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SomeGuyUO 10/04/23 5:27:51 PM #1:	of for audio equipment. Sad. <cite>SomeGuyUO posted [p:976477364] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>of for audio equipment. Sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnsestralRecall 10/04/23 5:29:37 PM #2:	Oh no, music is being made for things people own instead of expensive artifacts of the past! What a tragedy <cite>AnsestralRecall posted [p:976477404] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Oh no, music is being made for things people own instead of expensive artifacts of the past! What a tragedy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neccis 10/04/23 5:33:09 PM #3:	AnsestralRecall posted... Oh no, music is being made for things people own instead of expensive artifacts of the past! What a tragedy What a stupid thing to say --- PSN: SlCCEN splits open to reveal jam <cite>neccis posted [p:976477459] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>AnsestralRecall posted... </cite><quote>Oh no, music is being made for things people own instead of expensive artifacts of the past! What a tragedy</quote>What a stupid thing to say </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ar0ge 10/04/23 5:45:09 PM #4:	AnsestralRecall posted... Oh no, music is being made for things people own instead of expensive artifacts of the past! What a tragedy No offense, but this really is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. <cite>Ar0ge posted [p:976477652] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>AnsestralRecall posted... </cite><quote>Oh no, music is being made for things people own instead of expensive artifacts of the past! What a tragedy</quote>No offense, but this really is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnsestralRecall 10/04/23 5:47:01 PM #5:	neccis posted... What a stupid thing to say Most people don't have dedicated audio equipment so the vast majority of (mainstream) music being produced isn't going to be made with stereo equipment and speakers in mind They might keep in mind mid-range ear buds and maybe headphones, but thats about it. <cite>AnsestralRecall posted [p:976477681] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>neccis posted... </cite><quote>What a stupid thing to say</quote>Most people don't have dedicated audio equipment so the vast majority of (mainstream) music being produced isn't going to be made with stereo equipment and speakers in mindThey might keep in mind mid-range ear buds and maybe headphones, but thats about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 10/04/23 5:48:16 PM #6:	Does being mastered for phone speakers just mean less effort and quality --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:976477703] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Does being mastered for phone speakers just mean less effort and quality </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MatzoTov 10/04/23 5:52:11 PM #7:	neccis posted... What a stupid thing to say Ar0ge posted... this really is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while. ...What? He's right. --- Sigless by choice <cite>MatzoTov posted [p:976477777] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>neccis posted... </cite><quote>What a stupid thing to say</quote>Ar0ge posted... </cite><quote>this really is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while.</quote>...What? He's right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeteyParker 10/04/23 5:53:48 PM #8:	If most of your audience is listening to music a certain way it makes sense to master it so it sounds great on that, especially when that same audience won't hesitate to complain about it all over social media if it sounds bad. --- "How can.. the Prime minister.. support a law.. that makes it illegal for people.. who....What I'm trying to say is.. Oasis rules!" <cite>PeteyParker posted [p:976477805] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>If most of your audience is listening to music a certain way it makes sense to master it so it sounds great on that, especially when that same audience won't hesitate to complain about it all over social media if it sounds bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SimulationSwarm 10/04/23 5:54:16 PM #9:	What exactly are we even talking about here --- Np: Big Thief - Simulation Swarm <cite>SimulationSwarm posted [p:976477813] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>What exactly are we even talking about here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 10/04/23 5:54:29 PM #10:	Shouldnt you be buying physical for your hifi setup generally? <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:976477818] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Shouldnt you be buying physical for your hifi setup generally?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoZguy709 10/04/23 5:55:39 PM #11:	Doe posted... Does being mastered for phone speakers just mean less effort and quality It probably means maximizing the desired frequencies coming out of those speakers so that the song won't sound like crap to other people being subjected to the music being played on the person's phone. I listen to most music on cheap USB computer speakers, headphones, or non-fancy car speakers, but I'd much rather that music for the most part be produced so that it can sound best when played on the optimal sound system, which phone and ear buds are not. Hopefully there will still be a strong market for music mastered for higher grade equipment through Tidal and the other high-end streaming companies, but I don't really know how the industry works or what big market incentives are currently in place. <cite>LoZguy709 posted [p:976477835] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Does being mastered for phone speakers just mean less effort and quality</quote>It probably means maximizing the desired frequencies coming out of those speakers so that the song won't sound like crap to other people being subjected to the music being played on the person's phone.I listen to most music on cheap USB computer speakers, headphones, or non-fancy car speakers, but I'd much rather that music for the most part be produced so that it can sound best when played on the optimal sound system, which phone and ear buds are not. Hopefully there will still be a strong market for music mastered for higher grade equipment through Tidal and the other high-end streaming companies, but I don't really know how the industry works or what big market incentives are currently in place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 10/04/23 5:55:50 PM #12:	Waaah businesses are making money off what they know people spend money on. Don't like it? Topple capitalism. