since when does scum shoot a bodyguard?

Since I got RB'd N2, I am apt to believe that we do have a scum RB. I don't know if they picked me because............................. wait a minute maybe they knew I had some kind of power??? Which would mean........ I don't wanna believe that right now.

wallmasterz posted...

BCT, why do you think Im town now?

Red claimed he got a new shot until he shot town. If he is being truthful, that was his last shot when he killed town plum.

Because I just do. Circumstances changed D3, and you actually decided to try to solve the game intead of tunneling me counterproductively.

And ah, that's what I missed then when I tried to ISO. My bad. Thanks for clearing it up.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

I'd hope he wasn't the one to do that. Since when does scum shoot a bodyguard?

I assume he wouldve done it in an attempt to stop the night kill, ironically.

Since I got RB'd N2, I am apt to believe that we do have a scum RB. I don't know if they picked me because............................. wait a minute maybe they knew I had some kind of power??? Which would mean........ I don't wanna believe that right now.

I dont follow this at all man.

wallmasterz posted...

I dont follow this at all man.

If they knew I got the power, then Death would likely be scum, and I don't want to believe that to be the case this game.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

My bad. Thanks for clearing it up.

No problem dude it was a very active d3

Glad to see that chang is still alive. I'm not fully caught up but I'm sorry to have been wrong about fd. I am very tempted to kill red but i don't think that's appropriate.

Anyway, sorry that life happened. My job and relationship both had some things happen and that takes priority for me over mafia. I was able to get back online at 9 last night, well after deadline. And if you're not cool with that, i can understand it. But you can also kindly buzz off.

I've got some things going on now but snuck away for a sec so as to not keep you in the dark if i was still alive. I have not used my power yet but I will tonight if it works this time.

Peaf, I 100% understand that life happens like that (like it did for me), and you do you. But if you still haven't used your power by tomorrow evening, I'm gonna know that it isn't your actual power.

need to start today with peaf confirming he can use his power. surely by now FD or Corrik has put something in the chat that can confirm Peaf can actually use the power at all

then we can decide how to proceed from there

i knew the vibes were off (we will not be making another lynch with bad vibes)

also i would like to request that Ulti put real effort into solving the game today

thank you

##Vote: Wallz

care to explain why you can speak to other boards as a bodyguard?

Also I lied about my role. My N2 was BCT because I wanted to have something in my back pocket to protect him if I actually felt the lynch was getting close. I just wanted to see where everyone went.

So sorry BCT about yesterday, I just had to pretend I didn't believe you and that I only had one shot.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also I lied about my role. My N2 was BCT because I wanted to have something in my back pocket to protect him if I actually felt the lynch was getting close. I just wanted to see where everyone went.

Holy shit. Good acting, my friend! You had me convinced. So this probably means I teleported the N2 RB onto myself, which resolves any confusion there.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

So sorry BCT about yesterday, I just had to pretend I didn't believe you and that I only had one shot.

And no worries! It certainly got scum to back off of you, which has led us to another one. The "semi-competent" lie sure fooled scum into RBing someone else. I'm gonna guess that was Isquen, who is too dead to counterclaim Wall. Not gonna vote yet since not everyone has been here to check in, but I'm on board with you.

So yeah, I was wrong to read Wall's D3 as town in that case, and my D1-D2 thoughts of him being scum were correct. Should have stuck to my guns!

Also, I decided to replicate FD's good work and recreate - and reorder - his chart.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/7/1/AAR0ZFAAE7nj.png

Did Red ever flavor claim?
Did Ulti activate his 1-night BP?

We'll also learn more as the day goes on about what Death's last item was, and if it ended up mattering. Again, we don't wanna end the day before everyone has a chance to post.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

care to explain why you can speak to other boards as a bodyguard?

Either 1) youre fishing for info or 2) hoping to 1:1 with me, but I am not able to speak with any other board.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

##Vote: Wallz

care to explain why you can speak to other boards as a bodyguard?

