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CableZL
10/10/23 5:42:58 PM
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https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1711859145215824172
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/congressman-george-santos-charged-conspiracy-wire-fraud-false-statements-0

He's now facing 23 charges

Still in Congress

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darkace77450
10/10/23 5:45:55 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, someone in his campaign just pleaded guilty to fraud a week or so ago. The fact that the GOP hasn't expelled him tells you all you need to know about their integrity.
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CableZL
10/10/23 5:52:44 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
If I'm not mistaken, someone in his campaign just pleaded guilty to fraud a week or so ago. The fact that the GOP hasn't expelled him tells you all you need to know about their integrity.
Yep. He's pretty much done.

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DrizztLink
10/10/23 5:53:19 PM
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What makes an indictment superseding?

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CableZL
10/10/23 5:56:29 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
What makes an indictment superseding?

It's when they add more charges to an existing case. He was already indicted on 8 criminal charges earlier this year. Now he's facing 23 charges that are similar/related. Still trying to find the actual indictment document to see exactly what the new charges are.

This was the original indictment: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23809076/george-santos-indictment.pdf

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DrizztLink
10/10/23 5:57:52 PM
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Groovy, thanks.

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CableZL
10/10/23 5:58:47 PM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-santos-charged-with-conspiracy-wire-fraud-and-more/

CBS has a summary of the charges.

Prosecutors filed a 23-count superseding indictment against the New York Republican in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York. Here are the charges he faces:
  • One count of conspiracy to commit offenses against the United States
  • Two counts of wire fraud
  • Two counts of making materially false statements to the Federal Election Commission (FEC)
  • Two counts of falsifying records submitted to obstruct the FEC
  • Two counts of aggravated identity theft
  • One count of access device fraud
These new counts have been added to the charges in the original indictment against him:
  • Seven counts of wire fraud
  • Three counts of money laundering
  • One count of theft of public funds
  • Two counts of making materially false statements to the United States House of Representatives


So yeah... given the fact that his treasurer plead guilty... He's screwed

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BewmHedshot
10/10/23 6:00:11 PM
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Can he go to jail now
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Irony
10/10/23 6:00:36 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
Can he go to jail now
Soon

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CableZL
10/10/23 6:02:03 PM
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The sad part is that his family bailed him out on the initial indictment even though they didn't have enough money to cover it... So they pretty much had to offer up property as collateral. The judge had to talk to them about how they're responsible for him and they need to make sure he stays in line to avoid losing what they have.

Now he'll have to be booked again and they may have to offer up more if they're going to cover for him again.

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Starks
10/10/23 6:03:22 PM
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I'm not surprised in the slightest. My congressman is an unrepentant piece of shit.

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realnifty1
10/10/23 6:04:53 PM
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I mean if you really think about, it's the Democrats fault.
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Starks
10/10/23 6:06:20 PM
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I might drive by his office in a few minutes and see if there's an impromptu protest.

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/10/23 6:09:22 PM
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Funny how almost all of the notable criminals in politics are Republican.

Almost like the party of law and order doesn't actually hold their own accountable

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Starks
10/10/23 6:13:42 PM
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I guess Santos rejected a plea deal after Marks pleaded guilty. Zeldin was also using Marks as a treasurer and he might be in trouble too.

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Kradek
10/10/23 6:15:47 PM
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Can't wait for this criminal sack of shit to finally meet the consequences he's been dodging his entire life.

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ArchonKnight
10/10/23 6:18:37 PM
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realnifty1 posted...
I mean if you really think about, it's the Democrats fault.

Especially obamna

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TomClark
10/10/23 6:20:28 PM
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This is no way to treat the inventor of the spork.

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CableZL
10/10/23 7:07:14 PM
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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24025128-santos-superseding-indictment

Indictment document is here

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Starks
10/10/23 7:17:38 PM
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I'm still going through it.

Company #1 is probably Redstone Strategies?

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Block_that_Kick
10/10/23 7:24:24 PM
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Perhaps the bail amount will be so much this time, his family cannot cover it, and he will be forced to sit in jail until trial.

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DrizztLink
10/10/23 7:25:48 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
Perhaps the bail amount will be so much this time, his family cannot cover it, and he will be forced to sit in jail until trial.
No, I want him to get a bail bond and then skip out on it.

It's the main piece of drama missing from this entire debacle.

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ThisIsAKnoife
10/10/23 7:27:35 PM
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Wake me up when there are any consequences to his actions

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Starks
10/10/23 7:40:07 PM
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Person #1: Unclear. Queens GOP or NY Young Republican leader?

Investment Firm #1: Harbor City Capital

National Part Committee #1: NRCC


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thronedfire2
10/10/23 7:41:47 PM
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I wonder how many republican reps knew about him and just wanted an R in the seat

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Starks
10/10/23 7:44:19 PM
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Nobody knew the whole story. He was just some weirdo in 2020 and 2022 was seen as a retread.

People just had different pieces and maybe a "wait, where did he and all this money come from".

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thronedfire2
10/10/23 7:46:31 PM
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Starks posted...
Nobody knew the whole story. He was just some weirdo in 2020 and 2022 was seen as a retread.

People just had different pieces and maybe a "wait, where did he and all this money come from".

there's no way the other reps are spending the money they do and not fully investigating the people they're against. a corrupt republican is still better than a democrat to them.

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Starks
10/10/23 7:57:12 PM
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The usual vetting process was skipped by both parties.

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Starks
10/10/23 8:13:14 PM
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I think Person #1 is Samuel Miele. Until this indictment, he was likely pleading guilty tomorrow to his own indictment for impersonating McCarthy staffers to get Santos donations.

