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Heineken14
09/25/23 8:23:59 AM
#51:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
Okay Kyle


Yeah, the stereotype of Kyle's punching drywall. And scumbag Steve.

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Solid_Sonic
09/25/23 8:26:23 AM
#52:


I came in here to see if someone said "shut the fuck up".

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Solid_Sonic
09/25/23 8:34:08 AM
#54:


There are people here RIGHT NOW who would argue if you don't like the implication the name "Karen" carries because it's your name then you need to change your name instead of complaining about it.

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viewmaster_pi
09/25/23 8:37:17 AM
#55:


yeah, it's a shame Karen of all things got picked for this. it was a nice name, had "care" right in it. now internet people did what they do to it

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EmilyTheCEman
09/25/23 8:40:58 AM
#56:


SuperSaiyanTien posted...
How isn't it?

It's a term created and used to solely shut down women and invalidate what they're upset about.

No, its specifically used against women (usually privileged middle aged white women but not exclusively) specifically complaining about dumb shit and/or when they made an unreasonable request and didnt get what they wanted. Thats exactly what its meant for. Thats the phrase.

We call the guy versions male Karens so its completely fair.

Also its now worldwide, my wife tells me all the time about Philippines Karens.

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Punished_Blinx
09/25/23 8:41:14 AM
#57:


Overall it is yeah.

People won't admit it until it's barely used anymore in the future.

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VeesMcGees
09/25/23 8:50:54 AM
#58:


mustachedmystic posted...
No, they are upset about the world not revolving around them. They are upset about a black man birdwatching in their park.
Its both. Karen applies to anyone attempting to escalate a fuss thats over something either harmless and inconsequential or outright demand preferential treatment over policies not applicable to them.
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Naysaspace
09/25/23 9:04:53 AM
#59:


people on the "karen is mysogynystyc!" side when they are reminded of tucker max
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/5/AAZUkRAAE3xh.jpg
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A_Good_Boy
09/25/23 9:15:11 AM
#60:


Solid_Sonic posted...
There are people here RIGHT NOW who would argue if you don't like the implication the name "Karen" carries because it's your name then you need to change your name instead of complaining about it.
Turns out the world doesn't actually have main characters and language doesn't revolve around them. Whodathunkit?

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Avirosb
09/25/23 9:16:33 AM
#61:


huh huh huh huh huh huh

LET'S GO BRANDON

huh huh huh

The actual Brandon guy: "...the fuck...?"

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AceMos
09/25/23 9:26:38 AM
#62:


ppl call male karens a karen to


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Villain_S_Fiend
09/25/23 9:27:05 AM
#63:


I've always suggested Gary as the name for a male Karen. It's a mediocre, two syllable name that can be said in a similarly snide manner as Karen, and it's over-represented by middle-aged and older white guys.

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Kloe_Rinz
09/25/23 9:32:47 AM
#64:


so is there any convincing argument that Kevin or Karen are sexist/racist terms yet?
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asdf8562
09/25/23 9:56:07 AM
#65:


Anything to find something to be offended about...
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Patriotwolf
09/25/23 9:57:35 AM
#66:


Except women use it against other women.

The term's origins aren't rooted in misogyny, it's rooted in selfish, whiny, entitled people.

Chad/Chud is the well-used male equivalent

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Link_of_time
09/25/23 10:06:30 AM
#67:


Choco posted...
i hate how people feel the need to turn innocent people's names into an insult
Yep, poor Richard.
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VirtuousWrath
09/25/23 10:19:31 AM
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Karen is definitely sexist but it's like a Taco Bell mild sauce level of sexist

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VeggetaX
09/25/23 10:25:48 AM
#70:


VirtuousWrath posted...
Karen is definitely sexist but it's like a Taco Bell mild sauce level of sexist
A good comparison because a lot of people find that mild sauce level to be extremely unbearable. Same thing here, the term is very mild at best but some will still take it to extreme measures.

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Barber102
09/25/23 10:27:42 AM
#71:


SuperSaiyanTien posted...
How isn't it?

It's a term created and used to solely shut down women and invalidate what they're upset about.

shut up karen.

see karen isnt misogynistic term, it is gender neutral because a karen is a fucking karen.

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Kradek
09/25/23 10:47:44 AM
#73:


Karen has evolved into a state of being and expressed behavior. People have voiced support against "Ken" or "Kevin" precisely because then it makes it about their sex when it should be about their behavior.

Yeah, the meme started out with that 4 panel picture that was like "black husband, x haircut, "I want to speak to the manager", and a 4th one I forget", however I'd argue it's evolved far beyond that image.

It also drives actual misogynists insane when you refer to them as Karens (because they hate women), so that's a nice bonus.

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mario2000
09/25/23 10:55:22 AM
#74:


this is some "zoomer slang is racist" levels of logic here

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BeantownHero
09/25/23 11:31:55 AM
#76:


The only thing funnier than the term are the people who fake righteous indignation over it

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/0/AALimsAAD38c.jpg

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WellKnownNomad
09/25/23 12:14:09 PM
#77:


Is incel not a male equivalent?

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ai123
09/25/23 12:15:46 PM
#78:


Karovorak posted...
That's just how it happens.