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976477840] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Waaah businesses are making money off what they know people spend money on. Don't like it?Topple capitalism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/04/23 5:56:25 PM #13:	This is about loudness levels more than anything else. Spotify listeners don't want a big jump, or reduction, in volume between songs. And those mixing and mastering music in the studio have always considered how it sounds on popular equipment. Good equipment for physical media, or hi res streaming, will always sound better than Spotify on your phone. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976477853] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>This is about loudness levels more than anything else. Spotify listeners don't want a big jump, or reduction, in volume between songs.And those mixing and mastering music in the studio have always considered how it sounds on popular equipment.Good equipment for physical media, or hi res streaming, will always sound better than Spotify on your phone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarthGoomba 10/04/23 5:58:13 PM #14:	Mainstream music is doodoo anyway so how it's mastered isn't going to make a difference Just listen to Touhou stuff, most of which is mastered extremely competently --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:976477889] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Mainstream music is doodoo anyway so how it's mastered isn't going to make a differenceJust listen to Touhou stuff, most of which is mastered extremely competently </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnsestralRecall 10/04/23 5:59:55 PM #15:	MarthGoomba posted... Just listen to Touhou stuff no <cite>AnsestralRecall posted [p:976477915] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>MarthGoomba posted... </cite><quote>Just listen to Touhou stuff</quote>no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 10/04/23 6:00:32 PM #16:	Video games are being made to take advantage of the highest PC specs and best console hardware. Shouldn't music be the same? --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:976477929] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Video games are being made to take advantage of the highest PC specs and best console hardware. Shouldn't music be the same? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/04/23 6:04:47 PM #17:	Heavy_D_Forever posted... Video games are being made to take advantage of the highest PC specs and best console hardware. Shouldn't music be the same? Video games are also made so that they can be played tolerably well on a less than ideal set up. And it's more or less the same thing with music. It is still going to sound much, much better on your audiophile gear than it will on your phone. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976478000] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Heavy_D_Forever posted... </cite><quote>Video games are being made to take advantage of the highest PC specs and best console hardware. Shouldn't music be the same?</quote>Video games are also made so that they can be played tolerably well on a less than ideal set up.And it's more or less the same thing with music. It is still going to sound much, much better on your audiophile gear than it will on your phone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 10/04/23 6:05:26 PM #18:	Heavy_D_Forever posted... Video games are being made to take advantage of the highest PC specs and best console hardware. Shouldn't music be the same? I see your logic but they are pretty different markets. Most music consumers don't buy stuff to experience the latest developments in audio quality. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:976478011] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Heavy_D_Forever posted... </cite><quote>Video games are being made to take advantage of the highest PC specs and best console hardware. Shouldn't music be the same?</quote>I see your logic but they are pretty different markets. Most music consumers don't buy stuff to experience the latest developments in audio quality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/04/23 6:06:22 PM #19:	Music today have better bass --- I'm a Taurus. Currently playing: Baldurs Gate 3, Nancy Drew series, DMC 3:SE (Modded), & Spyro 3.5: Return to the Forgotten Realms He/Him <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:976478028] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Music today have better bass </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/04/23 6:09:03 PM #20:	Ratchetrockon posted... Music today have better bass Mastering for Spotify means less bass boost, less treble. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976478072] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Ratchetrockon posted... </cite><quote>Music today have better bass </quote>Mastering for Spotify means less bass boost, less treble. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 10/04/23 6:09:23 PM #21:	Doe posted... I see your logic but they are pretty different markets. Most music consumers don't buy stuff to experience the latest developments in audio quality. And gamers do? Look at Steam hardware reports. GTX 10 series is still dominating the graphs. Switch is the third highest selling game console of all time. Steam Deck is incredibly popular. Most people don't want high end, they want accessible. Which is what audio producers are doing. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976478084] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>I see your logic but they are pretty different markets. Most music consumers don't buy stuff to experience the latest developments in audio quality.</quote>And gamers do? Look at Steam hardware reports. GTX 10 series is still dominating the graphs. Switch is the third highest selling game console of all time. Steam Deck is incredibly popular. Most people don't want high end, they want accessible. Which is what audio producers are doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 10/04/23 6:12:59 PM #22:	AnsestralRecall posted... Most people don't have dedicated audio equipment so the vast majority of (mainstream) music being produced isn't going to be made with stereo equipment and speakers in mind They might keep in mind mid-range ear buds and maybe headphones, but thats about it. Cars and Bluetooth speakers --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:976478133] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>AnsestralRecall posted... </cite><quote>Most people don't have dedicated audio equipment so the vast majority of (mainstream) music being produced isn't going to be made with stereo equipment and speakers in mindThey might keep in mind mid-range ear buds and maybe headphones, but thats about it.