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09/26/23 2:01:25 AM
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Humble_Novice
09/26/23 3:50:11 AM
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In before people whine about Trump not going to jail.

https://twitter.com/MaryLTrump/status/1706415513595945246
https://twitter.com/mmpadellan/status/1706394430876553605
https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1706400281624289405

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pikakaeru
09/26/23 3:53:33 AM
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We got em this time!

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Smashingpmkns
09/26/23 3:55:57 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/0/AAPstsAAE37I.jpg

Lmao

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Quezovercoatl
09/26/23 3:58:50 AM
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pikakaeru posted...
We got em this time!
You really don't find his behavior at all concerning?
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pikakaeru
09/26/23 4:00:45 AM
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Quezovercoatl posted...
You really don't find his behavior at all concerning?
I just doubt anything will come of this.

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Quezovercoatl
09/26/23 4:04:54 AM
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But that particular meme is used to convey shit-eating glee that you don't think anything will happen.
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pikakaeru
09/26/23 4:11:19 AM
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oh

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Quezovercoatl
09/26/23 4:20:32 AM
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Also I'm fairly certain I've seen you specifically post it before.
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winged_weltall
09/26/23 4:23:28 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/0/AAPstsAAE37I.jpg

Lmao

lmao indeed, but I can imagine Trump's security detail might have a thing or two to say if he held the gun next to Trump properly.
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Bandit_Keith
09/26/23 4:26:35 AM
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Which bail agreement?

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Funkydog
09/26/23 4:27:49 AM
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Surprised it took him this long.

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Serious_Cat
09/26/23 4:56:22 AM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
Which bail agreement?
This. There's nothing in either bail agreements about possessing or buying firearms. There's nothing illegal about filling out a background check form even if you don't qualify as long as you don't commit perjury. The legal restriction otherwise is against the seller.

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TonyKojima
09/26/23 5:06:14 AM
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Serious_Cat posted...
This. There's nothing in either bail agreements about possessing or buying firearms. There's nothing illegal about filling out a background check form even if you don't qualify as long as you don't commit perjury. The legal restriction otherwise is against the seller.
Wrong. Its illegal to attempt to buy a firearm while under indictment.

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09/26/23 1:01:24 PM
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Bandit_Keith
09/26/23 3:46:24 PM
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TonyKojima posted...
Wrong. Its illegal to attempt to buy a firearm while under indictment.
Why are you always so wrong on so many topics? You can make a simple Google search and find out facts. Why waste your time like this? It doesn't make any sense.

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Noname12
09/26/23 3:48:39 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/7/AAfeZRAAE34l.jpg

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andel
09/26/23 3:51:48 PM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
Why are you always so wrong on so many topics? You can make a simple Google search and find out facts. Why waste your time like this? It doesn't make any sense.

maybe you should actually learn the law before attempting to smugly shitpost?

Noname12 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/7/AAfeZRAAE34l.jpg


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Noname12
09/26/23 3:52:58 PM
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I guess the wording is tricky. It says receive or transport but it doesnt say purchase like the top does

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Alteres
09/26/23 3:53:58 PM
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andel posted...
maybe you should actually learn the law before attempting to smugly shitpost?
either you or I am reading that wrong


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TheGoldenEel
09/26/23 3:55:59 PM
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Noname12 posted...
I guess the wording is tricky. It says receive or transport but it doesnt say purchase like the top does
How is he holding the gun in the picture if he didnt receive it

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andel
09/26/23 3:58:35 PM
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Alteres posted...
either you or I am reading that wrong

the part where it is illegal for someone under criminal indictment that faces a prison sentence to receive firearms or ammo.

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Alteres
09/26/23 4:01:01 PM
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andel posted...
the part where it is illegal for someone under criminal indictment that faces a prison sentence to receive firearms or ammo.
wow, yeah, I stopped reading when the bullet points stopped... I need more sleep

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HashtagSEP
09/26/23 4:01:18 PM
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I have to assume it is, indeed, illegal, since the media is currently running defense making "he didn't actually buy it you guys" the main headline.

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Priere
09/26/23 4:01:34 PM
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Drumpfy got the strap?

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mystic_belmont
09/26/23 4:02:45 PM
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I think on the paperwork for the background check they ask if you have been indicted for a felony.

Trump didn't answer because of course he didn't try and buy a gun. He says a lot of crap.

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CableZL
09/26/23 4:03:21 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/8/AABjoOAAE4BC.jpg

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andel
09/26/23 4:03:24 PM
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Noname12 posted...
I guess the wording is tricky. It says receive or transport but it doesnt say purchase like the top does

the common interpretation is that someone under felony indictment can't legally buy a gun. all the media sources are saying it is illegal as well and likely why the trump supporter deleted the post

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Noname12
09/26/23 4:03:31 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
How is he holding the gun in the picture if he didnt receive it
Receive and possess are two different legal terms is what Im saying. Notice at the top it says to receive or purchase a firearm.

It can be legal for him to purchase it but not receive it

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devilminion
09/26/23 4:04:31 PM
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Priere posted...
Drumpfy got the strap?

"I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose any supporters"

Looking like he might actually attempt it

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Noname12
09/26/23 4:05:17 PM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/25/donald-trump-gun-glock/70965018007/

okay, so he didnt actually buy it just held it?

