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Bio1590
09/23/23 10:33:53 AM
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Or whatever the fuck it's referred to

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canadians-pierre-poilievre-justin-trudeau-lgbtq-post-020533727.html

Canadians had a lot to say on social media after Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre claimed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was "demonizing" parents following recent rallies over LGBTQ+ school policies.

Trudeau took to X, formerly known as Twitter, on Wednesday with a strict message reminding people that transphobia, homophobia and biphobia have "no place" in Canada.

"We strongly condemn this hate and its manifestations, and we stand united in support of 2SLGBTQI+ Canadians across the country you are valid and you are valued," the Liberal Party leader wrote.

But Poilievre responded with his own thoughts on Friday afternoon, condemning Trudeau for how he "always divides to distract from all he has broken" in a post that's been seen more than 1.5 million times.

"This time, he is demonizing concerned parents," Poilievre penned. "Parents should be the final authority on the values and lessons that are taught to children. Trudeau should butt out and let parents raise their kids."

Both comments come after thousands in cities like Ottawa, Halifax and Vancouver participated in protests and counter-protests regarding LGBTQ+ policies in Canadian schools.

This past summer, leaders in some Canadian provinces began announcing changes to school policies that would impact queer students, particularly those who are transgender or non-binary.

In June, New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs announced new changes to a protective policy for queer students. Those changes mean teachers in the province will not be required to use the preferred names or pronouns of transgender or non-binary students under the age of 16 without parental consent.

Saskatchewan Education Minister Dustin Duncan announced a similar policy change in August, where teachers must seek parental approval before a student under the age of 16 can change their names or pronouns.

Kind of a pretty fucked response to what Trudeau posted, really.

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BlueTigerLion
09/23/23 10:35:23 AM
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So Jordan Peterson talking points will soon be coming from the Canada PM soon? Yikes.

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Zikten
09/23/23 10:36:56 AM
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America infected Canada with our conservative virus
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luigi33
09/23/23 10:38:50 AM
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Zikten posted...
America infected Canada with our conservative virus
More like Trudeau is the biggest fuck up liberal Canada's ever seen.

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__starsnostars
09/23/23 10:39:25 AM
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Poulievre seems like scum every time I read about him.

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Enclave
09/23/23 10:41:37 AM
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Ah, he's finally taking public stances on unpopular issues, this is actually good news. He's been going up in the polls while avoiding talking about LGBTQ issues and abortion and just making his entire platform just "Trudeau bad".

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Jagr_68
09/23/23 10:42:24 AM
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PP n-word guy?

All he's known for afaic

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MagnusX
09/23/23 10:44:13 AM
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luigi33 posted...
More like Trudeau is the biggest fuck up liberal Canada's ever seen.
I don't think my eyes can roll enough at the complete stupidity of this. Jesus fucking Christ.
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mystic_belmont
09/23/23 10:44:59 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
"Parents should be the final authority on the values and lessons that are taught to children.

I guess, but not really. If your values are that you view certain people as lesser, that shouldn't be taught to your kid.

Also, if you don't want your kid to read a book, that is your prerogative. If you don't want my kid to read a book, you can fuck right off.

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luigi33
09/23/23 11:48:31 AM
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MagnusX posted...
I don't think my eyes can roll enough at the complete stupidity of this. Jesus fucking Christ.
Maybe Canada needs to stop going for the milliquost politicians and elect a real progressive.

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Alucard188
09/23/23 11:50:47 AM
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Of course the CPC is saying this. It's the same bullshit that kept gay kids in the closet for decades.

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Enclave
09/23/23 11:51:16 AM
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luigi33 posted...
Maybe Canada needs to stop going for the milliquost politicians and elect a real progressive.

A LOT of people are too afraid to vote NDP because they are voting strategically, there's a reason Trudeau broke his election promise to bring in a proportional representation system instead of first past the post.