</quote>Cars and Bluetooth speakers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 10/04/23 6:14:02 PM #23:	Waxitron_Gazer posted... And gamers do? Look at Steam hardware reports. GTX 10 series is still dominating the graphs. Switch is the third highest selling game console of all time. Steam Deck is incredibly popular. Most people don't want high end, they want accessible. Which is what audio producers are doing. A ton of videogame marketing is about advances in technology, yes. PS5 SSD is a recent example. Ratchet & Clank was sold on the instant loading speed of switching dimensions. A lot of gamers may not get their hands on the latest cards (and current numbers are skewed by the supply issues with advanced cards in recent years), but they certainly think about them. Music is fundamentally different on that front, you don't buy the newest Drake album or Beats by Dre headphones because of the state of the technology, you do it because you like the artist's style or the branding. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:976478153] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Waxitron_Gazer posted... </cite><quote>And gamers do? Look at Steam hardware reports. GTX 10 series is still dominating the graphs. Switch is the third highest selling game console of all time. Steam Deck is incredibly popular. Most people don't want high end, they want accessible. Which is what audio producers are doing.</quote>A ton of videogame marketing is about advances in technology, yes. PS5 SSD is a recent example. Ratchet & Clank was sold on the instant loading speed of switching dimensions. A lot of gamers may not get their hands on the latest cards (and current numbers are skewed by the supply issues with advanced cards in recent years), but they certainly think about them. Music is fundamentally different on that front, you don't buy the newest Drake album or Beats by Dre headphones because of the state of the technology, you do it because you like the artist's style or the branding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/04/23 6:19:13 PM #24:	I can't remember the last time I saw someone with Beats. They were everywhere a few years ago, then vanished. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976478224] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>I can't remember the last time I saw someone with Beats.They were everywhere a few years ago, then vanished. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 10/04/23 6:19:13 PM #25:	Doe posted... you don't buy the newest Drake album or Beats by Dre headphones because of the state of the technology, you do it because you like the artist's style or the branding. ok, and if the music is mastered for the newest beats by dre headphones, how is that any different than if videogames are marketed as seamless loading, like ratchet & clank? they're both taking advantage of what's on the market and what's hot. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976478225] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>you don't buy the newest Drake album or Beats by Dre headphones because of the state of the technology, you do it because you like the artist's style or the branding.</quote>ok, and if the music is mastered for the newest beats by dre headphones, how is that any different than if videogames are marketed as seamless loading, like ratchet & clank?they're both taking advantage of what's on the market and what's hot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/04/23 6:19:22 PM #26:	ai123 posted... Mastering for Spotify means less bass boost, less treble. --- I'm a Taurus. Currently playing: Baldurs Gate 3, Nancy Drew series, DMC 3:SE (Modded), & Spyro 3.5: Return to the Forgotten Realms He/Him <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:976478229] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>Mastering for Spotify means less bass boost, less treble.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 10/04/23 6:30:35 PM #27:	Waxitron_Gazer posted... they're both taking advantage of what's on the market and what's hot. well yeah, but that's not really in contention. The difference is you don't need to buy a certain hardware set of headphones to listen to a certain song, and your library of songs isn't limited by your hardware set of headphones. Music consumers don't have an expectation that they need a pair of Beats to appreciate Dre's new album. There's a significant market of both say AirPods users and over-ear headphone users, and music distributors want both groups to know their equipment is just fine. Meanwhile you have the developers of Starfield throwing shade at players' hardware for reporting performance issues. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:976478412] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Waxitron_Gazer posted... </cite><quote>they're both taking advantage of what's on the market and what's hot.</quote>well yeah, but that's not really in contention. The difference is you don't need to buy a certain hardware set of headphones to listen to a certain song, and your library of songs isn't limited by your hardware set of headphones. Music consumers don't have an expectation that they need a pair of Beats to appreciate Dre's new album. There's a significant market of both say AirPods users and over-ear headphone users, and music distributors want both groups to know their equipment is just fine. Meanwhile you have the developers of Starfield throwing shade at players' hardware for reporting performance issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 10/04/23 6:31:56 PM #28:	that's literally the exact same thing and you just admitted it in far more words. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976478429] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>that's literally the exact same thing and you just admitted it in far more words. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 10/04/23 6:34:54 PM #29:	you CAN play starfield on bad equipment. dude was just saying you may need to upgrade if you want the experience as they intended. which is exactly what music producers are doing. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976478469] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>you CAN play starfield on bad equipment. dude was just saying you may need to upgrade if you want the experience as they intended. which is exactly what music producers are doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 10/04/23 6:36:43 PM #30:	People listening to music from phones aren't going to know shit from apples either way. Stop turning good stuff into corn syrup. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:976478496] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>People listening to music from phones aren't going to know shit from apples either way. Stop turning good stuff into corn syrup. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 10/04/23 6:37:07 PM #31:	Waxitron_Gazer posted... that's literally the exact same thing and you just admitted it in far more words. I think you're stuck on "both game devs and music devs are responding to the market", which as I said is trivially true. The difference is game devs intentionally push hardware such that you literally can't play a modern game on an older system, and this is desirable by gamers. You originally responded to me in post #21 by disagreeing that gamers look to buy newer technology to enjoy innovations in games that their old tech can't play. I'm telling you it's true for a significant number of gamers in a way that simply isn't for music listeners. On top of that, gamers with weaker hardware generally still aspire to have more updated hardware, while music listeners are often skeptical of the hi-fi niche. Waxitron_Gazer posted... which is exactly what music producers are doing. It quite literally isn't. The premise of the topic is music producers are targeting more widespread, less powerful/precise audio equipment. If it was the same, then the Starfield devs would be throwing shade at people with a 4090 for feeling that the graphics aren't next-gen enough. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:976478505] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Waxitron_Gazer posted... </cite><quote>that's literally the exact same thing and you just admitted it in far more words.</quote>I think you're stuck on "both game devs and music devs are responding to the market", which as I said is trivially true. The difference is game devs intentionally push hardware such that you literally can't play a modern game on an older system, and this is desirable by gamers.You originally responded to me in post #21 by disagreeing that gamers look to buy newer technology to enjoy innovations in games that their old tech can't play. I'm telling you it's true for a significant number of gamers in a way that simply isn't for music listeners. On top of that, gamers with weaker hardware generally still aspire to have more updated hardware, while music listeners are often skeptical of the hi-fi niche.Waxitron_Gazer posted... </cite><quote>which is exactly what music producers are doing.</quote>It quite literally isn't. The premise of the topic is music producers are targeting more widespread, less powerful/precise audio equipment. If it was the same, then the Starfield devs would be throwing shade at people with a 4090 for feeling that the graphics aren't next-gen enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArsGoetia 10/04/23 6:39:06 PM #32:	you can buy USB speakers with a low end subwoofer for like $20 at any dept store and it will change your fuckin world will never listen to music without a sub ever again <cite>ArsGoetia posted [p:976478530] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>you can buy USB speakers with a low end subwoofer for like $20 at any dept store and it will change your fuckin world will never listen to music without a sub ever again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 10/04/23 6:40:35 PM #33:	that's a stretch and you know it. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976478550] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>that's a stretch and you know it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cephalopods 10/04/23 6:41:44 PM #34:	Doe posted... Does being mastered for phone speakers just mean less effort and quality Yes I'm just glad we've gotten past the loudness wars <cite>Cephalopods posted [p:976478565] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Does being mastered for phone speakers just mean less effort and quality</quote>YesI'm just glad we've gotten past the loudness wars </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 10/04/23 6:45:05 PM #35:	Waxitron_Gazer posted... that's a stretch and you know it. Could you elaborate and not just declare I'm arguing in bad faith? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:976478619] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Waxitron_Gazer posted... </cite><quote>that's a stretch and you know it.</quote>Could you elaborate and not just declare I'm arguing in bad faith? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/04/23 6:48:48 PM #36:	AnsestralRecall posted... Oh no, music is being made for things people own instead of expensive artifacts of the past! What a tragedy --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:976478668] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>AnsestralRecall posted... </cite><quote>Oh no, music is being made for things people own instead of expensive artifacts of the past! What a tragedy</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/04/23 6:50:33 PM #37:	Wasn't Thriller mastered for car speakers? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:976478690] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't Thriller mastered for car speakers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 10/04/23 6:53:05 PM #38:	Questionmarktarius posted... Wasn't Thriller mastered for car speakers? it was mastered for a fisher price boys bedroom stereo <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:976478718] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Wasn't Thriller mastered for car speakers?</quote>it was mastered for a fisher price boys bedroom stereo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 10/04/23 6:55:25 PM #39:	Doe posted... Could you elaborate and not just declare I'm arguing in bad faith? I don't think you've created a convincing enough argument to be in bad faith tbh. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976478753] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Could you elaborate and not just declare I'm arguing in bad faith?</quote>I don't think you've created a convincing enough argument to be in bad faith tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 10/04/23 6:57:44 PM #40:	I have a sound bar w/woofer on my TV to listen to music and its great. Shoulda got one years ago. --- Unless you're Miles Davis, there is some other brotha' smoother than you. <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:976478783] in music toda... [t:80585308]...</cite> <quote>I have a sound bar w/woofer on my TV to listen to music and its great. Shoulda got one years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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