Current Events > The media really needs to start talking about Trumps mental instability.

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 6:51:35 PM
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1710736210828665170?t=eGF6wNENu8z9X2i5w-IMEA&s=19

Here he is saying something that didn't happen, actually happened. I feel like he's constantly doing things like this and nobody in the establishment media bats an eye or talks about it. He's clearly suffering from some sort of mental disorder here. This isn't an isolated incident either, he's made many incorrect claims for a while now. Remember him talking about needing an ID to purchase groceries?

He's clearly lost it, if he ever actually had it. Only someone who should be under psychiatric care would be constantly saying things that only someone in an alternate reality would believe.

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archizzy
10/07/23 6:56:15 PM
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I honestly don't think it is a mental disorder. I think he just blatantly lies a lot.

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boomgetchopped3
10/07/23 6:58:24 PM
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It would be impossible to keep up with every lie he tells
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mybbqrules
10/07/23 7:01:31 PM
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1. God, what a rambling old fart he is. Blah blah blah blah blah blah fucking blah.

2. Trump lying isn't because of mental instability. It's because he's a malignant narcissist who can never be wrong about anything, so he creates a fake reality to salve his ego, because deep down he knows he's a worthless piece of shit that would be selling used cars off the Jersey turnpike if not for his daddy's millions.

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Southernfatman
10/07/23 7:02:22 PM
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It should. Too bad the media is in Republicans' pockets.

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Humble_Novice
10/07/23 7:07:06 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
It should. Too bad the media is in Republicans' pockets.
This is why we need media outlets that cater specifically to us.

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Nirvanas_Nox
10/07/23 7:08:38 PM
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Him gaslighting people isn't a mental disorder. I'm more shocked that he's out walking around when he should be in jail like any other normal person.

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 7:09:33 PM
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archizzy posted...
he just blatantly lies

This. He also suffers from stupidity, but that's not a mental disorder either.

Anyway, we should really refrain from "diagnosing" public figures with mental/neurological disorders on the basis of their tv appearances. It's not like you have any window into their health from it, and you're really just pushing bad stigma and stereotypes, usually.

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 7:13:16 PM
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I mean rampant lying is also a mental disorder.

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loafy013
10/07/23 7:20:43 PM
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Psuedo_Audacity posted...
Anyway, we should really refrain from "diagnosing" public figures with mental/neurological disorders on the basis of their tv appearances. It's not like you have any window into their health from it, and you're really just pushing bad stigma and stereotypes, usually.
Unless your name is Joe Biden. Then it seems to be perfectly acceptable for the media to speculate on supposed "disorders" he has and, in fact, it would be unprofessional for them to not bring it up.

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ReiRei89
10/07/23 7:22:07 PM
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He's a fat fuck who lies a lot and probably cannot tell what's a lie anymore because his head is always up his ass.

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 7:27:53 PM
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loafy013 posted...
Unless your name is Joe Biden. Then it seems to be perfectly acceptable for the media to speculate on supposed "disorders" he has and, in fact, it would be unprofessional for them to not bring it up.

It's especially fucked the way the right-wing media misrepresents this by taking little tiny 20-30 second clips and blasting them to all their followers.

Anyway, in any case, the rule applies to all public figures.

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Enclave
10/07/23 7:29:49 PM
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I've been convinced for many years now that he's a pathological liar.

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BombermanGold
10/07/23 7:30:07 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
I mean rampant lying is also a mental disorder.

Unlike a small subset of habitual pathological liars, Agent Orange knows full well he's telling said lies in public, so he doesn't appear "weak" and to keep his ego up high.

There's already enough out there that in private or near people who are good listeners, he knows the facts about everything are against him.

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 7:34:06 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
I mean rampant lying is also a mental disorder.

You shouldn't double down on this. You have no insight into somebody's mental state by seeing them in a very artificial environment for a very brief amount of time where their behavior is highly restricted and planned.

While you might think it's a nice dig, it's spreading stigma. And it's completely without merit on top of that.

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 7:34:46 PM
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BombermanGold posted...
Unlike a small subset of habitual pathological liars, Agent Orange knows full well he's telling said lies in public, so he doesn't appear "weak" and to keep his ego up high.

There's already enough out there that in private or near people who are good listeners, he knows the facts about everything are against him.
And if the media treated his rampant lying, which is a mental disorder, as a mental disorder, it'd change the narrative.

"Donald Trump's mental faculties appear to be waning as he again can't stop himself from making things up on the fly." should be how the media covers Trump.

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Tyranthraxus
10/07/23 7:36:38 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
Here he is saying something that didn't happen, actually happened

Wisconsin is one of the three states that was singled out by Trump in late 2020 as part of Stop The Steal. It's less that he's "mentally gone" and more that he's still repeating the same lies for the last 3 years.

