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2Pacavelli
09/25/23 9:34:49 AM
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Been fully remote since March 2020. Don't know how I'm going to function having to get dressed for commute, then commute back home in work days. Feels pointless and like a waste of time.

Makes me want to find a new job...

Working as a Software Developer for some corporation
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Dakimakura
09/25/23 9:38:29 AM
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Find a new job

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Rai_Jin
09/25/23 9:39:32 AM
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why did all bosses decide it at the same time?

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boomgetchopped3
09/25/23 9:39:40 AM
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Yeah, been going in one day a week for a year now. That one day is usually a wash. Boss makes us eat with him too. Its just a stupid ritual.

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pretzelcoatl
09/25/23 9:41:56 AM
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Oh no, the horror
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MisterPengy
09/25/23 9:42:25 AM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Boss makes us eat with him too.

I'm sure you get paid for your lunch break then, right?

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2Pacavelli
09/25/23 9:42:36 AM
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pretzelcoatl posted...
Oh no, the horror

Yeah it's horrible and a waste
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BlazinBlue88
09/25/23 9:42:40 AM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Boss makes us eat with him too. Its just a stupid ritual.
You know he can't actually "make" you do it right? You're not on the clock during lunch.

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pnut027
09/25/23 9:43:51 AM
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Well theyre paying you to be where they tell you to be.

Either appeal it or quit.

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KaZooo
09/25/23 9:44:45 AM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Yeah, been going in one day a week for a year now. That one day is usually a wash. Boss makes us eat with him too. Its just a stupid ritual.
Eggplant calzone!

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2Pacavelli
09/25/23 9:45:01 AM
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I live in New York City which is a wild dangerous jungle. I've been safe for the last 3 years, don't see why I should risk my life having to travel amongst these crazy people to do work that I can do just fine at home.

We just had a major successful release to production a few weeks ago which includes work that I've done. Why should we come back to office when things are doing just fine remotely
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2Pacavelli
09/25/23 9:45:12 AM
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pnut027 posted...
Well theyre paying you to be where they tell you to be.

Either appeal it or quit.

I'm considering
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SpiritSephiroth
09/25/23 9:45:23 AM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Boss makes us eat with him too. Its just a stupid ritual.

Do you live in Japan or something? >_>

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voldothegr8
09/25/23 9:45:36 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Don't know how I'm going to function having to get dressed for commute, then commute back home in work days
The same way you did in the past?

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2Pacavelli
09/25/23 9:46:01 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
The same way you did in the past?

That's the main problem.
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PraetorXyn
09/25/23 9:46:53 AM
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Find another job.

My company is trying to make us go in two days a week starting October 1. They have a telework program, but one of the requirements is living 50 miles from an office. I live 15 away but cant drive due to being born legally blind, so it may as well be 150, and my boss thinks my request will be approved.

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Ricemills
09/25/23 9:48:46 AM
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Daily or just weekly? And how far is it from your residence?

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2Pacavelli
09/25/23 9:49:36 AM
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Ricemills posted...
Daily or just weekly? And how far is it from your residence?

Twice a week

And it's about an hour commute away
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Ricemills
09/25/23 9:51:00 AM
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That kinda sucks.
As compensations for commuting, try to include the commute time as work hours.

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PraetorXyn
09/25/23 9:52:53 AM
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Ricemills posted...
That kinda sucks.
As compensations for commuting, try to include the commute time as work hours.
That wont fly. Its why commuting is so stupid.

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2Pacavelli
09/25/23 10:03:49 AM
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The team I work with in the company is based out of the West Coast so they work from the hours of 12-8pm EST. So the 2 hours+ I'll have to spend commuting amongst angry, rude, busy New Yorkers is just going to cut into the time that I could be spending collaborating with my actual teammates.
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boomgetchopped3
09/25/23 10:30:32 AM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
You know he can't actually "make" you do it right? You're not on the clock during lunch.

he cant make me. But really, yes he is making us. Its team building to him. You say no and youll be the only person saying no.
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ScazarMeltex
09/25/23 10:38:20 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
I live in New York City which is a wild dangerous jungle. I've been safe for the last 3 years, don't see why I should risk my life having to travel amongst these crazy people to do work that I can do just fine at home.