LETS GOOOOO

hm on second thought do i think scum IGCD is ever able to do this play

thinking no at the moment but will continue pondering

IGCD, how exactly does the semi capable backup part work? Does it refer to not being fully reliable? Because if youre serious, I assure youre wrong.

I woke up to pee and remembered this might be up. I used an ability granted to me by Death last night. Isquen can confirm in DTC that he jailkept me.

##Vote: Wallz
##Vote: Wallz
##Unvote

Sheep007 posted...

I used an ability granted to me by Death last night. Isquen can confirm in DTC that he jailkept me.

so the ability was roleblocked? lol

changmas posted...

hm on second thought do i think scum IGCD is ever able to do this play

thinking no at the moment but will continue pondering

Not likely I don't think.

Really want to hear from Peaf and his thing.

changmas posted...

hm on second thought do i think scum IGCD is ever able to do this play

thinking no at the moment but will continue pondering

I mean, it's possible he's trying to pocket me and get someone scum finds threatening to be the lynch.

If IGCD is scum pulling this play off, there's three possibilities here:
1) It's MYLO tonight (doubtful, as that would require 6 total scum)
2) He actually has some kind of scum power that activates tomorrow
3) Scum is threatened by Wall

Only one of these has to be true. But given how scummy Wall's D1 and D2 were - and my N2 reread of him from a town perspective got me thinking he was most assuredly scum - I'd think he course-corrected D3 and that's why he was making more sense at that time. Between the two, it feels more in IGCD's town wheelhouse to lie about his powers being weaker to make scum shit the brick, so I'm apt to believe IGCD is town and Wall is not.

changmas posted...

so the ability was roleblocked? lol

No I think that's implying that he got to see his own visitors or something?

Checklist for Peaf in rough order of importance

• Something confirmable from FD / Corrik to prove you can actually see DTC
• Lea's role
• Isquen's target
• any relevant thoughts on game state from anyone who is still invested in the game

wallmasterz posted...

IGCD, how exactly does the semi capable backup part work? Does it refer to not being fully reliable? Because if youre serious, I assure youre wrong.

I don't answer questions from scum.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

No I think that's implying that he got to see his own visitors or something?

Oh, the ability was definitely blocked but we should probably kill wallz too, yes. Just wanted to get it out there so Isquen can confirm the interaction. I assume it's used up now?

Death, why the hell did you pick me of all people to give that to? I was half-considering not using it because I felt a weird choice to gift and thought it might be a trap role.

Sheep007 posted...

Oh, the ability was definitely blocked

Then let me ask you this: How do you know it was Isquen who RB'd (jailkept) you and not scum?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Then let me ask you this: How do you know it was Isquen who RB'd (jailkept) you and not scum?

I assume jailkeeping the vanilla claim to try and stop them killing is more likely than scum thinking I was power?

Although actually, assuming Wallz is scum I was probably the scum target last night.

Still catching up but a few notes.

I cannot copy/paste things directly.

Chang, FD says that he wishes you are a third party so you can get a solo win, since none of town deserves to win.
I don't entirely disagree tbh, if everything we have to show so far is from random powers getting lucky.

Well, revealing to scum that I did have an action is probably not the worst thing that I coulda done while five minutes out of REM sleep but it was still silly given there's no other good block targets if IGCD dies tonight and Wallz is scum. No more mafia in the middle of the night.

Also if Wallz is town and didn't bg Isquen last night he is a madman so I would be inclined to kill him regardless of whatever IGCD has said and I am yet to read.

PeaceFrog posted...

Chang, FD says that he wishes you are a third party so you can get a solo win, since none of town deserves to win.

he did tell me this at the end

Sheep007 posted...

I assume jailkeeping the vanilla claim to try and stop them killing is more likely than scum thinking I was power?

Although actually, assuming Wallz is scum I was probably the scum target last night.

This doesn't sit right with me - not that I think you're lying, I think something about this feels off.

I was RB'd N2, either by drawing those who targeted IGCD onto me or by being RB'd outright. If you were RB'd by scum, it would be two nights in a row that whoever Death gave a toy to got roleblocked despite having claimed vanilla. That's a pattern that is setting off alarm bells in my head, if it is true. I also am not sure why Isquen picked you to jail, unless he thought you were scum or something.

