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And Master Chief like immediately took his helmet off?

Dont remind me

It's why some things are better left to their own spheres. If the argument is that he has to take his helmet off to make a successful TV show around him, I'd rather there not be a TV show than ruin the artistic vision of the Halo creators.

PiOverlord posted...

It's why some things are better left to their own spheres. If the argument is that he has to take his helmet off to make a successful TV show around him, I'd rather there not be a TV show than ruin the artistic vision of the Halo creators.

Taking the helmet off is far from the most egregious things the show did.

Master Chief also committed a specifically-designated war crime when he had sex with a captive.

Remember CE?

K181 posted...

Master Chief also committed a specifically-designated war crime when he had sex with a captive.

While Cortana watched in shame

Punished_Blinx posted...

While Cortana watched in shame

I will readily admit that being watched during is my biggest kink, so having a Cortana-figure watching every time I bang would be the biggest turn-on imaginable to me.

I think I remember hearing about this show like once, then never hearing about it again.

If it wasnt called Halo it would have been decent

It got a second season which recently finished filming, so hopefully they listened to all the criticism

Me and my best friend had a great time watching that show while playing through the Halo trilogy.

I feel the criticism is largely overblown. It was enjoyable enough, though I don't like who they got playing Chief.

Also the entire storyline with Kwan Ha was painfully dull and pointless.

littlebro07 posted...

If it wasnt called Halo it would have been decent

It got a second season which recently finished filming, so hopefully they listened to all the criticism

Yeah I still overall didn't mind it. Could have been better but it was entertaining enough. Liked it better than most video game movies although that doesn't say much.

The Last of Us wiped the floor with it in every way however. Might have been more critical if I watched Halo after that.

Master Cheeks

Alright so they showed his face at the end of the first episode. Weird choice but whatever, Im sure they wont do it much now that its out of the way.

*literally the very next episode*

GOOD GRIEF HES NAKED!

Mew posted...

Dont remind me

There's HAS to be a saboteur that ruins these franchises. Halo, LOTR, SW...

I CAN'T believe they spent millions of dollars to create these flops. Just. Use. The. Source Material.

Crazy how a few months later The Last it Us came out and was extremely popular and well received, because it basically just adapted the first game.

All they had to do for Halo was just adapt the first game. How hard could that be?? No need to get into all the ONI/Halsey stuff, are the UNSC good or not questions. Just focus on Master Chief and the Pillar of Autumn on Halo. Would be a great story.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Crazy how a few months later The Last it Us came out and was extremely popular and well received, because it basically just adapted the first game.

All they had to do for Halo was just adapt the first game. How hard could that be?? No need to get into all the ONI/Halsey stuff, are the UNSC good or not questions. Just focus on Master Chief and the Pillar of Autumn on Halo. Would be a great story.

It would be pretty hard. Halo only has 90 minutes of cutscenes. The Last of Us has three and a half hours and significantly more dialogue during gameplay and they still added a lot of extra side plot to it.

It could have worked as a movie but there's not a lot of meat for a TV show. I haven't read the Halo novel so maybe that would have been better but the weird thing about Halo is that most of the interesting character stuff happens outside of the games.

I watched one episode and thought it was so stupid. The writers obviously didn't care about Halo's lore at all.

They would have to add some extra meat, but the overall plot should have just been the first game. Add in some flashbacks of Reach, other major battles, Chiefs training, Chief watching the other Spartans die, and make several Marines like Johnson main characters. Add in more plot with The Arbiter and the Covenant side. You can get 8 hours out of that easy.

Punished_Blinx posted...

It would be pretty hard. Halo only has 90 minutes of cutscenes. The Last of Us has three and a half hours and significantly more dialogue during gameplay and they still added a lot of extra side plot to it.

It could have worked as a movie but there's not a lot of meat for a TV show. I haven't read the Halo novel so maybe that would have been better but the weird thing about Halo is that most of the interesting character stuff happens outside of the games.