We just had a major successful release to production a few weeks ago which includes work that I've done. Why should we come back to office when things are doing just fine remotely
Because they have to justify paying for the expensive lease on their office space.

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PraetorXyn
09/25/23 10:42:45 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Because they have to justify paying for the expensive lease on their office space.
This. All this return to the office bullshit is only because people are going to lose a fortune if the commercial real estate bubble bursts.

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NatsuSama
09/25/23 10:44:21 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Been fully remote since March 2020. Don't know how I'm going to function having to get dressed for commute, then commute back home in work days. Feels pointless and like a waste of time.

Makes me want to find a new job...

Working as a Software Developer for some corporation
NGL, I'd feel the same exact way.

Coincidentally I have also been 100% teleworking since March of 2020.

They aren't forcing me to go back in, but one of my coworkers need assistance with their on-site work (because apparently he didn't know what he was doing) and they are now looking at surge support.

On-site is an hour and some change commute there and an hour+ commute back. I haven't raised my hand to volunteer, but I suspect asking me to come in is on the horizon.

NGL, I dont plan to volunteer as tribute, and I'd definitely start job seeking if they make me. I'm already underpaid compared to others in my position. (They were hired last year when salaries saw a rise, I was hired a year before covid was a thing.) Only reason I'm contempt with being underpaid is the 100% telework.

Been with the company for 4 years, take telework away and I'm out.

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PeteyParker
09/25/23 10:47:56 AM
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Start looking for a new job. The only reason I'm staying at my current job is because we've been remote since March 2020. I'd honestly start looking for a new job if I started to get wind that they wanted us going back in to the office more than 1-2 times a month for meetings. I've saved thousands in gas alone and I'm no longer exhausted and in a bad mood from my commute to and from work. I was leaving for work at 6:30 am to avoid as much traffic as possible and would leave work after 6:00 PM because I'd still get home around the same time as if I left at 5:00 PM because my area has been under perpetual construction for 20+ years and the traffic is a nightmare.

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Naysaspace
09/25/23 11:03:37 AM
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do it, you might like it.

and if you dont, bide your time and look for different work. perhaps speak to your bosses -- rather than the caricature of them in your head -- on their turf and discuss the change and how to make it work best for you. No rational company is going to sit idly by and let talent leave over something like stonefooting RTO. thats just inefffective management right there
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PraetorXyn
09/25/23 11:04:51 AM
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Naysaspace posted...
do it, you might like it.

and if you dont, bide your time and look for different work. perhaps speak to your bosses -- rather than the caricature of them in your head -- on their turf and discuss the change and how to make it work best for you. No rational company is going to sit idly by and let talent leave over something like stonefooting RTO. thats just inefffective management right there
Yes they will. This is about justifying pointless office real estate.

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NatsuSama
09/25/23 11:07:41 AM
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Naysaspace posted...
do it, you might like it.

and if you dont, bide your time and look for different work. perhaps speak to your bosses -- rather than the caricature of them in your head -- on their turf and discuss the change and how to make it work best for you. No rational company is going to sit idly by and let talent leave over something like stonefooting RTO. thats just inefffective management right there
You'd be surprised.

That said, I think that's why my company isn't pressuring me into the office. There's a shortage of people who do our work. And while I haven't outright been blunt that if you call me in I'm gone, it's not exactly a secret either.

So I think they are hesitant on pushing me in the office. (That's not to say that they can't or wont if they really want to.)