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GeraldDarko
10/07/23 7:36:55 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
I mean rampant lying is also a mental disorder.
No, it's a symptom of other disorders.

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The_shibe
10/07/23 7:38:53 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1710736210828665170?t=eGF6wNENu8z9X2i5w-IMEA&s=19

Here he is saying something that didn't happen, actually happened. I feel like he's constantly doing things like this and nobody in the establishment media bats an eye or talks about it. He's clearly suffering from some sort of mental disorder here. This isn't an isolated incident either, he's made many incorrect claims for a while now. Remember him talking about needing an ID to purchase groceries?

He's clearly lost it, if he ever actually had it. Only someone who should be under psychiatric care would be constantly saying things that only someone in an alternate reality would believe.

but sLeEpY jOe dEmEnTiA

the media wont touch this with a 10 foot pole because they went trump to win, so they can get more tax breaks


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ClayGuida
10/07/23 7:39:10 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Wisconsin is one of the three states that was singled out by Trump in late 2020 as part of Stop The Steal. It's less that he's "mentally gone" and more that he's still repeating the same lies for the last 3 years.
No, he explicitly says that he was announced the winner of Wisconsin after the election was over.

He's not pushing the Big Lie here. He's saying that something that didn't happen, happened. Nobody came out and said he won Wisconsin.

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sfcalimari
10/07/23 7:46:07 PM
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Yeah but dementia sleepy joe

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thronedfire2
10/07/23 7:46:58 PM
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his supporters literally don't care what the truth is

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Nirvanas_Nox
10/07/23 8:17:35 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
No, he explicitly says that he was announced the winner of Wisconsin after the election was over.

He's not pushing the Big Lie here. He's saying that something that didn't happen, happened. Nobody came out and said he won Wisconsin.

And that's gaslighting. Hey may have a mental disorder but I don't know him so I can't make that judgement. All we know for sure is that he's a liar. Until he makes it public that he does have a disorder (which he never will) that's the only thing we can accurately say about him.

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 8:26:03 PM
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Nirvanas_Nox posted...
And that's gaslighting. Hey may have a mental disorder but I don't know him so I can't make that judgement. All we know for sure is that he's a liar. Until he makes it public that he does have a disorder (which he never will) that's the only thing we can accurately say about him.
That's still not him repeating the Big Lie. He's creating a new lie. The Big Lie is that he won elections until fake votes were counted. This is him saying that he was declared the winner after the election was over. Two completely different lies.

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Tmaster148
10/07/23 8:26:28 PM
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If the media starts calling Trump mentally instable without Trump being diagnosed as such, that opens a libel/slander lawsuit against them.


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ClayGuida
10/07/23 8:27:45 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
If the media starts calling Trump mentally instable without Trump being diagnosed as such, that opens a libel/slander lawsuit against them.
It'd also force him to provide documental proof that he doesn't have donkey brains.

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 8:28:26 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
That's still not him repeating the Big Lie. He's creating a new lie. The Big Lie is that he won elections until fake votes were counted. This is him saying that he was declared the winner after the election was over. Two completely different lies.

He was declared a winner after the election. By all of his sycophantic leeches in congress and in the media.

I get the feeling that you see the dementia joe narrative as successful and feel like fighting fire with fire is the right move.

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xlr_big-coop
10/07/23 8:29:40 PM
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So long as the media covers Biden's decaying mental state, you know, to keep things fair.

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Heineken14
10/07/23 8:31:15 PM
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xlr_big-coop posted...
So long as the media covers Biden's decaying mental state, you know, to keep things fair.


Phew, well that's already out of the way! Now they just need to talk about Donnie's ACTUAL decaying mental state!

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 8:32:26 PM
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Psuedo_Audacity posted...
He was declared a winner after the election. By all of his sycophantic leeches in congress and in the media.

I get the feeling that you see the dementia joe narrative as successful and feel like fighting fire with fire is the right move.
I think someone who is mentally incapable of living in reality, needs to be called out on it.

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GeraldDarko
10/07/23 8:32:29 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
That's still not him repeating the Big Lie. He's creating a new lie. The Big Lie is that he won elections until fake votes were counted. This is him saying that he was declared the winner after the election was over. Two completely different lies.
Why do you think you're the only one that sees it as an issue with his cognitive ability? Why wouldn't the campaign experts that are trained to find and attack an weakness in an opponent latch on to this?

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 8:33:48 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
I think someone who is mentally incapable of living in reality, needs to be called out on it.

Sounds more like you think it's good political strategy, damned be the harm to patients and psychiatric medicine.

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 8:37:23 PM
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Psuedo_Audacity posted...
Sounds more like you think it's good political strategy, damned be the harm to patients and psychiatric medicine.
Or I think the media needs to have a long discussion about the mental degradation of the leading Republican candidate.