The Flood was the novelization of the game and included a lot of extra stuff like what the rest of the humans were up to during the MCs missions, and filled in some gaps between missions with him at the main base doing shit. IIRC there was also some chapters following a few Covenant characters.

also makes Chief not be an accidental mass murderer of the remaining human forces at the end lol

That wouldve been great to see adapted in a tv show

The biggest obstacle overall is that Master Chief is overall a paper thin protagonist. He's an escapist video game character who barely speaks, kicks ass and moves on. He doesn't even really show any sign of failure, flaws or vulnerability until Halo 4 and even that is minor.

Joel with his trauma and relationship with Ellie stands on its own with barely any action at all. It is the centre point of the entire story even for the climax.

Halo is a cool universe but it is in an awkward spot with Master Chief as the focus. If anything the stores are more interesting when he's in the background and the other characters are dealing with that like the Hunt the Truth podcast.

It's a problem even the games haven't really figured out either.

Crimsoness posted...

And Master Chief like immediately took his helmet off?

Why does that matter? We have an idea of what he looks like thanks to The Fall of Reach.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Halo is a cool universe but it is in an awkward spot with Master Chief as the focus. If anything the stores are more interesting when he's in the background and the other characters are dealing with that like the Hunt the Truth podcast.

I'm still beyond pissed that that amounted to LESS than nothing. With Blue Team finally being introduced to the games they had a prime opportunity for some actual characterizing and they didn't do a damn thing with it. His oldest friends, and they were more easter eggs than characters.

dave_is_slick posted...

I'm still beyond pissed that that amounted to LESS than nothing. With Blue Team finally being introduced to the games they had a prime opportunity for some actual characterizing and they didn't do a damn thing with it. His oldest friends, and they were more easter eggs than characters.

The general story of Halo is filled with prime opportunities that don't pay off unfortunately lol. At least the games are fun.

Remember how emotional and epic the Halo 3 marketing was? A bunch of old combat vets talking about how the Master Chief made them 'believe'. Good times. Nothing like that in the actual game though lol.

Going back even further than that I remember some sentiment that Halo 2 wasn't actually about taking back Earth from the Covenant.

My friend in Taiwan informed me that it's actually popular there. It's mainly because the game itself isn't popular enough to have vocal fans who give a shit about how faithful the show is.

K181 posted...

Master Chief also committed a specifically-designated war crime when he had sex with a captive.

War crimes don't exist in the future.

Bass posted...

I watched one episode and thought it was so stupid. The writers obviously didn't care about Halo's lore at all.

Same.

wasn't there a chevy silverado or something in a scene? lol

viewmaster_pi posted...

wasn't there a chevy silverado or something in a scene? lol

It was a Tahoe.

And the Halo modding community did what they do best by putting it into Halo 3 like a day after it aired

https://youtu.be/Jj0Wj2DiOYc?si=cty0iKYlTIJpNjfv

It is also pretty wild that there was 0 crossover advertising or promotions or anything with the release of the Halo TV show and Halo Infinite. Microsoft and 343 are managing Halo so poorly, it is embarrassing.

I remember they came out and said they didn't even play the game so at that point I realized they weren't going to put any effort in and skipped it.

Here is The Master Chief, the faceless asexual golem.

Here's his O Face while he bangs a prisoner.

All of remember about that show is seeing master chiefs naked ass and absolutely loving it

Punished_Blinx posted...

It would be pretty hard. Halo only has 90 minutes of cutscenes. The Last of Us has three and a half hours and significantly more dialogue during gameplay and they still added a lot of extra side plot to it.

It could have worked as a movie but there's not a lot of meat for a TV show. I haven't read the Halo novel so maybe that would have been better but the weird thing about Halo is that most of the interesting character stuff happens outside of the games.

Sure, but they don't have to stick to only 1 game per season. So long as they leave things out well, they can just pull from multiple games.

Punished_Blinx posted...

The general story of Halo is filled with prime opportunities that don't pay off unfortunately lol. At least the games are fun.

Remember how emotional and epic the Halo 3 marketing was? A bunch of old combat vets talking about how the Master Chief made them 'believe'. Good times. Nothing like that in the actual game though lol.

Going back even further than that I remember some sentiment that Halo 2 wasn't actually about taking back Earth from the Covenant.

Halo 3: ODST and Halo Reach had good characters and emotional scenes. The story of the fall of Reach, especially, would make a good show or movie

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I mean Halo CE came out in 2001, and was groundbreaking for the amount of story they did include in the campaign for an FPS, especially on console. By today's standards it is mediocre though, but at the time it was revolutionary.