In the german language we had a similar thing starting from mid-2000s but with "Kevin".

The name "Kevin" suddenly became a synonym for the dump lower class douchebags. There was a female counterpart with "Chantal", but it never got as much traction than Kevin.
In the UK it was Kevin and Sharon.

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indica
09/27/23 9:21:31 PM
#80:


VeggetaX posted...
Alright guys, you've convinced me. Stop using Karen and Bitches for men and women because it's a misogynistic term.
Awesome!

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Notti
09/30/23 7:52:28 AM
#81:


It's as prejudiced as Boomer.

As in: not at all

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Vegy
09/30/23 8:14:54 AM
#82:


Imagine white knighting karen in da year 2023

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bfslick50
09/30/23 8:20:35 AM
#83:


indica posted...
It's not like there's a male equivalent, and I know men are engaging in this same behavior
I strongly feel the male equivalent is Kevin. I acknowledge that hasnt gained in popularity

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Torgo
09/30/23 8:20:43 AM
#84:


Fake virtue signal concern troll topic.

Guaranteed those who are scolding us for any misogyny in using the term Karen do not care about misogyny in 99% of other instances.

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indica
10/01/23 12:26:26 AM
#85:


Torgo posted...
Fake virtue signal concern troll topic.

Guaranteed those who are scolding us for any misogyny in using the term Karen do not care about misogyny in 99% of other instances.
You come off as super defensive and act like you're deflecting (like who's scolding you?). All I did is literally state a fact. Maybe you need to take some time to reflect on your behavior

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Kaiganeer
10/01/23 12:29:38 AM
#86:


byron's making a scene at the starbucks again
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Mistere_Man
10/01/23 12:37:08 AM
#87:


Nukazie posted...
is there a 'chad' term equivalent for females?

Baberaham Lincoln

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Dark_Arbron
10/01/23 12:46:51 AM
#88:


Karen and Kerry.

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BewmHedshot
10/01/23 12:50:14 AM
#89:


I've decided the male version is "Elon"
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AnsestralRecall
10/01/23 12:59:40 AM
#90:


Patriotwolf posted...
Except women use it against other women.

The term's origins aren't rooted in misogyny, it's rooted in selfish, whiny, entitled people.

Chad/Chud is the well-used male equivalent

Women using it doesn't mean it isn't misogynistic.

Chad is not used even remotely in the same context

Chud is not the equivalent because it refers specifically to right wingers.
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HOON
10/01/23 1:35:24 AM
#91:


I thought Kyle was the male Karen
and Steve is the anti-Karen
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/3/AAfaUTAAE4xj.jpg

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Mistere_Man
10/01/23 1:37:04 AM
#92:


How about Daren?

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Guide
10/01/23 1:39:37 AM
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I just see "male karen"

In my mind, the male equivalent isn't behaving the same; it's the guy being way too loud in a fast food court, saying something like "I JUST SAY IT LIKE IT IS, I'M BLUNT, I'M JUST BEING HONEST", while flecks of spit and shredded lettuce are flung from his mouth.

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A_Good_Boy
10/01/23 1:46:20 AM
#94:


indica posted...
You come off as super defensive and act like you're deflecting (like who's scolding you?). All I did is literally state a fact. Maybe you need to take some time to reflect on your behavior
For a poster named indica you sure need to chill the fuck out.

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indica
10/01/23 6:39:23 AM
#95:


A_Good_Boy posted...
For a poster named indica you sure need to chill the fuck out.
>_>

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brestugo
10/01/23 6:44:20 AM
#96:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
Okay Kyle

That's the one I've heard most often for men exhibiting Karen behavior.

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Lobinde
10/01/23 8:02:08 AM
#97:


Karen started off as a term to describe a very specific kind of upper-middle class entitlement, the kind of person (usually a woman, but sometimes men too) who feels entitled to special treatment wherever they go and will treat others around them like shit, being especially harsh towards service workers.

Nowadays the term has become overused and I mostly see it used by incels/"red pill" idiots to dismiss any woman who stands up for themselves, even if she has a legitimate reason to do so.

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nocturnal_traveler
10/01/23 11:36:51 PM
#98:


Lobinde posted...
Karen started off as a term to describe a very specific kind of upper-middle class entitlement, the kind of person (usually a woman, but sometimes men too) who feels entitled to special treatment wherever they go and will treat others around them like shit, being especially harsh towards service workers.

Nowadays the term has become overused and I mostly see it used by incels/"red pill" idiots to dismiss any woman who stands up for themselves, even if she has a legitimate reason to do so.
Anything a red pill/incel uses is not probable cause to stop using something.

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asdf8562
10/02/23 1:48:38 AM
#99:


nocturnal_traveler posted...
Anything a red pill/incel uses is not probable cause to stop using something.
To pile on...
I swear the term "red pill" and "incel" at least on this board is thrown around as a buzzword.

The term Karen isn't a red pill only word, but why am I not surprised someone somehow looped in red pillers into a term that extends far beyond the red pill crowd.
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Torgo
10/02/23 1:54:39 AM
#100:


brestugo posted...
That's the one I've heard most often for men exhibiting Karen behavior.

I've hear "Male Karen" and "Kevin" not Kyle until now.

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