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Enclave
09/23/23 12:00:24 PM
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Oh, yeah, if the Liberals had actually pushed through proportional representation like they said they would? It would cripple the Conservatives. They didn't do it though since it would have also hurt them. The only ones it would have really helped significantly would be the NDP and Greens. In fact, it's possible it could result in a NDP Prime Minister one day in the not particularly far future.

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Bio1590
09/23/23 12:08:45 PM
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Crazy how much this guy just sounds exactly like an online right-wing troll just sealioning everywhere

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mercurydude
09/23/23 12:15:34 PM
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"Values" used to mean things like teaching kids to share and to judge others on the content of their character instead of the color of their skin. Now (at least in the hands of right wing nutjobs), it means teach kids to be narcissistic and greedy little shits, and also tell them that they need to make snap judgments about and have a murderous rage towards people over trivial differences.

It will come back to haunt many of them. They'll teach their children to be so self-absorbed that those kids will completely abandon them when they need them most. Or they'll just realize what awful people their parents are, but either ends in the same outcome of wanting nothing to do with them in their old age.

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shiby_with_it
09/23/23 12:20:05 PM
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I mean, good. They are not your kids. To each their own.

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AnsestralRecall
09/23/23 12:22:32 PM
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shiby_with_it posted...
I mean, good. They are not your kids. To each their own.

Shut up.

Parents alone cannot raise a child. Teachers, friends, neighbors all play as much of a role in the growth of children. When parents seek the treat their child as nothing more than a vehicle to spread their contempt for queer people or other races they need to be stripped of their part in the raising of the child.
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IShall_Run_Amok
09/23/23 12:23:50 PM
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shiby_with_it posted...
I mean, good. They are not your kids. To each their own.
Child abusers should have their kids taken from them so they will be safe.

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Error1355
09/23/23 12:27:00 PM
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"No one should tell me how to parent my kid, so I am going to tell you how to parent your kid" ~Conservatives 2023 without a shred of self awareness.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/23/23 12:32:49 PM
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I work with at-risk youth on a daily basis.

I can promise you these changes will mean the death of more youth. Schools are one of the few places some of these kids can live as their authentic selves, and legislating that teachers and schools cannot address then as their name and their pronouns? We will see a rise in depression, self-harm, and suicide.

But none of these youth can vote so not like fuck-stain Poil cares at all.

It will be a tragic loss of life.

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electricbugs2
09/23/23 1:01:14 PM
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ITT: Americans who dont have a clue about Canadian politics run their mouths.

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KitKats
09/23/23 1:04:56 PM
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shiby_with_it posted...
I mean, good. They are not your kids. To each their own.
Do you think parents have the right to dress their boy up as a girl, even if the child says they are a boy and does not feel comfortable dressing as a girl? They cry and become sad, withdrawn, depressed, riddled with anxiety, unable to form friendships effectively? Unable to effectively express themselves for who they are as a person?

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luigi33
09/23/23 1:27:04 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
ITT: Americans who dont have a clue about Canadian politics run their mouths.
I'm in Canada right now, boi

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NO2_Fiend
09/23/23 1:29:50 PM
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Lol Canada looking more and more like the States since I moved in. You're welcome Canada!

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GranAures
09/23/23 1:39:43 PM
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Error1355 posted...
"No one should tell me how to parent my kid, so I am going to tell you how to parent your kid" ~People without a shred of self awareness.
This.

"Parental rights" have all the same value as "state's rights" anymore.

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electricbugs2
09/23/23 1:40:15 PM
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Lmao

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Aysander
09/23/23 1:54:42 PM
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Zikten posted...
America infected Canada with our conservative virus

We're not infecting anyone with anything. All countries have had people like this, the past half a decade has just given them the feeling that their star is on the rise again so they're infinitely bolder than they were pre-2016.

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Bio1590
09/23/23 2:05:19 PM
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Aysander posted...
We're not infecting anyone with anything. All countries have had people like this, the past half a decade has just given them the feeling that their star is on the rise again so they're infinitely bolder than they were pre-2016.

Nah this movement was 100% imported from the US.

