Board 8 > Blade Mafia 5 Topic 8: The Allmother of Seals

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I dont recall me changing my story.

And yes I dont think its 14 vs 4 either
But at this rate I am hoping the independent is merely a survivor who wins with either side so we can keep lynching scum, because otherwise we are sunk anyway.

That at least made me laugh.

UltimaterializerX posted...

So now youre sure theres an independent too huh.

I never said otherwise?

That at least explains why Ulti is so hung up on this 3rd party thing.

But it could also just be because he is on a 4 person scum team.

In any 3rd party discussion I should from everyone's POV still be possible. I guess it's possible I have been scanned or whatever scum might have. But it doesn't even matter.

Also again, everyone considering Death as scum has to think scum purposely ran Dumey over on day 2. Dumey's fakeclaim is torn to pieces by what Death has.

I suppose you will respond to the logical question of 'why would scum even day roleblock you?' with Oculams Razor as well.

I mean I certainly assumed 3rd party as soon as Wallz died and we lose.

*we didnt lose.

Amusing error there

Sheep went from already promising in advance to avenge Wallz by voting me (despite Wallz voting him in the end) to coming in seemingly undecided and then just dropping a vote.

He isn't town.

Ulti has been way too focused on finding 3rd party and keeps not making sense and clearing people from things that doesn't make sense.

He isn't town.

Both Death and BCT are only scum if Dumey was deliberately sacrificed or scum did a weird night of actions in hopes of having someone town confirmed. Neither is likely.

And now I feel like Ctes is trying to butter up to me
I mean I will say it, I have liked Sheep more than you all game Ctes.

Sheep has done a decent job looking better today but in a game like this you never ever try to plan three days ahead like that. It's manipulating people by giving them an idea of a path that is the same regardless of the flip. The vote at the time is totally anti town too. Probably because it's not town.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I answered this already. Theyre fishing for third party.

What about the inverse? 3rd party is fishing for scum?

Either way its weird that we havent heard of anyone else being dayblocked yet since it gives everyone a message.

It does at least clear up the weirdness around BCTs RB message

htaeD posted...

And now I feel like Ctes is trying to butter up to me
I mean I will say it, I have liked Sheep more than you all game Ctes.

I have literally had you at the top of my town list for many days. I have made this and the reason clear.

So you're saying BCT and Ulti got this message from the same source despite not having an action? Then where did it go all the other nights?

ctesjbuvf posted...

I have literally had you at the top of my town list for many days. I have made this and the reason clear.

Fair enough.

Dont worry I will give you a fair shake too. Just noting my leanings,

Also Sheep literally wasn't even in the game for days. I was barely either lol.

ctesjbuvf posted...

So you're saying BCT and Ulti got this message from the same source despite not having an action? Then where did it go all the other nights?

No I meant that as in apparently people will be told they are roleblocked regardless of their role this game

If Ulti or BCT isnt lying
We know they cant both be lying at this stage at least

I feel like if anyone is trying to be buttery, it's Ulti.

Anyway the 3rd party discussion is f***ing pointless. Sure there might be one if you look at the numbers, but it could be literally everyone then. The biggest town clears for Death and BCT don't apply to that, they just meant they weren't on a team with Dumey and the RBer respectively.

Fishing for them only has purpose for scum basically.

If Ulti is scum I can understand why he would need to pivot against me though.

I think it's more practical for him to just press me, honestly. BCT probably won't take much convincing.

I'm having fun trying to guess my own list lol.

BCT should talk more either way. I like him questioning things, but the silence after is less good.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I'm having fun trying to guess my own list lol.

I posted on the wrong topic.

htaeD posted...

No I meant that as in apparently people will be told they are roleblocked regardless of their role this game

I don't think you can draw that conclusion actually.

UltimaterializerX posted...

.youre confirmed town.

Are we reading the same game here?

I think reading the game indicates that everyone else disagrees that I'm confirmed town...

Sheep is literally not f***ing confirmed. That only worked if there had been three scum left. Death already admitted he would have mentioned the double vote if Sheep didnt, as if it wasn't obvious already.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Scum never claims blocked here, plus I could have ended the game a long time ago if I was. Im as close to confirmed town as it gets without a scan.

Not so sure how you could have ended the game already, and your claim of being blocked confuses me more than anything.

Either way I suppose Sheep voting Ctes has put the question of you on the backburner regardless.

Hey Ulti, theoretical question for you here.

If I claimed I was a survivor who wins with Town by default, but wins with Scum and doesn't die if they shoot me, would you believe that? And who would be the second scum with Ctes in that scenario?

ctesjbuvf posted...

I don't think you can draw that conclusion actually.

I suppose.
Maybe Ulti, if he is town, could be told because he still has a power?
I dont recall if BP status is roleblockable tho.

htaeD posted...

I suppose.
Maybe Ulti, if he is town, could be told because he still has a power?
I dont recall if BP status is roleblockable tho.

Ulti said he had to use it as a shot, if I recall. Should be blockable if so, that's pretty consistent with shot-based abilities

Plus if Sheep was confirmed town to Ulti, I dont know why he has not voted Ctes yet.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im not a vanilla, I just currently have no night actions.

That is why I used the word "technical" as a modifier.

75% of you four are scum because I refuse to believe this game was 14 vs 4. There is no chance.

Remember the wording of Red's role: "Anti-town." This implies there's more than one non-town faction.

The fact that you are fishing for third parties as opposed to scum doesn't make much sense to me. I don't understand why you'd want to track down a third-party Survivor. Doesn't that role win with town if alive at endgame?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Andy is only scum as a third party I think.

If I'm third party, that's news to me. My PM clearly said town.

ctesjbuvf posted...

So you're saying BCT and Ulti got this message from the same source despite not having an action? Then where did it go all the other nights?

My roleblock message was the end of the night. My receiving the item was the start of the night.

htaeD posted...

BCT should talk more either way. I like him questioning things, but the silence after is less good.

Sorry, dealing with this life shit. Will be on and off throughout the day.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Remember the wording of Red's role: "Anti-town." This implies there's more than one non-town faction.

Meh. Wallz' protection lasts into the day phase too. Doesn't mean there's a dayvig (or else we likely woulda seen it at this point.

It might mean something, but it's partially a matter of good role PM writing, so all bases are covered and players don't need to ask clarifying questions.

Sorry to hear it BCT

And Sheep is right about such texts covering all bases.
While 4 scum in 18 does also feel like too little scum to me, at this point we cant hunt independents.

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