Current Events > Remember when Ser Barristan Selmy....(spoilers)

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lilORANG
09/19/23 10:29:43 PM
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Got killed by some rich dude in a skirt?

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chaos_knight
09/19/23 10:38:28 PM
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Yep. Or at least until GRRM finishes his damn books, so this is currently the canon.

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darkace77450
09/19/23 10:40:59 PM
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Remember when Oberyn's lover avenged his death at a Lannister lackey's hands by killing Oberyn's brother and nephew, neither of whom had anything to do with his death?
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darkace77450
09/19/23 10:46:08 PM
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Remember when Cersei murdered the most popular nobles and clergy in the realm and destroyed the people's most holy site and nobody cared?
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chaos_knight
09/19/23 10:46:45 PM
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Remember when Daenerys forgot about the Iron Fleet, but they didn't forget about her?

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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/19/23 10:46:56 PM
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Remember when the White Walkers were in the first scene of the show and then they ended up having no significant impact on the events of the Seven Kingdoms and no lasting effect at all on Westeros?

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ironman2009
09/19/23 10:47:51 PM
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Remember when Tyrion was smart

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chaos_knight
09/19/23 10:48:32 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
Remember when Tyrion was smart

Remember when Varys was smart, and didn't openly tell everyone he was going to do treason?

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darkace77450
09/19/23 10:49:13 PM
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Remember when a commoner who doesn't know what a bank loan is was named Master of Coin?
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Euripides
09/19/23 10:50:29 PM
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Remember when Bran being the Three-Eyed Raven was supposed to mean something?

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darkace77450
09/19/23 10:51:24 PM
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Remember when Davos asked a woman he loathes to perform magic he didn't know she's capable of to resurrect a man he just met?
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chaos_knight
09/19/23 10:51:25 PM
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Euripides posted...
Remember when Bran being the Three-Eyed Raven was supposed to mean something?

Yeah, it meant he was the one with the best story...somehow.

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McMarbles
09/19/23 10:51:30 PM
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Remember when GRR occasionally finished a book?

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TheDurinator
09/19/23 10:51:37 PM
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I remain convinced that the reason GRRM will never release the last two books is because all of the terrible ideas in the second half of the TV show were actually his and he can't deal with everyone hating it.
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Euripides
09/19/23 10:52:16 PM
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TheDurinator posted...
I remain convinced that the reason GRRM will never release the last two books is because all of the terrible ideas in the second half of the TV show were actually his and he can't deal with everyone hating it.

That, plus he wrote himself into 67 storylines and has no idea how to finish any of them

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bigtiggie23
09/19/23 10:53:21 PM
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Remember when Theon was feeling up his sister while they were on a horse and she didn't immediately stop him?

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chaos_knight
09/19/23 10:53:51 PM
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The backlash and hatred with what happened with Bran probably spooked Martin into not finishing his books. He wanted him to be king I'm 100% sure of.

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Gritty
09/19/23 10:54:39 PM
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I membah
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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/19/23 10:55:45 PM
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bigtiggie23 posted...
Remember when Theon was feeling up his sister while they were on a horse and she didn't immediately stop him?

Pretty sure that at least happens in the books too lol

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darkace77450
09/19/23 10:56:00 PM
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TheDurinator posted...
I remain convinced that the reason GRRM will never release the last two books is because all of the terrible ideas in the second half of the TV show were actually his and he can't deal with everyone hating it.

I refuse to believe Cersei doing fuck all in King's Landing is his plan, that Euron's sole contribution to the story is going to be trolling/cucking Jamie, that Aegon isn't going to have a meaningful impact on Dany's mindset, or that the Others are going to be irrelevant.

Bran may be the one who ultimately sits the Iron Throne, but it's not going to be after being absent from the story for much of the last two books. There's going to be something that makes his ascension more organic than what we got in the show.
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darkace77450
09/19/23 10:57:43 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
The backlash and hatred with what happened with Bran probably spooked Martin into not finishing his books.