And why would you think scum went after you last night, when they had a jailkeeper on the board? Unless you mean targeted by RB, in which case scum would have to know that targeting you would pay off.

DTC does not have spoilers, unfortunately. And this role is still 100x more nerfed than the version foolmo got in Ulti's game. FML I guess.

Isquen jailed sheep N3 since if Wallz was smart, he would have BG'd Isquen.

Sultan says BCT is town.

Lea wants to know how many games Sbell and Dumey can throw by killing her N1. But she was a detective that could determine if a target has ever performed any kills in the game. She did not receive a result from Corrik, and does not know why Chang did not mention seeing her.

Also she gave me a ton of excellent reading material here. Excellent writer, as always.

Sheep007 posted...

Also if Wallz is town and didn't bg Isquen last night he is a madman so I would be inclined to kill him regardless of whatever IGCD has said and I am yet to read.

This is a fair point, but he said he did guard Isquen and was RB'd.

PeaceFrog posted...

Chang, FD says that he wishes you are a third party so you can get a solo win, since none of town deserves to win.
I don't entirely disagree tbh, if everything we have to show so far is from random powers getting lucky.

I disagree, because I'm actually trying here.

Peaf has been modkilled. He was Asbjorg Nesje, TOWN Death Diver.

You're potentially insane, but it sure gives you a rush. You like to feel as close to death as possible, without actually dying. Essentially a pioneer of one of the world's most ridiculous fads, you ride off of that intensity. The closer you get, the better it feels. Beware though, those who hang around death for too long may find death themselves!

You are Asbjorg Nesje, TOWN Death Diver.

https://discord.gg/7aBXGtk7 (Do not enter here yet)

You have access to the Dead Town Chat from the start of the game - But there's a catch.

One time during the game, you may dwell among the dead. You may choose to do this at any time, and do not require host approval to do so. However, be warned of the corruptive effects of death.

If you spend any longer than 2 hours in the dead town chat, you will die and join them. It is up to you to be mindful of how long you've spent there if a host is not there to remind you. You may not post among the living while you are consorting with the dead, or you will be immediately modkilled, and the day will be ended.

Once you have used your ability, the effects of death will cling onto you until the end of the game:

All investigative powers will get a result that suggest you are not town
All attempts to kill you will be successful
You will not flip upon your death

Alive (9):

1. BCT
2. Chang
3. Ctes
6. IGCD
8. Red
11. Ulti
12. Wall
14. Death
15. Sheep

Y O U D I E D
Sultan: Dick Tracy, TOWN PT Cop (LD1)
Lea: (KD1)
SBell: Joseph Gordon-Levitt, MAFIA Looper (KN1)
Corrik: Mr. Satan, TOWN Neighbor (KN1)
EDumey: Beowulf, MAFIA Dragon Chaser (LD2)
Plum: A Buddhist Monk, TOWN Mindful (KN2)
FD: Mr. Ed, TOWN Neighbor (LD3)
Isquen: Small Town Sheriff, TOWN Jailmaster (KN3)
Peaf: Asbjorg Nesje, TOWN Death Diver (MKD4)

Night actions by 7pm tomorrow night.

The role PM clearly states that he can not post in-game while in DTC and the repercussions of doing so.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

This doesn't sit right with me - not that I think you're lying, I think something about this feels off.

I was RB'd N2, either by drawing those who targeted IGCD onto me or by being RB'd outright. If you were RB'd by scum, it would be two nights in a row that whoever Death gave a toy to got roleblocked despite having claimed vanilla. That's a pattern that is setting off alarm bells in my head, if it is true. I also am not sure why Isquen picked you to jail, unless he thought you were scum or something.

And why would you think scum went after you last night, when they had a jailkeeper on the board? Unless you mean targeted by RB, in which case scum would have to know that targeting you would pay off.

I didn't receive anything from death and was toleblockef

IGCD has been modkilled for posting way after a stop.

