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LightningAce11
10/09/23 11:23:02 PM
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https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1711553040157954156

What a dumb thing to do.

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Revisited
10/09/23 11:47:18 PM
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No he didn't

He literally more concerned with suing fans than finishing the books? Is this really the timeline we're living in?
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Bugmeat
10/09/23 11:50:10 PM
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He was just pissed because he read it and ChatGPT had a better story than anything he had written so far.


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lilORANG
10/09/23 11:51:19 PM
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Lol, what a loser

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FortuneCookie
10/09/23 11:52:35 PM
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When George R.R. Martin dies in 2032, that will be reposted as the official ending.
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dioxxys
10/09/23 11:55:08 PM
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I don't see the issue if it wasn't monetized.

Writing fanfiction isnt illegal.
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Blightzkrieg
10/09/23 11:56:34 PM
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Is he suing the fan or just chatgpt?

I can't see a real case for using the fan, it's fanfiction.

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10/10/23 10:02:44 AM
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faizan_faizan
10/10/23 11:46:33 AM
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What an idiot.

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Sariana21
10/10/23 11:50:37 AM
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faizan_faizan posted...
What an idiot.
Which one?

Or is that your point?

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Strider102
10/10/23 11:52:46 AM
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Bugmeat posted...
He was just pissed because he read it and ChatGPT had a better story than anything he had written so far.

This is probably the case

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Tyranthraxus
10/10/23 12:00:04 PM
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dioxxys posted...
I don't see the issue if it wasn't monetized.

Writing fanfiction isnt illegal.
It is a copyright violation though. People usually just don't bother attacking fans. Anne McCaffrey was notorious for shutting down fanart & fan fiction.

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Zeeak4444
10/10/23 12:09:21 PM
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wish I could have read it tbh

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Freddie_Mercury
10/10/23 12:09:54 PM
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https://winteriscoming.net/2023/07/21/game-of-thrones-fan-used-ai-write-the-winds-of-winter-dream-of-spring/2/

Okay, so having read some of these new versions of The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring, I have some big issues I havent seen mentioned yet, namely that, for as well as ChatGPT has absorbed the names of the characters, it doesnt seem to have read A Song of Ice and Fire.
By that I mean that nothing in this version of The Winds of Winter seems like its following up on the end of A Dance with Dragons. At the end of that book, Tyrion and Jorah were in Meereen about to fight the invading Yunkish armies as part of the Golden Company. But the first chapter of ChatGPTs The Winds of Winter has them on a boat on the Narrow Sea. Davos Seaworth and Brienne of Tarth are also there, for some reason. Theres a lot of jumping around in space and time.


cant wait for this shitty ai fad to die

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tremain07
10/10/23 12:38:59 PM
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Dude is never gonna finish it because the fucker ain't working on it, he's lost all interest in the IP outside of monetary gain and refuses to admit it because if people know it's over the interest will start to dry up and interest in him will dip. It's the same thing people who make games and won't let anybody help them with them but demand money on paterons do. Like the Yandere girlfriend guy he had no intentions of finishing that game ever but was find scamming fans for years pretending he was doing any work

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Hayame_Zero
10/10/23 12:40:21 PM
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Big Anne McMaffrey Energy

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Foppe
10/10/23 1:07:27 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
https://winteriscoming.net/2023/07/21/game-of-thrones-fan-used-ai-write-the-winds-of-winter-dream-of-spring/2/

cant wait for this shitty ai fad to die
And it is still better than what Martin thought of!

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mystic_belmont
10/10/23 1:11:22 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Dude is never gonna finish it because the fucker ain't working on it, he's lost all interest in the IP outside of monetary gain and refuses to admit it because if people know it's over the interest will start to dry up and interest in him will dip. It's the same thing people who make games and won't let anybody help them with them but demand money on paterons do. Like the Yandere girlfriend guy he had no intentions of finishing that game ever but was find scamming fans for years pretending he was doing any work

Pretty much.

I highly suspect that the ending D&D did was the ending Martin was going to do, but it got so much hate that what little energy he had left to write went away.

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ZevLoveDOOM
10/10/23 1:12:19 PM
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maybe if Georgey got off his ass and finished the damn book, fans wouldnt resort to ChatGPT to finish it...
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NittanyLions23
10/10/23 1:14:00 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
maybe if Georgey got off his ass and finished the damn book, fans wouldnt resort to ChatGPT to finish it...

pretty sure hes probably sitting on his ass while he writes the books.
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Anteaterking
10/10/23 1:15:29 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
maybe if Georgey got off his ass and finished the damn book, fans wouldnt resort to ChatGPT to finish it...

If all you want from your favorite book series is for someone, literally anyone to end it, then I feel like you're not actually a big fan of the series.

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Blightzkrieg
10/10/23 1:23:37 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
If all you want from your favorite book series is for someone, literally anyone to end it, then I feel like you're not actually a big fan of the series.
What kind of Bizarro gatekeeping is this lol

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Ricemills
10/10/23 1:29:09 PM
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If i were GRRM, i would claim that the AI work is similar to his planned work, and it will ruin people's expectations on the future books.
And then ask for more time to write the book because he have to start over.

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Proto_Spark
10/10/23 1:29:25 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
Pretty much.

I highly suspect that the ending D&D did was the ending Martin was going to do, but it got so much hate that what little energy he had left to write went away.

This. Though it's a shame, because IMO the ending on paper was fine. It just needed like 4 seasons to do the stuff that was run through in 4 episodes.
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MC_BatCommander
10/10/23 1:29:45 PM
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Wow he just is kind of a shitty person isn't he

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Anteaterking
10/10/23 1:29:53 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
What kind of Bizarro gatekeeping is this lol

How is it gatekeeping?

Presumably if I'm a fan of ASOIAF it's because I think George R.R. Martin is making writing choices that are better than a random fan (and what ChatGPT is doing is on the level of just a random fan making their own fan fiction) would make. Like I can't imagine being like "I hated how D&D ended things but I'm okay with a generative AI ending it" and feeling any sort of satisfaction.

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Seaman_Prime
10/11/23 10:53:56 AM
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Fucker can write up a cease and desist, but not his books.
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s0nicfan
10/11/23 10:55:51 AM
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mystic_belmont posted...
Pretty much.

I highly suspect that the ending D&D did was the ending Martin was going to do, but it got so much hate that what little energy he had left to write went away.

I thought it was long since confirmed that contractually he had to deliver and outline with an ending to HBO for them to even bother making the show. It's always been his ending. The question is just did D&D take the right path to get there? That might just be an old rumor, though.

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https://ew.com/article/2014/03/19/game-of-thrones-george-r-r-martin-ending/
Its a question George R.R. Martins fans have wondered for many years: Will the bestselling authors five-books-and-counting Song of Ice and Fire saga have a satisfying ending? Will the destination, not just the journey, pay off?

Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss know Martins planned final arcs of his as-yet-unwritten story. So we asked them.

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dioxxys
10/12/23 8:24:29 AM
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Seaman_Prime posted...
Fucker can write up a cease and desist, but not his books.
He probably has lawyers who do that
Maybe the lawyer can write the book.
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