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Naysaspace
09/25/23 11:08:55 AM
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NatsuSama posted...
You'd be surprised
"no! because me, therefore all!"

unless you're saying that bad managers exist and implying that i don't know that, then you're just patronising me
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NatsuSama
09/25/23 11:11:43 AM
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Naysaspace posted...
"no! because me, therefore all!"

unless you're saying that bad managers exist and implying that i don't know that, then you're just patronising me

No, you are just being very dramatic. Calm down. Especially since my post doesn't say whatever you seem to have morphed it to.

For the life of me how you took my post as an attack at you.

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pretzelcoatl
09/25/23 12:41:10 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
The team I work with in the company is based out of the West Coast so they work from the hours of 12-8pm EST. So the 2 hours+ I'll have to spend commuting amongst angry, rude, busy New Yorkers is just going to cut into the time that I could be spending collaborating with my actual teammates.
You chose to live in New York, presumably you found this an acceptable situation before WFH took off. what changed?
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2Pacavelli
09/26/23 10:00:22 AM
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pretzelcoatl posted...
You chose to live in New York, presumably you found this an acceptable situation before WFH took off. what changed?

I had typed a better and longer response yesterday but it got deleted, but basically I grew up in NYC so before I had no choice before it's just the nature of living in the city. But after WFH I didn't have to deal with that issues anymore. And overall over just felt a lot safer
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Kimberly
09/26/23 10:01:55 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Working as a Software Developer for some corporation

Man, definitely work on finding a new job. Wish you the best because RTO is stupid as hell.

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Bass
09/26/23 10:02:23 AM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Yeah, been going in one day a week for a year now. That one day is usually a wash.


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WarfireX
09/26/23 10:12:07 AM
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You need to find a new job. This is the equivalent of them making you take a pay cut. If you go back, you are setting the precedent that we all will go back. Hold the line.

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2Pacavelli
09/26/23 10:15:17 AM
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WarfireX posted...
You need to find a new job. This is the equivalent of them making you take a pay cut. If you go back, you are setting the precedent that we all will go back. Hold the line.

Got it I'm going to do my best.
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colliding
09/26/23 10:18:21 AM
#43:


It's okay to leave your house, folks

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_____Cait
09/26/23 10:21:54 AM
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are you guys all IT or something

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codey
09/26/23 10:30:12 AM
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At my office we used to come in once a week on Thursdays, and this month they decided to switch it to three days a week. That sucks, but I can deal with being in the office. What I can't deal with is the fact that now our parking reimbursements only cover about 60% of our parking fees, so I'm paying money to go into the office. $20 every day, and on a day that I have to head out and meet someone for an interview or do some on-site reporting, I have to go back to the office and pay another $20.

To top it all off, the fucking kiosk in the garage is busted and the touch screen never works, so I get stuck in their constantly waiting for a worker to let me out. I used to not complain because I was barely in the office, but now? Every day that kiosk fucks me over, I blast it out to our entire office, and several other reporters have started doing the same thing.


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rexcrk
09/26/23 11:24:15 AM
#46:


Its all bullshit to either justify paying money on a building or trying to maintain control and keep the working peasants unhappy.

Any job that CAN be done from home, SHOULD be done from home. But oh noes! the gas companies wont make as much money! The workers will be happy! Muh sOciALiZaTiOn!

And fuck anyone who says just suck it up and deal with it yeah just be miserable!

Absolute clownworld.

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PraetorXyn
09/26/23 11:35:45 AM
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_____Cait posted...
are you guys all IT or something
Software developer.

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Forest_Temple
09/26/23 11:36:07 AM
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Tell your boss to fuck off

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2Pacavelli
09/26/23 11:38:01 AM
#49:


Forest_Temple posted...
Tell your boss to fuck off

My direct manager doesn't care to much whether I'm in office or not it seems, but organizationally I think due to the CEO it seems he has to try to enforce this policy
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Blue_Thunder
09/26/23 1:54:35 PM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Boss makes us eat with him too.

Wot

colliding posted...
It's okay to leave your house, folks

People leave their homes for reasons besides appeasing corporate overlords, you know.

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