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Smashingpmkns
09/19/23 1:49:38 AM
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Dunno if anyone's interested in one of these for this game. It's been pretty fun so far. Only on ch3 of the story cuz it's late and I wasn't gonna spend a billion gamer bucks to play a few days early.

It's crazy how good the cinematics are.

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Prestoff
09/19/23 2:10:16 AM
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If there is one thing NRS knows how to do well, it's the cinematics. I'm also happy to say the gameplay is a whole lot of fun. Dial a combo thing is going to get some getting used to after playing SF6 a lot, but the amount of sauce I could find with the Kameos system is off the rails. This is one of the few games I'm actually having fun labbing


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Smashingpmkns
09/19/23 3:03:31 AM
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The gameplay is really fun and it feels a lot better than 11. I do miss the interactive environments tho.

I will say that SF6 really knocked it out of the park for a sequel in that series and MK1 feels like a bit of a step back in many ways for NR. MK11 had so much unlockable shit and a bunch of QOL improvements from MK10. In MK1 you can't even pin a combo. Hell, player 2 can't even select a stage. Some really weird shit is missing like hidden character select and player 2's move list doesn't contain any fatality inputs smh.

I hope they do a major update soon cuz the game is fun as hell but it needs a lot of QOL stuff added.

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Prestoff
09/19/23 11:36:27 AM
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I'll be fully honest, I didn't even notice a lot of the QOL issues because I really only play this game online, but I did notice that you couldn't pin combos which is incredibly stupid. It's most likely an oversight that can easily get patched, but it's also kind of hard to write it off as an "oversight" with how huge NRS is.

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Smashingpmkns
09/19/23 2:08:16 PM
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Yeah there's a lot of stuff that it seems like they missed or didn't care to put in. Shame because this might be the best gameplay in the series since 9.

I'm going through the tutorials while working and "up block" is a neat new mechanic. Very simple but effective. The flawless block timing is harder than the perfect parry in SF6 >.>

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TMOG
09/19/23 2:10:36 PM
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I did think the story was pretty good in this one right up until the final act

A little disappointed in Kameos though, they don't feel like I thought they would. I was hoping for something you could activate at any time without breaking the flow of combat but instead you can only use them when you're not already being combo'd, and your character just... stops moving when you call one.
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TMOG
09/19/23 2:12:05 PM
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Also disappointed that Switch owners have to wait "a couple weeks" for Invasions content, considering that the desire to grind out Invasions without being tethered to my TV or computer is what prompted me to go for the Switch version in the first place.

Really hoping that NRS decides to be fair and either give Switch owners extra time to play this season, or at the very least a bump in their seasonal currency to help get the gear that they may not have time to earn via gameplay now.
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Noname12
09/19/23 2:12:33 PM
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I bought the collectors edition off Amazon but i couldnt play until last night. Got to chapter 4. Its really fun. Feels like a movie

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Srk700
09/19/23 2:23:31 PM
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TMOG posted...
I did think the story was pretty good in this one right up until the final act

A little disappointed in Kameos though, they don't feel like I thought they would. I was hoping for something you could activate at any time without breaking the flow of combat but instead you can only use them when you're not already being combo'd, and your character just... stops moving when you call one.

There are certain kameo moves that you can use seamlessly in combat (provided you aren't in hitstun). Like that spinning attack that Cyrax does.
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Tyranthraxus
09/19/23 2:25:59 PM
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Noname12 posted...
I bought the collectors edition off Amazon but i couldnt play until last night. Got to chapter 4. Its really fun. Feels like a movie
It is literally a movie. Like, you could cut a bunch of stuff to get it under a 2 hour time and make a genuinely great movie out of it.

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random_man9119
09/19/23 2:49:41 PM
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I finished up the story this morning... Really enjoyed it... I like the new timeline and some the changes it's made...

I've played a bit of Invasions and that's pretty fun so far too...

I've weirdly grown to like Johnny Cage a lot... Which I've never disliked him but I've never been this good with his moveset...

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Smashingpmkns
09/19/23 2:51:04 PM
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TMOG posted...
I did think the story was pretty good in this one right up until the final act

A little disappointed in Kameos though, they don't feel like I thought they would. I was hoping for something you could activate at any time without breaking the flow of combat but instead you can only use them when you're not already being combo'd, and your character just... stops moving when you call one.
You can use the Kameos to bust out of kombos too. You can also use them to extend most kombos, especially juggles. The timing is extremely weird coming from SF6. I suggest doing the tutorial cuz there's a lot of shit you can do with the Kameos.