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KitKats
09/23/23 2:08:02 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Nah this movement was 100% imported from the US.
Transphobia is ingrained in societies throughout the world.

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Bio1590
09/23/23 2:24:26 PM
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KitKats posted...
Transphobia is ingrained in societies throughout the world.

This is related to a very specific conservative/right-wing social movement born in the US.

Yes transphobia is ingrained but we're not talking about transphobia in general here.

E: Especially since this movement isn't even just targeted at trans people, but the entire LGBTQ spectrum.

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Dark_Arbron
09/23/23 2:29:59 PM
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Enclave posted...
there's a reason Trudeau broke his election promise

Imagine if the people actually held their leaders accountable?

And I don't mean "vote them out next time they decide to give you the chance," I mean drag them out of office at gunpoint. That is accountability.
Politicians lying isn't something we should treat like a meme. It isn't a joke, it's something that needs pulling out by the root.

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KI_Simpson
09/23/23 2:31:08 PM
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How many of the people blaming conservatives in their area on the US stood up for the majority of Americans who voted against Republicans and had their votes thrown away by the Electoral College and senate?

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UndefeatedGOAT
09/23/23 2:33:30 PM
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Yes, im going to be voting for him

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Dark_Arbron
09/23/23 2:35:02 PM
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UndefeatedGOAT posted...
Yes, im going to be voting for him

I'm sure he offers many positive things to the nation.

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the_crow13
09/23/23 2:35:17 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
ITT: Americans who dont have a clue about Canadian politics run their mouths.

as a Canadian the Americans shitting on PP are 100% correct. Fuck off.

conservatives trying to gaslight others into thinking their anti-lgbt+ bs is just pro parent is the absolute worst

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Vicious_Dios
09/23/23 2:38:53 PM
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Zikten posted...
America infected Canada with our conservative virus

Clown take, tbh.

That's rather condescending towards our neighbors up north, dontcha think?

That their politics completely hinge on our trickled spilled crumbs instead of them being their own entity and decide on their terms without outside influences, namely ours.

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KI_Simpson
09/23/23 2:41:11 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Clown take, tbh.

That's rather condescending towards our neighbors up north, dontcha think?

That their politics completely hinge on our trickled spilled crumbs instead of them being their own entity and decide on their terms without outside influences, namely ours.
Anyone who supports Trump or similar politicians has no claim to being politically intelligent or rational, regardless of their country.

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Vicious_Dios
09/23/23 2:44:03 PM
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That's not how reality works, but you're completely welcomed to cope.

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electricbugs2
09/23/23 2:44:47 PM
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KI_Simpson posted...
Anyone who supports Trump or similar politicians has no claim to being politically intelligent or rational, regardless of their country.
Good thing PP is nothing like Trump then. Seriously the dumbest talking point rn.

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Agonized_rufous
09/23/23 2:45:13 PM
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All children should be taken by the government at age 3, given a test, and redistributed to the best potential parent.

I'd personally would have been with Warren Buffett. He's always been my dad despite what his lawyers have told me

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KI_Simpson
09/23/23 2:46:35 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Good thing PP is nothing like Trump then. Seriously the dumbest talking point rn.
Fuck off, I have every right to say bad things about someone saying parents have the "right" to abuse and have society alienate their children for being LGBT.

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KI_Simpson
09/23/23 2:47:44 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
That's not how reality works, but you're completely welcomed to cope.
No, it actually is how reality works, and if you disagree you're free to give one rational reason for supporting Trump but you're just going to whine about how you're being persecuted because the only reasons you could give would get you modded.

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electricbugs2
09/23/23 2:47:53 PM
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KI_Simpson posted...
Fuck off, I have every right to say bad things about someone saying parents have the "right" to abuse and have society alienate their children for being LGBT.
He never said that.

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KI_Simpson
09/23/23 2:50:22 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
He never said that.
The quoted article shows him saying that "concerns" over schools not having to out trans children to their parents are valid.

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