The tens of millions of dollars and worldwide fame is what's led to him not finishing the books. He's clearly not passionate about finishing this story, and the fortune he's amassed means he doesn't have to.
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Euripides
09/19/23 10:58:49 PM
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darkace77450 posted...


Bran may be the one who ultimately sits the Iron Throne, but it's not going to be after being absent from the story for much of the last two books. There's going to be something that makes his ascension more organic than what we got in the show.

I didn't hate the prevailing theory that his ability to look back through time is what started the White Walkers to begin with.

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008Zulu
09/19/23 11:02:49 PM
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I read the title of this topic too quickly; "Remember when Sexy Barristan Selmy"

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chaos_knight
09/19/23 11:03:46 PM
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Remember when Jon Snow's brain could process more than "She's mah queen" and "I don't want it"

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DrizztLink
09/19/23 11:04:54 PM
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Remember when Tyrion's sidekick had a whole sideplot about being so good at fuckin' that whores refused to charge him?

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pegusus123456
09/19/23 11:05:17 PM
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TheDurinator posted...
I remain convinced that the reason GRRM will never release the last two books is because all of the terrible ideas in the second half of the TV show were actually his and he can't deal with everyone hating it.
The biggest issue is that the ending was rushed. Those various plot points work fine if they're fleshed out.

The books in general are better at making characters more grey and you've already kind of seen Dany being a little harsh, so her burning down King's Landing needn't be too wild.

Bran becoming the Three-Eyed Raven could just mean that he's sort of subsumed by Bloodraven's personality, so him becoming king is a 3D chess move to take control of Westeros.

Even Arya killing the Night King could be improved. Like even in the show, if she'd used her face swapping to hide as one of the wights to get close to him instead of doing a NANI?! anime leap, it would have been much improved. But the Night King also isn't even in the books, at least so far, so that might just be some shit they made up.

DrizztLink posted...
Remember when Tyrion's sidekick had a whole sideplot about being so good at fuckin' that whores refused to charge him?

I think they did stuff like that so audiences would remember them.

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DarthAragorn
09/19/23 11:07:52 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Remember when Oberyn's lover avenged his death at a Lannister lackey's hands by killing Oberyn's brother and nephew, neither of whom had anything to do with his death?
Remember when Oberyn "we don't hurt little girls in Dorne" Martell's lover hurt a little girl in Dorne

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ironman2009
09/19/23 11:08:37 PM
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Remember when Honorable Ned Stark had a bastard?

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Quorthon109
09/19/23 11:09:36 PM
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Remember when Bobby Boucher showed up at halftime and the Mud Dogs won the Bourbon Bowl, do ya?!

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chaos_knight
09/19/23 11:10:29 PM
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Quorthon109 posted...
Remember when Bobby Boucher showed up at halftime and the Mud Dogs won the Bourbon Bowl, do ya?!

Was that before or after the Clegane Bowl? Forget.

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ironman2009
09/19/23 11:11:52 PM
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Remember when Davos told a eunuch to start his own house?

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radical_rhino
09/19/23 11:17:20 PM
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Selmys death was great and very in-line with the shows running theme that legends are bullshit. He can be historys greatest swordsman, but hes going to get fucked just the same if hes surrounded by 10 guys in a narrow alley at the age of 65.

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masterpug53
09/19/23 11:22:01 PM
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Barristan's death was definitely the show's tipping point for me personally, where it went from 'had a few missteps and strange decisions but still a damn good show overall' to 'what the ever loving fuck is going on here?!'

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UnholyMudcrab
09/19/23 11:30:37 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
Selmys death was great
Incorrect.

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Zikten
09/19/23 11:34:27 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Remember when Oberyn's lover avenged his death at a Lannister lackey's hands by killing Oberyn's brother and nephew, neither of whom had anything to do with his death?
Yea I still have idea wtf was up with that. That entire subplot made no fucking sense
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darkace77450
09/20/23 7:56:25 AM
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masterpug53 posted...
Barristan's death was definitely the show's tipping point for me personally, where it went from 'had a few missteps and strange decisions but still a damn good show overall' to 'what the ever loving fuck is going on here?!'

