Current Events > Hypothetically Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo stop making consoles. Who's first?

Topic List	Page List: 1
C-zom 09/20/23 6:29:09 PM #1:	Well CE? - Results (24 votes) Sony 12.5% (3 votes) 3 Microsoft 66.67% (16 votes) 16 Nintendo 8.33% (2 votes) 2 None of them for years to come. 12.5% (3 votes) 3 I've been thumbing through the Microsoft court documents and some discussion threads and it's very interesting stuff. Apparently, Microsoft was going to cash it in after the Xbone and put all of their energy into PC gaming and Windows. Shuffling billions of dollars in R&D budget to strictly making games and being a figurehead in that category. Their CEO pitched Gamepass hard, and won, keeping the Xbox alive for this generation. It got me thinking of Gamepass and the overall landscape for consoles. I wonder if any of the three would be the next to drop out of the "console wars" who it would be realistically. I'd personally say Nintendo, I know their e-shop and network infrastructure is still from the 90s. But I don't think a Switch 2 would sell nearly as well as the first, at least among my friends I've asked. What do you guys think? --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg <cite>C-zom posted [p:976201109] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote> Well CE? - Results (24 votes) Sony 12.5% (3 votes) 3 Microsoft 66.67% (16 votes) 16 Nintendo 8.33% (2 votes) 2 None of them for years to come. 12.5% (3 votes) 3 Show Voting Form I've been thumbing through the Microsoft court documents and some discussion threads and it's very interesting stuff. Apparently, Microsoft was going to cash it in after the Xbone and put all of their energy into PC gaming and Windows. Shuffling billions of dollars in R&D budget to strictly making games and being a figurehead in that category. Their CEO pitched Gamepass hard, and won, keeping the Xbox alive for this generation.It got me thinking of Gamepass and the overall landscape for consoles. I wonder if any of the three would be the next to drop out of the "console wars" who it would be realistically. I'd personally say Nintendo, I know their e-shop and network infrastructure is still from the 90s. But I don't think a Switch 2 would sell nearly as well as the first, at least among my friends I've asked. What do you guys think? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 09/20/23 6:32:11 PM #2:	that's literally Microsoft's corporate strategy to create netflix games --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:976201184] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>that's literally Microsoft's corporate strategy to create netflix games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 09/20/23 6:32:28 PM #3:	From the leaks on the lawsuit MS is considering bailing on gaming by 2027 pending on certain factors. So, if one is to pull out it's them. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:976201187] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>From the leaks on the lawsuit MS is considering bailing on gaming by 2027 pending on certain factors. So, if one is to pull out it's them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 09/20/23 6:35:40 PM #4:	It's that or buying out Nintendo. That's the only way they get a foothold in the rest of the world. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:976201250] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>It's that or buying out Nintendo. That's the only way they get a foothold in the rest of the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 09/20/23 6:54:17 PM #5:	The Xbox brand and PC hasn't been that far apart for a while now. They made some nice chips of late, so maybe they create a PC brand instead of Xbox. They'd also earn more money that way anyways, and they don't have to exit the video game market --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgur.com/krtFHol.jpg <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:976201658] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>The Xbox brand and PC hasn't been that far apart for a while now. They made some nice chips of late, so maybe they create a PC brand instead of Xbox. They'd also earn more money that way anyways, and they don't have to exit the video game market </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/20/23 6:59:20 PM #6:	R_Jackal posted... From the leaks on the lawsuit MS is considering bailing on gaming by 2027 pending on certain factors. So, if one is to pull out it's them. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976201749] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>R_Jackal posted... </cite><quote>From the leaks on the lawsuit MS is considering bailing on gaming by 2027 pending on certain factors. So, if one is to pull out it's them.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 09/20/23 7:12:36 PM #7:	R_Jackal posted... From the leaks on the lawsuit MS is considering bailing on gaming by 2027 pending on certain factors. So, if one is to pull out it's them. What? They're planning a new console in 2028. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:976202039] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>R_Jackal posted... </cite><quote>From the leaks on the lawsuit MS is considering bailing on gaming by 2027 pending on certain factors. So, if one is to pull out it's them.</quote>What? They're planning a new console in 2028. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 09/20/23 7:16:19 PM #8:	jumi posted... What? They're planning a new console in 2028. it was just another stupid "Woe is meee! we can't compete with sonyyy, we're only a poor trillion dollar company" act. --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:976202133] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite><quote>What? They're planning a new console in 2028.</quote>it was just another stupid "Woe is meee! we can't compete with sonyyy, we're only a poor trillion dollar company" act. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 09/20/23 7:19:10 PM #9:	Microsoft in the sense that I think they're aiming to create an ecosystem where they don't need to release hardware. Kinda like what they have going on with Windows. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:976202202] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Microsoft in the sense that I think they're aiming to create an ecosystem where they don't need to release hardware. Kinda like what they have going on with Windows. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 09/20/23 7:21:11 PM #10:	Microsoft. They're betting the farm on Game Pass, they still haven't gotten a solid foothold in the Japanese market and if you own a Windows PC and any modern game controller you basically have an Xbox. --- Thanks for reading! <cite>CRON posted [p:976202229] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Microsoft. They're betting the farm on Game Pass, they still haven't gotten a solid foothold in the Japanese market and if you own a Windows PC and any modern game controller you basically have an Xbox. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 09/20/23 7:21:45 PM #11:	jumi posted... What? They're planning a new console in 2028. From the documents, if GamePass failed they were basically ready to bail is all. If that's a pin for them, stands to reason they're first ones out. If it was true, anyway. Kimbos_Egg posted... it was just another stupid "Woe is meee! we can't compete with sonyyy, we're only a poor trillion dollar company" act. This, basically. Still they're pretty much the only ones that have even toyed with the idea. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:976202236] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite><quote>What? They're planning a new console in 2028.</quote>From the documents, if GamePass failed they were basically ready to bail is all. If that's a pin for them, stands to reason they're first ones out. If it was true, anyway.Kimbos_Egg posted... </cite><quote>it was just another stupid "Woe is meee! we can't compete with sonyyy, we're only a poor trillion dollar company" act.</quote>This, basically. Still they're pretty much the only ones that have even toyed with the idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/20/23 7:22:02 PM #12:	R_Jackal posted... From the leaks on the lawsuit MS is considering bailing on gaming by 2027 pending on certain factors. So, if one is to pull out it's them. Why would they spend 69 billion on Activision just to bail 3 years later? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976202247] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>R_Jackal posted... </cite><quote>From the leaks on the lawsuit MS is considering bailing on gaming by 2027 pending on certain factors. So, if one is to pull out it's them.</quote>Why would they spend 69 billion on Activision just to bail 3 years later? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 09/20/23 7:36:25 PM #13:	Tyranthraxus posted... Why would they spend 69 billion on Activision just to bail 3 years later? Considering is the key. Honestly GamePass is all they care about, and it was basically "if it fails we're out." Also because they don't actually need their gaming division. Even that much money wouldn't be an enormous loss for them if they pulled the plug. Microsoft as a whole is on an entirely different planet compared to Nintendo or Sony. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:976202588] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Why would they spend 69 billion on Activision just to bail 3 years later?</quote>Considering is the key. Honestly GamePass is all they care about, and it was basically "if it fails we're out."Also because they don't actually need their gaming division. Even that much money wouldn't be an enormous loss for them if they pulled the plug. Microsoft as a whole is on an entirely different planet compared to Nintendo or Sony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/20/23 7:37:24 PM #14:	R_Jackal posted... Considering is the key. Honestly GamePass is all they care about, and it was basically "if it fails we're out." Also because they don't actually need their gaming division. Even that much money wouldn't be an enormous loss for them if they pulled the plug. Microsoft as a whole is on an entirely different planet compared to Nintendo or Sony. 69 billion is a lot of money to spend on something you're not committed to. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976202605] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>R_Jackal posted... </cite><quote>Considering is the key. Honestly GamePass is all they care about, and it was basically "if it fails we're out."Also because they don't actually need their gaming division. Even that much money wouldn't be an enormous loss for them if they pulled the plug. Microsoft as a whole is on an entirely different planet compared to Nintendo or Sony.</quote>69 billion is a lot of money to spend on something you're not committed to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 09/20/23 7:43:57 PM #15:	Tyranthraxus posted... 69 billion is a lot of money to spend on something you're not committed to. It is. But in all reality it was probably a document purely intended to try and garner pity. Still in my books if they can toy with the idea openly still means they'd be the first to fold. Not because of money, but of fat trimming if the time comes. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:976202734] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>69 billion is a lot of money to spend on something you're not committed to.</quote>It is.But in all reality it was probably a document purely intended to try and garner pity. Still in my books if they can toy with the idea openly still means they'd be the first to fold. Not because of money, but of fat trimming if the time comes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HA4e 09/20/23 7:51:52 PM #16:	"You want Xbox games? No, screw you! You watch NBA!" --- "They don't decide who you are, you do. You are who you choose to be." Ok sigless <cite>HA4e posted [p:976202899] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>"You want Xbox games? No, screw you! You watch NBA!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/20/23 7:53:22 PM #17:	The only purpose Xbox serves is convincing people to pay an "online" fee for PC games. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:976202940] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>The only purpose Xbox serves is convincing people to pay an "online" fee for PC games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativeme 09/20/23 7:58:17 PM #18:	honestly i doubt microsoft makes another system. they lost every console gen. only the 360 was competive but the ps3 ended up still beating it despite sony being way behind the first few years. they're already 20 million behind the ps5. switch will probably sell more than both combined. i think a switch 2 will still sell pretty decently. probably not the 130 million units the switch has sold but if they keep it cheap and make it different enough from the switch and not fall into the same problems as the wii u i think it'll probably still sell like 80 million or so. but think it does need to be enough of a graphics upgrade to make it look way better than the switch. probably some new gimmick needed for it as well. --- This is a sig <cite>creativeme posted [p:976203034] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>honestly i doubt microsoft makes another system. they lost every console gen. only the 360 was competive but the ps3 ended up still beating it despite sony being way behind the first few years. they're already 20 million behind the ps5. switch will probably sell more than both combined. i think a switch 2 will still sell pretty decently. probably not the 130 million units the switch has sold but if they keep it cheap and make it different enough from the switch and not fall into the same problems as the wii u i think it'll probably still sell like 80 million or so. but think it does need to be enough of a graphics upgrade to make it look way better than the switch. probably some new gimmick needed for it as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 09/20/23 8:00:15 PM #19:	Xbox owns shit like Minecraft and now the COD line. They don't actually need the Xbox brand. The Xbox brand has historically survived off like 3 things: yearly shooters including Halo, yearly Sports games, and Minecraft, which the last of them isn't exclusive to Xbox. Other software don't earn the Xbox brand any money at all to even make up the basic marketing/hosting/production costs, which is why their CEO thinks only hardware matters. Nah, only hardware matters for Xbox cuz their brand fails to actually make software profitable. They bought Activision and Minecraft because they were one of the only things giving the Xbox brand value to begin with. Because the management doesn't like or know the gaming scene as much as they think they do --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgur.com/krtFHol.jpg <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:976203076] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Xbox owns shit like Minecraft and now the COD line. They don't actually need the Xbox brand. The Xbox brand has historically survived off like 3 things: yearly shooters including Halo, yearly Sports games, and Minecraft, which the last of them isn't exclusive to Xbox. Other software don't earn the Xbox brand any money at all to even make up the basic marketing/hosting/production costs, which is why their CEO thinks only hardware matters.Nah, only hardware matters for Xbox cuz their brand fails to actually make software profitable. They bought Activision and Minecraft because they were one of the only things giving the Xbox brand value to begin with. Because the management doesn't like or know the gaming scene as much as they think they do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 09/21/23 8:20:47 AM #20:	Tyranthraxus posted... 