Current Events > Progress not carrying over from Remake to Rebirth is really stupid

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MarthGoomba 09/17/23 5:05:18 PM #1:	What's the point of getting anything in Remake if it's all just erased? All of those pointless filler sidequests to pad the game out, even more pointless --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:976133672] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>What's the point of getting anything in Remake if it's all just erased? All of those pointless filler sidequests to pad the game out, even more pointless </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 09/17/23 5:13:24 PM #2:	Have you pre-ordered it yet? --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:976133854] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Have you pre-ordered it yet? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/17/23 5:15:09 PM #3:	I'll never understand the "I can't enjoy doing anything in this game now if it won't carry over to a different game years from now" argument. EDIT: Though is there a source on this? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976133901] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>I'll never understand the "I can't enjoy doing anything in this game now if it won't carry over to a different game years from now" argument.EDIT: Though is there a source on this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hereforemnant 09/17/23 5:15:13 PM #4:	Do you have a source for this? That seems dumb considering Remake has stipulations saying it would carry it but it caps at level 50 Okay yeah checked into it, this is fucking stupid & SE is continuing to show why the only thing keeping the company afloat is FFXIV because they have no idea what to do with their IP & games. --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:976133902] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Do you have a source for this? That seems dumb considering Remake has stipulations saying it would carry it but it caps at level 50Okay yeah checked into it, this is fucking stupid & SE is continuing to show why the only thing keeping the company afloat is FFXIV because they have no idea what to do with their IP & games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waxitron_Gazer 09/17/23 5:15:27 PM #5:	wait for real? and people wonder why squeenix is dying lol --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs <cite>Waxitron_Gazer posted [p:976133909] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>wait for real? and people wonder why squeenix is dying lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:15:39 PM #6:	Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976133914] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 09/17/23 5:16:27 PM #7:	hockeybub89 posted... Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:976133935] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 09/17/23 5:16:47 PM #8:	The Trilogy(?) isn't nor was it ever trying to be the next Mass effect in that regard. It had grandiose plans but nothing that ambitious I think. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:976133944] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>The Trilogy(?) isn't nor was it ever trying to be the next Mass effect in that regard. It had grandiose plans but nothing that ambitious I think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Popo 09/17/23 5:18:14 PM #10:	hockeybub89 posted... Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all. For real. I dont even know why I ever played Mega Man 3 when my weapons from Mega Man 2 didnt carry over. --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:976133981] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all.</quote>For real. I dont even know why I ever played Mega Man 3 when my weapons from Mega Man 2 didnt carry over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/17/23 5:19:34 PM #11:	I was big Mario when I finished Mario 2, so can anybody explain to me why the hell I started as small Mario in Mario 3? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976134014] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>I was big Mario when I finished Mario 2, so can anybody explain to me why the hell I started as small Mario in Mario 3? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 09/17/23 5:26:17 PM #12:	That's stupid, this is the first I'm hearing about this. What's the point of grinding or getting any end game weapons or whatever in rebirth then? Or raising a gold Chocobo? We can assume that none of that will matter in part 3 right? I know the games are meant to be played stand alone too, but for real? No one even wanted the remake to be split into parts like this in the first point. This literally is one dumb move by square to another. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:976134169] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>That's stupid, this is the first I'm hearing about this. What's the point of grinding or getting any end game weapons or whatever in rebirth then? Or raising a gold Chocobo? We can assume that none of that will matter in part 3 right?I know the games are meant to be played stand alone too, but for real? No one even wanted the remake to be split into parts like this in the first point. This literally is one dumb move by square to another. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkninja42 09/17/23 5:26:43 PM #13:	How would it carry over for people that played it in PS4 anyway? Cloud saves aren't a default thing for PSN (which is stupid in itself) --- I'm far from high end, I just know what suits me. <cite>Darkninja42 posted [p:976134177] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>How would it carry over for people that played it in PS4 anyway? Cloud saves aren't a default thing for PSN (which is stupid in itself) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 09/17/23 5:29:33 PM #14:	Darkninja42 posted... How would it carry over for people that played it in PS4 anyway? Cloud saves aren't a default thing for PSN (which is stupid in itself) You can transfer your saves from ps4 to ps5. Even just having the option to transfer saves would be nice. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:976134256] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Darkninja42 posted... </cite><quote>How would it carry over for people that played it in PS4 anyway? Cloud saves aren't a default thing for PSN (which is stupid in itself)</quote>You can transfer your saves from ps4 to ps5. Even just having the option to transfer saves would be nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 09/17/23 5:30:40 PM #15:	Don't people get Leviathan as a free summon if they have a previous save file of FFVII Remake? --- Miss the old GameFAQs politics board? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:976134284] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Don't people get Leviathan as a free summon if they have a previous save file of FFVII Remake? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 09/17/23 5:31:33 PM #16:	I'm fine with this since a party you bring in is likely going to be to over or under powered. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:976134309] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>I'm fine with this since a party you bring in is likely going to be to over or under powered. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hereforemnant 09/17/23 5:31:36 PM #17:	Humble_Novice posted... Don't people get Leviathan as a free summon if they have a previous save file of FFVII Remake? You get that summon if you have PS4/5 save data, & Ramuh if you have the DLC save. Some other small things but that's basically it --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:976134311] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>Don't people get Leviathan as a free summon if they have a previous save file of FFVII Remake?</quote>You get that summon if you have PS4/5 save data, & Ramuh if you have the DLC save. Some other small things but that's basically it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 09/17/23 5:32:14 PM #18:	wait source on this --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:976134329] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>wait source on this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:32:52 PM #19:	itachi15243 posted... That's stupid, this is the first I'm hearing about this. What's the point of grinding or getting any end game weapons or whatever in rebirth then? Or raising a gold Chocobo? We can assume that none of that will matter in part 3 right? I know the games are meant to be played stand alone too, but for real? No one even wanted the remake to be split into parts like this in the first point. This literally is one dumb move by square to another. The remake would be 500 hours long and still be years from being released if it was one part. It would release physically on 6 discs. It's not really a remake anyway. Sequels in a series never carry over progress unless it's some CYOA-style game. There should have been no reason to expect any kind of carry-over. And now I'll be accused of defending bad industry practices for defending something no one even considered a problem before now. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976134339] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite><quote>That's stupid, this is the first I'm hearing about this. What's the point of grinding or getting any end game weapons or whatever in rebirth then? Or raising a gold Chocobo? We can assume that none of that will matter in part 3 right?I know the games are meant to be played stand alone too, but for real? No one even wanted the remake to be split into parts like this in the first point. This literally is one dumb move by square to another.</quote>The remake would be 500 hours long and still be years from being released if it was one part. It would release physically on 6 discs.It's not really a remake anyway. Sequels in a series never carry over progress unless it's some CYOA-style game. There should have been no reason to expect any kind of carry-over. And now I'll be accused of defending bad industry practices for defending something no one even considered a problem before now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 09/17/23 5:33:18 PM #20:	Humble_Novice posted... Don't people get Leviathan as a free summon if they have a previous save file of FFVII Remake? Leviathan for base remake and Ramah for intergrade. Still could be a lot better though. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:976134353] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>Don't people get Leviathan as a free summon if they have a previous save file of FFVII Remake?</quote>Leviathan for base remake and Ramah for intergrade. Still could be a lot better though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 09/17/23 5:35:26 PM #21:	https://kotaku.com/ff7-rebirth-remake-can-you-import-saves-how-dlc-ps5-1850842824 found a source --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:976134415] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>https://kotaku.com/ff7-rebirth-remake-can-you-import-saves-how-dlc-ps5-1850842824found a source </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 09/17/23 5:36:19 PM #22:	itachi15243 posted... Leviathan for base remake and Ramah for intergrade. Still could be a lot better though. Do you have to have both individual games or does one come with both summons? --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:976134438] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite><quote>Leviathan for base remake and Ramah for intergrade. Still could be a lot better though.</quote>Do you have to have both individual games or does one come with both summons? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 09/17/23 5:37:26 PM #23:	ViewtifulJoe posted... Do you have to have both individual games or does one come with both summons? intergrade is DLC for remake --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:976134479] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulJoe posted... </cite><quote>Do you have to have both individual games or does one come with both summons?</quote>intergrade is DLC for remake </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amakusa 09/17/23 5:37:39 PM #24:	hockeybub89 posted... It's not really a remake anyway. Sequels in a series never carry over progress unless it's some CYOA-style game. There should have been no reason to expect any kind of carry-over. And now I'll be accused of defending bad industry practices for defending something no one even considered a problem before now. Oh you're really opening yourself up for that one. Eye of the Beholder trilogy was the first thing that came to mind, even if it burned some of the items. More importantly you got stuff in the earlier games you couldn't in the last one. Jumping from Wizardry 7 to 8 you did in fact lose a lot of your items, but you did get to keep some of them (especially important if you still have the Diamond Ring from Wizardry 6) --- I will rule the world, and find that truly good cup of coffee. <cite>Amakusa posted [p:976134484] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>It's not really a remake anyway. Sequels in a series never carry over progress unless it's some CYOA-style game. There should have been no reason to expect any kind of carry-over. And now I'll be accused of defending bad industry practices for defending something no one even considered a problem before now.