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darkace77450
10/10/23 9:15:21 PM
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Starks posted...
I think Person #1 is Samuel Miele. Until this indictment, he was likely pleading guilty tomorrow to his own indictment for impersonating McCarthy staffers to get Santos donations.

I'd forgotten all about that. In a world where President Trump was a thing, Santos' story is still the craziest.
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ironman2009
10/10/23 9:16:11 PM
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this guy seems like an idiot.

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DnDer
10/10/23 9:21:07 PM
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CableZL posted...
Now he'll have to be booked again and they may have to offer up more if they're going to cover for him again.

I thought NY nuked bail for some non-violent felonies and most misdemeanors.

Did I remember wrong?

Because it's absolutely awful that his family could lose their home over his bad behavior. Or anyone.

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DnDer
10/10/23 9:22:48 PM
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realnifty1 posted...
I mean if you really think about, it's the Democrats fault.

I don't recognize you.

Are you joking and forgot to put and /s tag on your post, or are you the kind of poster who needs to be told to shut the fuck up?

Help me out. For my records.

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TheGoldenEel
10/10/23 9:27:40 PM
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DnDer posted...
I thought NY nuked bail for some non-violent felonies and most misdemeanors.

Did I remember wrong?

Because it's absolutely awful that his family could lose their home over his bad behavior. Or anyone.
I mean, they could have chosen not to offer up their home or whatever as collateral to help him

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CableZL
10/10/23 10:02:05 PM
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DnDer posted...
I thought NY nuked bail for some non-violent felonies and most misdemeanors.

Did I remember wrong?

Because it's absolutely awful that his family could lose their home over his bad behavior. Or anyone.
These are federal charges, so I believe the state's decision on bail wouldn't apply.

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Shotgunnova
10/10/23 10:08:07 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/4/AABhrNAAE3gy.jpg

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DnDer
10/10/23 10:24:15 PM
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CableZL posted...
These are federal charges, so I believe the state's decision on bail wouldn't apply.

Makes sense. I don't know what that didn't register in my head.

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divot1338
10/10/23 10:28:07 PM
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If his parents havent figured out hes an untrustworthy piece of shit who shouldnt be given money yet, its time they learned.

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Block_that_Kick
10/11/23 11:57:33 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/2/AADYzzAAE7Eu.jpg

https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1712127586124378293

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TomClark
10/11/23 12:03:46 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/2/AADYzzAAE7Eu.jpg

https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1712127586124378293

It turns out that he wasn't the first man to discover New Zealand after all?

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argonautweakend
10/11/23 12:11:15 PM
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Something seemed a little off about Santos. The district he is in was solid democrat for a decade, then this guy comes in and flips his district in one of the few races republicans actually got an upset win during the midterms.

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Block_that_Kick
10/11/23 12:19:29 PM
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And here it is. Probably the least of his problems right now.

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations /george-santos-is-the-only-member-of-congress-not-to-file- financial-disclosures/

Indicted freshman congressman and serial fabulist George Santos is the only member of Congress who has not yet filed his mandatory personal financial disclosure, a CREW analysis of filings provided by the Clerk of the House of Representatives has found. The documents absence is especially notable a month after the final deadline blew byand a week after the only other remaining House holdout filedbecause many of Santoss growing legal problems are centered on his
self-mythologizing about his own finances.


Santoss failure to file not only demonstrates a lack of respect for rules that exist to provide the public with information that can be used to identify serious conflicts of interest, but it also further obscures Santoss personal finances, which are at the center of a 13-count indictmentfrom May, alleging that Santos cheated donors, stole from his campaign and lied to Congress on previous financial disclosures he filed as a candidate. This month Santoss treasurer pleaded guilty to helping further his illegal schemesincluding a $500,000 loan Santos himself claimed to have given to his campaign when he only had less than $8,000 in the bankand Santos was hit this week with a 23-count superseding indictment which included accusations of pocketing campaign donors money.


There are significant possible penalties for knowingly failing to file an annual financial disclosure. Aside from a $200 late fee, the instructions members are given to file their annual financial reports notes that the Attorney General may pursue either civil or criminal penalties against an individual who knowingly and willfully falsifiesor fails to file the financial filings that are required under the Ethics in Government Act. The maximum civil and criminal penalty in such cases is $71,316, according to the document.


Santos himself has acknowledged that his report hasnt been filed, telling the AP last month that he would rather be late, accurate, and pay the fine than be on time, inaccurate, and suffer the consequences of a rushed job. However, far from rushing at this point, the filings were originally due in May, and Santos never filed to request an extension. Meanwhile, his fellow House members, some of whom have vastly complicated personal finances and net worths climbing into the hundreds of millions of dollars, have all managed to file the form detailing their assets, liabilities and transactions on time. For example, Rep. Darrell Issawho has a net worth of around $460 millionfiled his financial disclosure in July.

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FolkenRawr
10/11/23 12:37:16 PM
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The idea that these shitheads don't have the ability to produce their detailed financials within a few days tops is so insulting.

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BewmHedshot
10/11/23 12:44:35 PM
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DnDer posted...
I thought NY nuked bail for some non-violent felonies and most misdemeanors.

Did I remember wrong?

Because it's absolutely awful that his family could lose their home over his bad behavior. Or anyone.
Are we even sure those are his real family members?
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Block_that_Kick
10/11/23 12:46:52 PM
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DnDer posted...
I thought NY nuked bail for some non-violent felonies and most misdemeanors.

Did I remember wrong?

Because it's absolutely awful that his family could lose their home over his bad behavior. Or anyone.

These are federal charges.


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Block_that_Kick
10/11/23 2:02:08 PM
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1712148582478877061

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CADE_FOSTER
10/11/23 2:02:48 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1712148582478877061
man what it takes to actually hold republicans responsible for anything
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