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Smashingpmkns
09/19/23 2:53:20 PM
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Johnny Cage might be my favorite character in this game, personality wise, but I'm gonna stick with Smoke and maybe Kenshi for a while. Kenshi's clone moves are fucking flashy as fuck.

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Srk700
09/19/23 2:54:04 PM
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Also have to give this game credit for making me like Baraka. He was always a character that I never really liked from both a gameplay + story perspective, but he's been one of my favorite characters in both aspects in this game.
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GeneralKenobi85
09/19/23 3:36:37 PM
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Srk700 posted...
Also have to give this game credit for making me like Baraka. He was always a character that I never really liked from both a gameplay + story perspective, but he's been one of my favorite characters in both aspects in this game.
Yeah even for Baraka fans, the consensus is that this version of the character is probably the best version in the series. He plays well from what I've seen, and obviously the story finally has done him some justice for once.

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Tyranthraxus
09/19/23 3:56:24 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
Yeah even for Baraka fans, the consensus is that this version of the character is probably the best version in the series. He plays well from what I've seen, and obviously the story finally has done him some justice for once.
The story of so many characters was just shit for most of early mk history. Like half the roster of bad guys was basically "assassin for Shao Kahn no explanation why"

Then they started adding stupid extras to characters mistaking it for history like "Reptile started reverting back to feral version"

MK1 reptile isn't exactly deep but I still prefer his story to old reptile.

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PeteyParker
09/19/23 4:07:54 PM
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Finished the story over the weekend, which is surprising for me because I don't usually get through these things that quickly (and I wasn't home on Saturday). I thought it was great except for the last chapter which was kind of weak and the final battle was also pretty easy. I've been playing Invasions now to try and get the Hanzo skin but I'm only on the second mesa so far. At least I have plenty of time left.

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Prestoff
09/19/23 5:55:05 PM
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Reptile and Baraka got the best end of the stick from this reboot, where instead of unimportant jobbers, they become actual characters with great cool moments as well. The ones that got the worst end of the stick are the 3D MK characters like Nitara, Havik, Darius, and especially Reiko...who became the new jobbers. Though Titan Havik looks to be pretty interesting, it screams DLC story which I honestly won't mind buying. I seriously hope we get Harumi as a DLC character in the future, we need more female fighters!

And I'm with everyone that the worst part about the story mode was the final chapter (other than Megan Fox). The NRS team had a lot of fun with the fusion characters but by then you knew exactly how everything was going to end. I also have get used to the fact that almost everyone in the arcade ending gets good endings, but that's because this is Liu Kang's universe so it makes sense why lol.

TMOG posted...
Also disappointed that Switch owners have to wait "a couple weeks" for Invasions content, considering that the desire to grind out Invasions without being tethered to my TV or computer is what prompted me to go for the Switch version in the first place.

Really hoping that NRS decides to be fair and either give Switch owners extra time to play this season, or at the very least a bump in their seasonal currency to help get the gear that they may not have time to earn via gameplay now.

NRS kind of overcorrected because they were afraid of the Kameo system being too busted, so thats why they have that awkward "pose" thing except for when they do their "ambush attacks", which are ones that don't make your character do a "pose". Honestly, their best optimal use is for combo extensions.

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Srk700
09/19/23 6:29:58 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Reptile and Baraka got the best end of the stick from this reboot, where instead of unimportant jobbers, they become actual characters with great cool moments as well

I'd add Mileena to that group as well. Although it is odd Liu Kang would pick her to be Sindel's heir instead of Kitana.
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Smashingpmkns
09/19/23 8:22:17 PM
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The difficulty jump from normal to hard is insane lol I haven't gotten used to the kombat yet so hopefully I'll get there one day >.>

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Heineken14
09/19/23 8:28:26 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...

It is literally a movie. Like, you could cut a bunch of stuff to get it under a 2 hour time and make a genuinely great movie out of it.


I watched the entire thing. It's like 3 something hours all together. Definitely a cool little mini series that I thoroughly enjoyed watching while doing other shit.