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That was probably because of Halo fans who read the novels. The novels introduced interesting characters and events through out the timeline, only for the game series to completely ignore or even flat out re-write the canon of events.

That's a major frustration for fans to the novels.

Was he hot

I tried it but it was incredibly boring

Smackems posted...

Was he hot

He was Liv Schreiber's brother

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Halo CE's story is rather limited in scope, and I think that was intended. It helps preserve a lot of the mystery and gave the game a unique feel. The stakes seem a lot higher when you just focus on the Pillar of the Autumn and its crew and what amounts to just a single campaign in a much grander conflict. It reminds me a bit of how Half-Life tells its story. While Halo was different obviously in that it had a ton of cutscenes still, there's also a lot that's conveyed through playing the missions.

Obviously it wasn't until Halo 2 where they started focusing on the story in a more traditional sense.

I've never played the Halo games, but I did find it hilarious that they took a character most famed for never showing his face and made him completely bare-ass naked.

And the Mandalorian + Dredd kind of put to bed any notion that shows/movies can't make good characters who don't take off their mask.

Null_Gain posted...

That was probably because of Halo fans who read the novels. The novels introduced interesting characters and events through out the timeline, only for the game series to completely ignore or even flat out re-write the canon of events.

That's a major frustration for fans to the novels.

Yeah, all of this. Halo as a story could legit be pretty damn cool but it almost seems like they actively try not to make it so. Cortana going rampant? The concept of rampancy was first introduced in the books, rampancy didn't involve becoming a typical AI tyrant. Blue Team? Also books, have very established characters. Like I said in a previous post, essentially boiled down to mere cameos with no effect on Master Chief even though they could have absolutely been used to finally humanize him as John and not just the Chief.

dave_is_slick posted...

Yeah, all of this. Halo as a story could legit be pretty damn cool but it almost seems like they actively try not to make it so. Cortana going rampant? The concept of rampancy was first introduced in the books, rampancy didn't involve becoming a typical AI tyrant. Blue Team? Also books, have very established characters. Like I said in a previous post, essentially boiled down to mere cameos with no effect on Master Chief even though they could have absolutely been used to finally humanize him as John and not just the Chief.

Halo 5 was absolute garbage, I still have no idea how 343 and Microsoft let that game get made with that story and campaign. Who thought it would be a good idea to just fight the Warden like 6 different times?

Then they have 6 years to make Infinite (usually there is 3 years between games), and it is so terrible they delay it a year and have to bring in Joe Staten (an OG writer/designer from Bungie) to scrape together some sort of playable campaign, and they just had to leave Multiplayer a glitchy mess for years. I cant imagine what kind of game we would have gotten if we got Infinite a year early on its original release date lol

pegusus123456 posted...

I've never played the Halo games, but I did find it hilarious that they took a character most famed for never showing his face and made him completely bare-ass naked.

And the Mandalorian + Dredd kind of put to bed any notion that shows/movies can't make good characters who don't take off their mask.

The thing is there's still complexities and depth for both of those characters that just doesn't exist for the Chief.

The Mandalorian wears his mask due to his culture. We do see his face and that moment is a big deal. Him wearing his helmet is a big thing for the show and it's a large part of his character development.

Dredd wears the mask because he is dehumanized. He's a tool for authoritarianism. Dredd focuses entirely on a rather standard day for Dredd too. There's no downtime in that movie. He goes out, deals with crime and from our perspective it's a pretty horrific and violent day. But it doesn't impact him at all. Which emphasizes the point how dehumanized he is.

In the games we don't see his face because he's a stand in for the player. There is no cultural or thematic significance for it. The significance is for gameplay. Story wise when he isn't out fighting he isn't wearing his armor. This is downtime that we never see portrayed in the games at all. He is only ever fighting aliens in the games.

It's just a complicated thing that doesn't really have a good answer for. The games have no interesting themes or character development to draw from and the stuff in the EU is specifically side stuff. It's an awkward franchise to overall adapt.

Overall I think the best bet would be a big budget movie where Master Chief isn't necessarily what the movie is focused around. Kinda like Riddick in Pitch Black or something.