My tipping point was Arya running parkour through Braavos days after swimming through an open sewer with multiple perforations to her abdomen.
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hockeybub89
09/20/23 7:58:48 AM
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Remember Bran the Broken? lmao

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TomClark
09/20/23 8:01:43 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
The backlash and hatred with what happened with Bran probably spooked Martin into not finishing his books. He wanted him to be king I'm 100% sure of.

I'm convinced that the last episode and a half of the show is exactly how the books are (were?) planned to finish.

The absolute recklessness with which they hurriedly wrapped up show-specific character arcs and storylines and wrote out people not involved in the ending just reeked (hah!) of "Oh shit, we have four episodes to get from where we are to where we're told we need to be, and we don't know how to get there!"

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nevershine
09/20/23 8:02:02 AM
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Remember that mysterious chick Quaith who was supposed to have some kind of impact on the story, but only appeared once in the show?

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darkace77450
09/20/23 8:09:59 AM
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nevershine posted...
Remember that mysterious chick Quaith who was supposed to have some kind of impact on the story, but only appeared once in the show?

To be fair, I have no idea how GRRM's going to pay that off with only two books left to get Dany from where she's at at the end of Dance to where she needs to be for the finale in Westeros. This is especially true if her cryptic words are supposed to point Dany to Asshai.
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Mortainous28
09/20/23 8:21:11 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Pretty sure that at least happens in the books too lol

No. In book 2 Theon was met by an uncle and brought before his father, his sister was present and he was aware of who she was.

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SaikyoStyle
09/20/23 8:23:17 AM
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Zikten posted...
Yea I still have idea wtf was up with that. That entire subplot made no fucking sense
Dorne was where the show was officially ruined for me. It was odd that so many other people had no complaints until the last season.

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darkace77450
09/20/23 8:26:57 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Dorne was where the show was officially ruined for me.

Adding insult to injury is Alexander Siddig could have been a great Doran.
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chaos_knight
09/20/23 8:32:12 AM
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TomClark posted...
I'm convinced that the last episode and a half of the show is exactly how the books are (were?) planned to finish.

The absolute recklessness with which they hurriedly wrapped up show-specific character arcs and storylines and wrote out people not involved in the ending just reeked (hah!) of "Oh shit, we have four episodes to get from where we are to where we're told we need to be, and we don't know how to get there!"

Dumb and Dumber had a lucrative Disney deal for a Star Wars trilogy. HBO wanted to give them more seasons for GoT but those two wanted to hurry and finish for their new project. Which never happened.

D&D are pariahs and deserve to be outcasts. Fuck them both.

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Enderknight17
09/20/23 8:33:10 AM
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McMarbles posted...
Remember when GRR occasionally finished a book?

No, sadly...

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SuperSaiyanTien
09/20/23 8:34:42 AM
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People complain about the last season meanwhile I still believe GRRM was stupid for killing off some very compelling characters early on and giving some meh characters the spotlight later on solely due to the fact that really compelling characters were killed off early.


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havean776
09/20/23 8:51:38 AM
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darkace77450 posted...
Remember when Oberyn's lover avenged his death at a Lannister lackey's hands by killing Oberyn's brother and nephew, neither of whom had anything to do with his death?
We need ot avenge Oberyn!
Step 1 kill the rest of his family.

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masterpug53
09/20/23 9:26:06 AM
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darkace77450 posted...
My tipping point was Arya running parkour through Braavos days after swimming through an open sewer with multiple perforations to her abdomen.

Barristan was my tipping point, but what you described was the absolute nadir of the show for me, even counting S8's shenanigans. I came damn close to giving up on GoT altogether after that, but then the last episode of S6 just had to come along and be one of the single best episodes in the series. So naturally I was compelled to ride things out to the end to see if any more diamonds appeared in the rough (spoiler: they didn't.)

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lilORANG
09/20/23 9:26:32 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Remember when Oberyn "we don't hurt little girls in Dorne" Martell's lover hurt a little girl in Dorne
Hey man, she died in international waters!

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