69 billion is a lot of money to spend on something you're not committed to. Google: "nice." --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:976211779] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>69 billion is a lot of money to spend on something you're not committed to.</quote>Google: "nice." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Karovorak 09/21/23 8:32:36 AM #21:	Seriously, none of them. Microsoft is going all about the gamepass by now, and the XBox is too relevant for that. The gamepass sells the XBox, and the XBox sells the gamepass, and this is going to be even more true with Activision in the future. And Sony and Nintendo are both doing too good to stop consoles too. If actual hell breakes out, I would assume that Nintendo would be the first to hit a fate like Sega, but that's completly unrealistic right now. --- Planning is the process of replacing chance with error. <cite>Karovorak posted [p:976211938] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Seriously, none of them.Microsoft is going all about the gamepass by now, and the XBox is too relevant for that. The gamepass sells the XBox, and the XBox sells the gamepass, and this is going to be even more true with Activision in the future.And Sony and Nintendo are both doing too good to stop consoles too.If actual hell breakes out, I would assume that Nintendo would be the first to hit a fate like Sega, but that's completly unrealistic right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trelve 09/21/23 8:36:54 AM #22:	Karovorak posted... Seriously, none of them. Microsoft is going all about the gamepass by now, and the XBox is too relevant for that. The gamepass sells the XBox, and the XBox sells the gamepass, and this is going to be even more true with Activision in the future. And Sony and Nintendo are both doing too good to stop consoles too. If actual hell breakes out, I would assume that Nintendo would be the first to hit a fate like Sega, but that's completly unrealistic right now. I'd argue that Game Pass makes it easier for Microsoft to drop the Xbox console. They'll push Game Pass to cloud services and everything under the sun. <cite>Trelve posted [p:976211985] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Karovorak posted... </cite><quote>Seriously, none of them.Microsoft is going all about the gamepass by now, and the XBox is too relevant for that. The gamepass sells the XBox, and the XBox sells the gamepass, and this is going to be even more true with Activision in the future.And Sony and Nintendo are both doing too good to stop consoles too.If actual hell breakes out, I would assume that Nintendo would be the first to hit a fate like Sega, but that's completly unrealistic right now.</quote>I'd argue that Game Pass makes it easier for Microsoft to drop the Xbox console. They'll push Game Pass to cloud services and everything under the sun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Karovorak 09/21/23 8:44:24 AM #23:	Trelve posted... I'd argue that Game Pass makes it easier for Microsoft to drop the Xbox console. They'll push Game Pass to cloud services and everything under the sun. They would still need to sell some casual hardware without the bloating of a windows PC for the TV. Sure, in the worst case it's just some cheap streaming box for cloud gaming, but cloud gaming is just terrible for online multiplayer. --- Planning is the process of replacing chance with error. <cite>Karovorak posted [p:976212088] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Trelve posted... </cite><quote>I'd argue that Game Pass makes it easier for Microsoft to drop the Xbox console. They'll push Game Pass to cloud services and everything under the sun.</quote>They would still need to sell some casual hardware without the bloating of a windows PC for the TV.Sure, in the worst case it's just some cheap streaming box for cloud gaming, but cloud gaming is just terrible for online multiplayer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tri-sapphire 09/21/23 8:48:45 AM #24:	Microsoft easily could, and should, just transition over to budget gaming desktops. --- "If history is to change, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed...I must simply laugh!!."- Magus <cite>tri-sapphire posted [p:976212147] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Microsoft easily could, and should, just transition over to budget gaming desktops. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 09/21/23 8:51:05 AM #25:	Yeah until there's a box that a casual can plug into the TV that Microsoft can install their own store on making an Xbox is gonna be needed. PlayStation and Nintendo are never going to allow what Microsoft wants. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:976212181] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Yeah until there's a box that a casual can plug into the TV that Microsoft can install their own store on making an Xbox is gonna be needed. PlayStation and Nintendo are never going to allow what Microsoft wants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/21/23 9:12:25 AM #26:	Trelve posted... I'd argue that Game Pass makes it easier for Microsoft to drop the Xbox console. They'll push Game Pass to cloud services and everything under the sun. They can't do this unless Sony and Nintendo agree to let them put Game Pass on their consoles. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976212511] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Trelve posted... </cite><quote>I'd argue that Game Pass makes it easier for Microsoft to drop the Xbox console. They'll push Game Pass to cloud services and everything under the sun.</quote>They can't do this unless Sony and Nintendo agree to let them put Game Pass on their consoles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/21/23 9:13:46 AM #27:	tri-sapphire posted... Microsoft easily could, and should, just transition over to budget gaming desktops. They should release the Xbox OS as a discrete thing you can install on any PC. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976212528] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>tri-sapphire posted... </cite><quote>Microsoft easily could, and should, just transition over to budget gaming desktops.</quote>They should release the Xbox OS as a discrete thing you can install on any PC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 09/21/23 9:18:59 AM #28:	honestly i think sony is the prime candidate to go the sega route. they have the software on lock, but their hardware and decisions wrt it constantly suck. microsoft certainly won't out of sheer stubbornness and nintendo is just gonna keep nintendoing --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976212589] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>honestly i think sony is the prime candidate to go the sega route.they have the software on lock, but their hardware and decisions wrt it constantly suck. microsoft certainly won't out of sheer stubbornness and nintendo is just gonna keep nintendoing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trelve 09/21/23 9:24:27 AM #29:	Karovorak posted... They would still need to sell some casual hardware without the bloating of a windows PC for the TV. Sure, in the worst case it's just some cheap streaming box for cloud gaming, but cloud gaming is just terrible for online multiplayer. Samsung are already including Xbox Game Pass on their TVs, I'm sure that Microsoft are courting other TV manufacturers. I'm sure Chromecasts and Fire TV sticks already support it. I'm pretty sure that Microsoft are banking heavily on cloud gaming for the future. <cite>Trelve posted [p:976212687] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Karovorak posted... </cite><quote>They would still need to sell some casual hardware without the bloating of a windows PC for the TV.Sure, in the worst case it's just some cheap streaming box for cloud gaming, but cloud gaming is just terrible for online multiplayer.</quote>Samsung are already including Xbox Game Pass on their TVs, I'm sure that Microsoft are courting other TV manufacturers. I'm sure Chromecasts and Fire TV sticks already support it. I'm pretty sure that Microsoft are banking heavily on cloud gaming for the future. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 09/21/23 10:15:48 AM #30:	Microsoft for reasons most people stated already. Also Sony and Nintendo's profits are heavily tied to their console business. Both companies would have to do a lot of pivoting to adapt their businesses with no consoles. On the other hand, consoles are a side business for Microsoft that has been unprofitable a lot of time. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:976213520] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>Microsoft for reasons most people stated already.Also Sony and Nintendo's profits are heavily tied to their console business. Both companies would have to do a lot of pivoting to adapt their businesses with no consoles. On the other hand, consoles are a side business for Microsoft that has been unprofitable a lot of time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 09/21/23 12:49:53 PM #31:	tri-sapphire posted... Microsoft easily could, and should, just transition over to budget gaming desktops. Valve's always had that niche covered for the PC landscape (ie. Steammachines, Steamdeck.) --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:976216907] in Hypothetic... [t:80572301]...</cite> <quote>tri-sapphire posted... </cite><quote>Microsoft easily could, and should, just transition over to budget gaming desktops.</quote>Valve's always had that niche covered for the PC landscape (ie. Steammachines, Steamdeck.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1

Current Events > Hypothetically Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo stop making consoles. Who's first? (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Hypothetically Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo stop making consoles. Who's first?