The ultimate second fiddle among second fiddles, and mostly living in the shadow of others. Rare are your chances to shine, and even when you get them, you sometimes blow them anyway. Fragile and easy to rattle, you're occasionally capable of heroic deeds, but you're often the butt of the joke anyway. This is your chance to get some respect, at least for a little while.

You are Luigi, TOWN Semi-competent backup.

Once per game, you may use a dead town player's action. However, if this action fails for any reason (including being roleblocked), the power will be lost and you will have missed your chance.

Night continues.

Chang caused some trouble in the neighborhood. He was Mr. Rogers, TOWN Neighbor,

Howdy neighbor. You're the OG neighbor, and allegedly everyone's friend. One of the most recognizable names in TV history, there's almost no one who doesn't at least respect you in the world. Now however, you've settled down. Your neighborhood is more a small, closed space these days.

You are Mr. Rogers, TOWN Neighbor

Alive (7):

1. BCT
3. Ctes
8. Red
11. Ulti
12. Wall
14. Death
15. Sheep

Caused trouble in the neighborhood:
Sultan: Dick Tracy, TOWN PT Cop (LD1)
Lea: (KD1)
SBell: Joseph Gordon-Levitt, MAFIA Looper (KN1)
Corrik: Mr. Satan, TOWN Neighbor (KN1)
EDumey: Beowulf, MAFIA Dragon Chaser (LD2)
Plum: A Buddhist Monk, TOWN Mindful (KN2)
FD: Mr. Ed, TOWN Neighbor (LD3)
Isquen: Small Town Sheriff, TOWN Jailmaster (KN3)
Peaf: Asbjorg Nesje, TOWN Death Diver (MKD4)
Chang: Mr. Rogers, TOWN Neighbor (KN4)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to BANISH SOMEONE TO THE SHADOW REALM. The day will end at 8pm EST on Monday, October 16th.

No one vote.

wallmasterz posted...

No one vote.

Or use any powers.

No, not after that disaster. I'd rather not comment about that aside from that we have 7 left and I think that means we're at MYLO, which is not good at all.

Also gotta add this thought right away:
I'd guess that Peaf's report that Chang did not see Lea is likely irrelevant, given how the Looper kill works. Lea did not receive a result because she was already dead by that time, and thus could not be seen by Chang. As awesome as Lea is, I dont think this holds any water, unfortunately.

And since Chang was the NK, that's definitely how it worked.

Town still has a chance to win this game, kind of like how I still have a chance to make enough money to impress my father in law.

If its MyLo, and almost assuredly is, we have to lynch scum every day from here on out or its game over. No pressure or anything.

BCT, I need to ask you something.

BCT, what are your thoughts on all the remaining players? Earlier you mentioned wanting to find someone who 100% believed you were town so you could solve the game together

What is your take on the remaining players?

To everyone still alive (but particularly Death and Red). I am confirmed Town: I have a doublevote (Death gave it to me and it is active today, for one time only - he can confirm that he gifted it to me and I assume the exact mechanics?). It was, in fact, not used up when I was roleblocked.

If I were scum, I could end the day literally any time I so choose, and the game would already be over, so there would be no reason to disclose this to you. I suggest everyone solving do so with the knowledge I am Town, because the game is already over if I am not (and I would be tucked up snug in bed rather than wasting my time getting this info out there).

Oh, and another thought: IGCD's flip confirms he was bluffing. His first remarks were the truth and he was trying to see if he could confirm Wall scum. All I have from it is that this comment raised an eyebrow:
wallmasterz posted...

IGCD, how exactly does the semi capable backup part work? Does it refer to not being fully reliable? Because if youre serious, I assure youre wrong.

For some reason, I read this as if Wall knew IGCD's actual role name even though IGCD was claiming to have invented the "semi-competent" part.

Was Wall's first reaction - his very scummy D1 and D2 - the reality as well?

wallmasterz posted...

BCT, I need to ask you something.

What is it?

Also, I am currently thinking BCT, Death and Red as Town. Wallz and Ctes basically have to be scum at this stage and I expect Ulti is more likely scum than BCT but I'm not certain.