Current Events > W...Wait a minute. Did Vegeta kill more people in the android arc than they did?

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09/19/23 1:02:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcHIikdrhjQ&t=320
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Doe
09/19/23 1:03:26 PM
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Am I supposed to just skim through this ten minute video to look for places where Vegeta kills people

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09/19/23 1:23:23 PM
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Whaaat. Why didn't the timestamp work
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Nemu
09/19/23 1:25:47 PM
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Pretty sure it's all anime filler. Other than the Buu Saga, I don't think he ever kills anyone after Namek.
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GS4Life
09/19/23 1:27:53 PM
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Nemu posted...
Pretty sure it's all anime filler. Other than the Buu Saga, I don't think he ever kills anyone after Namek.
Him jumping from car to car on the highway is filler IIRC

But him blowing up the truck driver with that pseudo Big Bang Attack is Canon

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Ratchetrockon
09/19/23 1:29:50 PM
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Yeah he just kills random people sometimes he can't help it

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FL81
09/19/23 1:38:46 PM
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the main-timeline androids didn't kill anyone other than Dr. Gero

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Irony
09/19/23 1:46:48 PM
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I'll kill as many people as I have to

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Gobstoppers12
09/19/23 1:51:33 PM
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Irony posted...
I'll kill as many people as I have to
As long as you are one of them!

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Vegy
09/20/23 11:18:10 AM
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Revisited posted...
Whaaat. Why didn't the timestamp work

Yea, dunno why youtube hasn't fixed dat tbh

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Starks
09/20/23 11:21:42 AM
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Revisited posted...
Whaaat. Why didn't the timestamp work
It works unless people decide to ignore it and use the embed

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SayHeyyShohei
09/20/23 11:24:05 AM
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Never watched DBZ. Not only is Vegeta a jobber, but he murders people too?

Why do people like this character again?

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Kimbos_Egg
09/20/23 11:25:28 AM
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the androids destroyed entire citys.. cell destroyed the entire army and most of a city..

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Srk700
09/20/23 11:41:23 AM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
Never watched DBZ. Not only is Vegeta a jobber, but he murders people too?

Why do people like this character again?

He does show some character development throughout the series. Unlike the main character who is basically the same character that he was way back in the original Dragon Ball
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mehmeh1
09/20/23 11:41:54 AM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
the androids destroyed entire citys.. cell destroyed the entire army and most of a city..
All the main timeline androids did was kill Gero and steal a truck and some clothes

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SayHeyyShohei
09/20/23 11:42:18 AM
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Srk700 posted...
He does show some character development throughout the series. Unlike the main character who is basically the same character that he was way back in the original Dragon Ball

But was Goku ever a jobber and murder people?

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Kimbos_Egg
09/20/23 11:46:05 AM
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mehmeh1 posted...
All the main timeline androids did was kill Gero and steal a truck and some clothes

i was referring to old man and clown.

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Robot2600
09/20/23 11:46:48 AM
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yea he kills like 50,000 people when he blows up a stadium, i thought

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LordFarquad1312
09/20/23 11:48:36 AM
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Vegeta & associates probably killed more humans than most other DB antagonists except Buu.

And Frieza, but he doesn't count, kinda.

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Srk700
09/20/23 11:48:54 AM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
But was Goku ever a jobber and murder people?

Murder no, aside from villains that deserved it. He has jobber plenty of times though. He just gets enough major wins that it counteracts all the times he's jobbed.
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mach25687
09/20/23 11:49:04 AM
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Why are you guys surprised? Vegeta wasn't a fully good guy at the beginning of the Android saga and I bet if Trunks didn't go with him to HTC he would have destroyed the world with his Final Flash.

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SayHeyyShohei
09/20/23 11:50:14 AM
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Srk700 posted...
Murder no, aside from villains that deserved it. He has jobber plenty of times though. He just gets enough major wins that it counteracts all the times he's jobbed.

Losing =\= jobbing. If he's winning enough times and big wins as well, sounds like he's a regular hero.

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Solid_Sonic
09/20/23 11:52:25 AM
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Thank you for calling it an "arc". I never liked how FUNi called the smaller story phases "sagas".

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Gobstoppers12
09/20/23 11:57:17 AM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
Never watched DBZ. Not only is Vegeta a jobber, but he murders people too?

Why do people like this character again?
Okay, whose alt? Is that you Scotty?

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2Pacavelli
09/20/23 12:33:59 PM
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Not more than Cell, Cell did major damage to a city when announcing the Cell games, and also absorbed countless amounts of people. He also destroyed the army when they came up try to defend the earth
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2Pacavelli
09/20/23 12:36:26 PM
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Not only that Android 19 and Dr. Gero killed a lot of people when they first attacked the city as well

https://youtu.be/gF1GfaQI6zw?si=0OxXDM37WjieiWdG

Vegeta only killed that Truck Driver when fighting Android 18
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2Pacavelli
09/20/23 12:37:47 PM
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DBZ abridged is innacurate and makes a complete mockery of the series. They over exaggerate a lot especially Goku's alleged stupidity
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Gobstoppers12
09/20/23 12:39:32 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
DBZ abridged is innacurate and makes a complete mockery of the series. They over exaggerate a lot especially Goku's alleged stupidity
But the story in DBZA is almost completely identical the DBZ anime.