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CableZL
09/26/23 4:06:48 PM
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Noname12 posted...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/25/donald-trump-gun-glock/70965018007/

okay, so he didnt actually buy it just held it?

Trump's campaign said he bought it at first, then they deleted the post and said he didn't buy it. Also, the law says receive or possess. Holding it would be considered possessing it, correct?

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Kradek
09/26/23 4:06:52 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/0/AAPstsAAE37I.jpg

Lmao

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andel
09/26/23 4:07:06 PM
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Noname12 posted...
Receive and possess are two different legal terms is what Im saying. Notice at the top it says to receive or purchase a firearm.

It can be legal for him to purchase it but not receive it

that is not correct. federal law prohibits people under felony indictment from buying guns. chud advocates are trying to change that, but currently it is against federal law

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-gun-supreme-court/

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andel
09/26/23 4:08:16 PM
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Noname12 posted...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/25/donald-trump-gun-glock/70965018007/

okay, so he didnt actually buy it just held it?

holding is possessing. if it's illegal for lil boosie and various other rappers that have felonies/indictments it's illegal for the traitorous former potus

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Noname12
09/26/23 4:10:26 PM
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CableZL posted...
Trump's campaign said he bought it at first, then they deleted the post and said he didn't buy it. Also, the law says receive or possess. Holding it would be considered possessing it, correct?
its kind of a confusing situation to be honest. It looks like they were going for some kind of promo of trump to be like hell yeah I love guns. Whether that constitutes enough to articulate possession as a prohibited person would be interesting to see

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CableZL
09/26/23 4:12:33 PM
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Noname12 posted...
its kind of a confusing situation to be honest. It looks like they were going for some kind of promo of trump to be like hell yeah I love guns. Whether that constitutes enough to articulate possession as a prohibited person would be interesting to see

Yeah, pretty much all of Trump's charges have put the country in uncharted territory. We're all just along for the ride and having to see how all this stuff plays out.

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Will_VIII
09/26/23 4:13:02 PM
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Shall not be infringed.

Unless you're Laptop Biden.

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EyeWontBeFooled
09/26/23 4:17:53 PM
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winged_weltall posted...
lmao indeed, but I can imagine Trump's security detail might have a thing or two to say if he held the gun next to Trump properly.
Would have looked like that dude in Florida who shot in the
Priere posted...
Drumpfy got the strap?
He at least stopped wearing his stupid overly long tie over his suit. Jesus, that was distracting.

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Error1355
09/26/23 4:20:38 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
I have to assume it is, indeed, illegal, since the media is currently running defense making "he didn't actually buy it you guys, his campaign said so" the main headline.

I assume it was actually illegal the moment his campaign said 'yeah actually we lied' as soon as someone alerted them about how illegal it was.

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Bandit_Keith
09/26/23 4:22:51 PM
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andel posted...
maybe you should actually learn the law before attempting to smugly shitpost?
I did. It's not illegal to attempt to buy a gun. Also, there's no evidence this far that he actually bought it.

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CableZL
09/26/23 4:24:33 PM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
I did. It's not illegal to attempt to buy a gun. Also, there's no evidence this far that he actually bought it.
It is illegal for him to ship, transport, receive, or possess a gun. Someone gave him the gun so he could hold it, and he did hold it. That could be considered receiving and possessing it.

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Ooooooranges
09/26/23 4:26:28 PM
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CableZL posted...
It is illegal for him to ship, transport, receive, or possess a gun. Someone gave him the gun so he could hold it, and he did hold it. That could be considered receiving and possessing it.

Could, yes, but I don't think it's 100% clear.

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LaLeyenda
09/26/23 4:28:39 PM
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CableZL
09/26/23 4:29:16 PM
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Whether it was a publicity stunt or not is irrelevant. His intentions are irrelevant. His narcissism is irrelevant. His hyperbolic statement is irrelevant.

If it's illegal to receive or possess the gun, and he's on video receiving and possessing the gun, and a court would rule that someone handing him a gun for him to hold and him holding it is considered receiving and possessing, then this would be considered a bond violation.

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andel
09/26/23 4:31:12 PM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
I did. It's not illegal to attempt to buy a gun. Also, there's no evidence this far that he actually bought it.

it is illegal for him to possess a gun at all, meaning the picture of him holding it is him committing yet another crime. luckily he has been charged with 91 of his crimes, hopefully they smoke his boots with this one too

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Tyranthraxus
09/26/23 4:33:44 PM
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Noname12 posted...
I guess the wording is tricky. It says receive or transport but it doesnt say purchase like the top does
I love purchasing things that I don't receive. Especially if I'm not allowed to take it literally anywhere. Basically I buy it and let the guy who sold it to me keep it. Who doesn't do that all the time really?

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CableZL
09/26/23 4:34:07 PM
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Scenario: I'm talking to a police officer in person. I have a gun on me that I am legally allowed to possess. If I give my gun to a person who is either a known felon or known to be under a bond condition that prohibits that person's ability to receive or possess firearms in front of the police officer... Is there some legal amount of time that would have to transpire before that person's possession of the gun lands him in more legal trouble?

Or does it not count because the person wasn't trying to purchase the gun?

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