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Tyranthraxus
09/19/23 8:28:53 PM
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Prestoff posted...
The NRS team had a lot of fun with the fusion characters

I hope we can make our own some day because that shit was amazing

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Heineken14
09/19/23 8:29:07 PM
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random_man9119 posted...
I've weirdly grown to like Johnny Cage a lot... Which I've never disliked him but I've never been this good with his moveset...


Johnny was such a wholesome bro. Lol

Reptile and baraka was awesome too.

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Blue_Inigo
09/19/23 8:29:19 PM
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You guys liking this game or what

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Smashingpmkns
09/20/23 2:55:47 AM
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Anybody getting pretty bad banding in the deep blacks during cutscenes? Never had this issue with any other game.

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Beveren_Rabbit
09/20/23 3:17:20 AM
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game is not even out yet. the only people able to play are streamers and journalists to hype up the game before worldwide launch.

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TMOG
09/20/23 5:10:32 AM
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Is it wrong that I'm starting to like the Switch graphics, lol

Kind of reminding me of how goofy everything looked in the Deadly Alliance/Deception days, which I guess is really fitting with this game's roster and storyline

I mean, yeah, they still look bad, but they're starting to look charmingly bad to me
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jumi
09/20/23 5:32:19 AM
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Srk700 posted...
I'd add Mileena to that group as well. Although it is odd Liu Kang would pick her to be Sindel's heir instead of Kitana.

He knows with Mileena on the throne and Kitana less busy, he got more a chance at that Kitussy.

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PeteyParker
09/20/23 7:25:22 AM
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TMOG posted...
Is it wrong that I'm starting to like the Switch graphics, lol

Kind of reminding me of how goofy everything looked in the Deadly Alliance/Deception days, which I guess is really fitting with this game's roster and storyline

I mean, yeah, they still look bad, but they're starting to look charmingly bad to me

My wife has a Switch so I got her that version and I got the PS5. I've been thinking of it like the PS5 is the arcade version and the Switch is the SNES/Genesis versions. The graphics aren't as strong but it still gets the job done, just like those home ports did.

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Srk700
09/20/23 9:08:45 AM
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jumi posted...
He knows with Mileena on the throne and Kitana less busy, he got more a chance at that Kitussy.

Raiden vs Liu Kang is probably going to happen again in this timeline then, because Raiden is also trying to get that.
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Tyranthraxus
09/20/23 9:13:03 AM
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Srk700 posted...
Raiden vs Liu Kang is probably going to happen again in this timeline then, because Raiden is also trying to get that.

Raiden gonna get with Edenian Kitana, Liu Kang gonna hook up with Titan Kitana.

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Jupiter
09/20/23 9:18:17 AM
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I REALLY hate how they did Bi-Han in this game. Dude is straight up evil. OG Bi-Han was not an asshole like this. I mean yea sure, he wasn't like a super hero, but this new Bi-Han is just an unlikable asshole.

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Tyranthraxus
09/20/23 9:19:52 AM
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Jupiter posted...
I REALLY hate how they did Bi-Han in this game. Dude is straight up evil. OG Bi-Han was not evil.

He was evil until MK4 retconned it.

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dave_is_slick
09/20/23 9:22:18 AM
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I was not expecting the story to be actually good instead of just cool. Damn near everybody had actual reasons and motivations for doing things this time around. Fucking Li Mei of all characters had a little arc!

They've always been damn good at cinematics, which is still true, but literally everything else was a massive step up. Voice acting (minus Megan Fox, dunno what happened there), environment, facial expressions, they had bills to pay.

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Jupiter
09/20/23 9:32:10 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
He was evil until MK4 retconned it.
Evil how? He didn't even have much of a backstory until MKM:SZ.

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Tyranthraxus
09/20/23 9:36:43 AM
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Jupiter posted...
Evil how? He didn't even have much of a backstory until MKM:SZ.

He was a contract killer who murdered people for money including kids.

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jefffan
09/20/23 9:50:37 AM
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Jupiter posted...
I REALLY hate how they did Bi-Han in this game. Dude is straight up evil. OG Bi-Han was not an asshole like this. I mean yea sure, he wasn't like a super hero, but this new Bi-Han is just an unlikable asshole.
This was just a setup to his Noob emergence in the next game probably.

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GunmaN1905
09/20/23 9:51:56 AM
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Gameplay is great, but they need to balance out kameos a bit more, everyone is using the same kameos.