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2Pacavelli
09/20/23 12:40:33 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
But the story in DBZA is almost completely identical the DBZ anime.

It's not
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Solid_Sonic
09/20/23 12:41:25 PM
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Gohan's daddy issues always rub me the wrong way. Feels overly mean-spirited.

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2Pacavelli
09/20/23 12:43:35 PM
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Solid_Sonic posted...
Gohan's daddy issues always rub me the wrong way. Feels overly mean-spirited.

Yeah Goku sacrifices his life multiple times for Gohan. And everything we've seen in the original content shows that Gohan loves his Father and strongly desires to make him proud.

And Goku never judges Gohan whether he wants to go into studying or into martial arts. He always encourages Gohan and actually has shown and given him compliments for how smart he is
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Gobstoppers12
09/20/23 12:43:51 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
It's not
It changes a couple of things, but the actual course of events is pretty much exactly the same. The dialogue is punched up for comedy, but... basically everything that happens actually happened in the original series lol

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Solid_Sonic
09/20/23 1:48:04 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Yeah Goku sacrifices his life multiple times for Gohan. And everything we've seen in the original content shows that Gohan loves his Father and strongly desires to make him proud.

And Goku never judges Gohan whether he wants to go into studying or into martial arts. He always encourages Gohan and actually has shown and given him compliments for how smart he is

DBFZ tried to make it sound like Goku was secretly resentful of his son's priorities but they patched it out after launch.

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2Pacavelli
09/20/23 8:01:53 PM
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Solid_Sonic posted...
DBFZ tried to make it sound like Goku was secretly resentful of his son's priorities but they patched it out after launch.

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Jiek_Fafn
09/20/23 8:11:40 PM
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Those people are fine. I can see their parachutes

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FL81
09/21/23 12:40:11 AM
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Solid_Sonic posted...
Thank you for calling it an "arc". I never liked how FUNi called the smaller story phases "sagas".
saga sounds cooler though

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Questionmarktarius
09/21/23 12:42:53 AM
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Vegeta is a bit of an ass. You should have figured this out by now.
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Solid_Sonic
09/21/23 5:30:02 AM
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FL81 posted...
saga sounds cooler though

I still use the term, I just use it to refer to an entire plot so I only believe there are four sagas in DBZ. It was just how I was originally introduced to the series (the website that allowed me to dive deep into the subject before the series was fully available locally generally broke it down into four major sagas).

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Kaihedgie
09/21/23 5:34:32 AM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
Never watched DBZ. Not only is Vegeta a jobber, but he murders people too?

Why do people like this character again?
Because he's an edgelord. A lot of impressionable teens and kids were exposed to him in the Toonami and early YouTube days. He only truly became tolerable and mostly grew out of his bad habits in Super.

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chaos_knight
09/21/23 5:35:42 AM
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In Dragon Ball, murder is only temporary. Ignoring that, he had one of the best character arcs next to Gohan.

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GS4Life
09/21/23 8:32:47 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
In Dragon Ball, murder is only temporary. Ignoring that, he had one of the best character arcs next to Gohan.
in a lot of cases yes but I don't think that truck driver was ever brought back

nor were the village of Namekians he slaughtered

not to mention who knows many killed back in the day working under Freeza


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Gobstoppers12
09/21/23 2:21:46 PM
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GS4Life posted...
nor were the village of Namekians he slaughtered
They were, it just wasn't on screen.

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MuscleRobo
09/21/23 2:23:40 PM
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Team Four Star? No thank you
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Gobstoppers12
09/21/23 2:24:06 PM
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MuscleRobo posted...
Team Four Star? No thank you
They are amazing to be honest.

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mehmeh1
09/21/23 3:26:55 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
They were, it just wasn't on screen.
The other Namekians literally said that village didn't come back, and then the Super manga doubled down on it

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Irony
09/21/23 3:29:15 PM
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That's because they tried to wish back everybody that were killed by Freeza's men but at that point Vegeta wasn't one of his men anymore

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Doe
09/21/23 3:31:55 PM
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Why didn't they go wish the guys Vegeta killed back too? Considering in Super ppl use them for things as trivial as making their butt bigger

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Irony
09/21/23 3:33:12 PM
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There was no time

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codey
09/21/23 3:33:44 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
DBZ abridged is innacurate and makes a complete mockery of the series. They over exaggerate a lot especially Goku's alleged stupidity

Goku isn't allegedly dumb, he is dumb.

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A_Good_Boy
09/21/23 3:33:50 PM
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Doe posted...
Why didn't they go wish the guys Vegeta killed back too? Considering in Super ppl use them for things as trivial as making their butt bigger
Because Vegeta already forgave himself and was ready to move on.

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