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 8:38:53 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
Or I think the media needs to have a long discussion about the mental degradation of the leading Republican candidate.

So you think you know more about psychology than the APA, and the psychologists that run it, which has explicit guidelines against professionals diagnosing public figures based on public appearances?

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Kradek
10/07/23 8:39:10 PM
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archizzy posted...
I honestly don't think it is a mental disorder. I think he just blatantly lies a lot.

The difference is in what he's been lying about lately. Like when he was talking about how he beat Jeb Bush, yet ascribed George W. Bush's military history to Jeb and when he claims he beat Obama in past elections.

He gains no real advantage from these as lies as it can't be spun into "what he actually meant was x! Salty libs are in tears!", it just makes him look seriously mentally ill.

Tmaster148 posted...
If the media starts calling Trump mentally instable without Trump being diagnosed as such, that opens a libel/slander lawsuit against them.

No it doesn't. Libel laws against a public figure are extremely difficult to prove and Trump is one of the most public figures alive.

And they wouldn't have to do anything different than talk like they do about Biden's age and "people worry he may not be all mentally there", which they have no problem spreading.

The difference of course being it's way more applicable to Trump.

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Heineken14
10/07/23 8:39:41 PM
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Psuedo_Audacity posted...


So you think you know more about psychology than the APA, and the psychologists that run it, which has explicit guidelines against professionals diagnosing public figures based on public appearances?


Are pundits professional psychologists?

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 8:40:30 PM
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Psuedo_Audacity posted...
So you think you know more about psychology than the APA, and the psychologists that run it, which has explicit guidelines against professionals diagnosing public figures based on public appearances?
I think I know more about height and weight than the former White House doctor who said Trump was 6'3 and weighed 230 lbs.

If it doesn't pass the eye test, it's likely a lie. Trump is mentally deficient. Whether it's his addictions, his health, or simply age, there's a huge problem happening with Trump's degrading brain. That may not be a problem to you, but it's up to the media to tell the public these facts and let them decide, not just refuse to report on it.

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 8:40:50 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Are pundits professional psychologists?

So you're saying it's okay for even less capable individuals to do flawed diagnosing in the public sphere? Idk what this argument is.

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 8:42:44 PM
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Psuedo_Audacity posted...
So you're saying it's okay for even less capable individuals to do flawed diagnosing in the public sphere? Idk what this argument is.
If you're watching a homeless man say the same shit as Trump, you'd be just calling him a crazy person on the side of the road. But because he's someone you feel the need to defend, you don't care.

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 8:43:25 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
If you're watching a homeless man say the same shit as Trump, you'd be just calling him a crazy person on the side of the road. But because he's someone you feel the need to defend, you don't care.

I certainly don't feel the need to defend Trump lmao.

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The_shibe
10/07/23 8:45:06 PM
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xlr_big-coop posted...
So long as the media covers Biden's decaying mental state, you know, to keep things fair.

I am suuurreeee you bring up trumps mental state when Biden is criticized, right? Right?

oh so youre just bOtH sIdEs-ing here. Good to know

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GeraldDarko
10/07/23 8:45:41 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
If you're watching a homeless man say the same shit as Trump, you'd be just calling him a crazy person on the side of the road. But because he's someone you feel the need to defend, you don't care.
Generally, that homeless guy isn't raving and lying about things that further their goals. Usually, it's nonsense.

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 8:46:17 PM
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Psuedo_Audacity posted...
I certainly don't feel the need to defend Trump lmao.
Yet you've done it for what, 7 posts now? Out of your 11 total active posts. Seems like a huge investment.

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Psuedo_Audacity
10/07/23 8:47:05 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
Yet you've done it for what, 6 posts now?

No, I've fought against using the stigma of mental illness as a political tool.

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ClayGuida
10/07/23 8:47:40 PM
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Psuedo_Audacity posted...
No, I've fought against using the stigma of mental illness as a political tool.
Acknowledging there's a problem is the first step.

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GeraldDarko
10/07/23 8:48:04 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
Yet you've done it for what, 6 posts now?
Did you hear Trump killed an entire kindergarten class with his bare hands.

That never happened

Stop standing up for Trump!

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Kradek
10/07/23 8:49:01 PM
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GeraldDarko posted...
Generally, that homeless guy isn't raving and lying about things that further their goals. Usually, it's nonsense.

Which is what Trump's been doing as well lately. He's talked about things like windmills on land killing whales, ascribed George W Bush's military record to Jeb Bush, and claimed he beat both GWB and Obama in elections.

None of that furthers his goals, even the biggest shit-for-brain cultists know that's just dumb nonsense detached from reality.

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