Invasions seem better than krypt.

Monetization is disgusting.

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Jupiter
09/20/23 9:53:39 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
He was a contract killer who murdered people for money including kids.
I don't recall this being mentioned anywhere in the games. And I don't think the part about Scorpion's family was mentioned until MKM:SZ where it was already said to have been Quan Chi.

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Tyranthraxus
09/20/23 9:57:34 AM
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Jupiter posted...
I don't recall this being mentioned anywhere in the games. And I don't think the part about Scorpion's family was mentioned until MKM:SZ where it was already said to have been Quan Chi.

I double checked and that's another retcon. Scorpion's family was actually alive in the OG.

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dave_is_slick
09/20/23 10:07:32 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I double checked and that's another retcon. Scorpion's family was actually alive in the OG.
Wait, what?

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RchHomieQuanChi
09/20/23 10:08:04 AM
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Haven't played much, but it already seems more interesting and fluid than MK11

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Tyranthraxus
09/20/23 10:15:41 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Wait, what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjJAAM8Dtz4

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Prestoff
09/20/23 11:12:54 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I hope we can make our own some day because that shit was amazing

That would probably be too big of an update for this game, but I can see that being the gimmick in the next MK game to being able to Rule 63 everyone, and maybe getting something like Konquest Mode in MK:Deception with our created avatar.

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GeneralKenobi85
09/20/23 4:28:56 PM
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Jupiter posted...
I REALLY hate how they did Bi-Han in this game. Dude is straight up evil. OG Bi-Han was not an asshole like this. I mean yea sure, he wasn't like a super hero, but this new Bi-Han is just an unlikable asshole.
I thought Sub-Zero was always an asshole. He was still one of Earth's heroes till he died, but certainly an asshole. Regardless, I disagree. I think asshole Bi-Han was one of the best characters in the game. I think it would be a huge mistake to turn him into Noob again, but obviously there's like a 90% chance that's gonna happen.

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Tyranthraxus
09/20/23 5:22:46 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
I thought Sub-Zero was always an asshole. He was still one of Earth's heroes till he died, but certainly an asshole. Regardless, I disagree. I think asshole Bi-Han was one of the best characters in the game. I think it would be a huge mistake to turn him into Noob again, but obviously there's like a 90% chance that's gonna happen.

They're seemingly foreshadowing in the next game the following:
  • Scorpion and Smoke will go found the rival clan Hanzo Scorpion was in.
  • Bi-han will kill scorpion and grievously injure smoke.
  • Based on some kick about how he's trying to "make the Lin Kuei as strong as possible" turn cyrax, sektor, and smoke (against his will) into robot ninjas
  • Spectre Scorpion returns

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GeneralKenobi85
09/20/23 5:40:55 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They're seemingly foreshadowing in the next game the following:
* Scorpion and Smoke will go found the rival clan Hanzo Scorpion was in.
* Bi-han will kill scorpion and grievously injure smoke.
* Based on some kick about how he's trying to "make the Lin Kuei as strong as possible" turn cyrax, sektor, and smoke (against his will) into robot ninjas
* Spectre Scorpion returns

Well there are leaks out there already for a possible expansion like MK11 had. Lots of datamined dialogue.

And it doesn't quite work out the way you described for Sub-Zero and Scorpion. In fact the whole thing sounds really terrible and hopefully it's either scrapped entirely or much more palatable than the datamined dialogue implies.

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Smashingpmkns
09/20/23 10:52:50 PM
#48:


Man this invasions mode is fucking rough. They should have added a map or some sort of quick travel between spots.

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Prestoff
09/20/23 10:57:28 PM
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Yeah Invasion mode was decent at first, but the novelty dies out really fast when you're trying to locate a tower and get lost. It doesn't help that your character moves so slow as well. I honestly preferred the Krypt in the previous MK games. For every few step forward they make with the gameplay in this game, I feel they took 1 step back from QoL stuff.

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Jupiter
09/21/23 11:26:52 AM
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Yea, the concept behind invasion is cool, but the execution sucks. And the fact that you can't move the camera much is stupid. I guess they don't want to make it easier to see things, but without a map, it just makes the stupidly slow traversal even more annoying. You should at the very least be able to change directions before you land on a node in case you accidentally go the wrong direction. I also think it's stupid you have to go through the entire mode to be able to access season content.

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