</quote>Oh you're really opening yourself up for that one.Eye of the Beholder trilogy was the first thing that came to mind, even if it burned some of the items. More importantly you got stuff in the earlier games you couldn't in the last one.Jumping from Wizardry 7 to 8 you did in fact lose a lot of your items, but you did get to keep some of them (especially important if you still have the Diamond Ring from Wizardry 6) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 09/17/23 5:37:46 PM #25:	ViewtifulJoe posted... Do you have to have both individual games or does one come with both summons? What do you mean? Intergrade is dlc, you have to have remake to play it unless something changed. So I assume you have to have both to get both? --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:976134490] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulJoe posted... </cite><quote>Do you have to have both individual games or does one come with both summons?</quote>What do you mean? Intergrade is dlc, you have to have remake to play it unless something changed. So I assume you have to have both to get both? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarthGoomba 09/17/23 5:38:06 PM #26:	hockeybub89 posted... Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all. A lot of games do it when it makes sense to Armored Core did it for all of its direct sequels Why wouldn't an RPG that picks up literally right where the previous ends do it? --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:976134499] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all.</quote>A lot of games do it when it makes sense toArmored Core did it for all of its direct sequelsWhy wouldn't an RPG that picks up literally right where the previous ends do it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cassie 09/17/23 5:40:04 PM #27:	wtf so theres no point in leveling to 50 in remake? Thats stupid. Ive got so many maxed materia and ridiculous stuff in remake. Id like to use it in rebirth. --- Blackpool Combat Club fangirl for life. <cite>Cassie posted [p:976134545] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>wtf so theres no point in leveling to 50 in remake? Thats stupid. Ive got so many maxed materia and ridiculous stuff in remake. Id like to use it in rebirth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 09/17/23 5:40:23 PM #28:	AceMos posted... intergrade is DLC for remake itachi15243 posted... What do you mean? Intergrade is dlc, you have to have remake to play it unless something changed. So I assume you have to have both to get both? Oh, Steam had it down as its own game. Some of the other stuff Square Enix has been up to lately made me assume the worst. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:976134549] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>intergrade is DLC for remake</quote>itachi15243 posted... </cite><quote>What do you mean? Intergrade is dlc, you have to have remake to play it unless something changed. So I assume you have to have both to get both?</quote>Oh, Steam had it down as its own game. Some of the other stuff Square Enix has been up to lately made me assume the worst. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 09/17/23 5:42:07 PM #29:	Intermission is the DLC, Intergrade is the PS5/PC version. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:976134590] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Intermission is the DLC, Intergrade is the PS5/PC version. </cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 09/17/23 5:42:57 PM #30:	Cassie posted... wtf so theres no point in leveling to 50 in remake? Thats stupid. How is this a real take? You play games for fun. There doesn't need to be any other point. --- Let's all please just get along. <cite>lilORANG posted [p:976134613] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Cassie posted... </cite><quote>wtf so theres no point in leveling to 50 in remake? Thats stupid.</quote>How is this a real take? You play games for fun. There doesn't need to be any other point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VirtuousWrath 09/17/23 5:43:18 PM #31:	hockey is trolling. Carry over was heavily implied --- "I sung of chaos and eternal night, taught by the heav'nly muse to venture down the dark descent, and up to reascend... <cite>VirtuousWrath posted [p:976134626] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>hockey is trolling. Carry over was heavily implied </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 09/17/23 5:51:16 PM #32:	Lol what a joke. The massive stretch of an argument here that it shouldn't be expected to be carried over because it's a "sequel" is even more hilarious. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:976134809] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Lol what a joke. The massive stretch of an argument here that it shouldn't be expected to be carried over because it's a "sequel" is even more hilarious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--Zero- 09/17/23 5:51:21 PM #33:	You ever play a sequel to any game ever? --- Sig <cite>--Zero- posted [p:976134812] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>You ever play a sequel to any game ever? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Senta 09/17/23 5:52:34 PM #34:	I never got the impression of anything substantial carrying over. Just didn't seem feasible for any semblance of balance. I 100% remake because I enjoyed it. I didn't care if nothing was going to carry over. I loved the game and loved going back through on Hard mode. I put more time into it than it takes me to complete the OG with 100% at this point, so I consider it money well spent. If I enjoy the next game half as much as part 1, I'll do it all over again. --- http://tinyurl.com/b95dwtg <cite>Senta posted [p:976134837] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>I never got the impression of anything substantial carrying over. Just didn't seem feasible for any semblance of balance. I 100% remake because I enjoyed it. I didn't care if nothing was going to carry over. I loved the game and loved going back through on Hard mode. I put more time into it than it takes me to complete the OG with 100% at this point, so I consider it money well spent. If I enjoy the next game half as much as part 1, I'll do it all over again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 09/17/23 5:53:18 PM #35:	--Zero- posted... You ever play a sequel to any game ever? People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game?? Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game? <cite>dioxxys posted [p:976134846] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>--Zero- posted... </cite><quote>You ever play a sequel to any game ever?</quote>People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game??Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 09/17/23 5:56:57 PM #37:	dioxxys posted... People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game?? Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game? It's literally a sequel lol. They didn't carry over your progress from FF13 either. Very few games have ever done this. It's a reimaging/remake to FF7 that is being released as 3 games that are a sequel to each other. If it was DLC I would understand, but it's an entirely new game. --- Sig <cite>--Zero- posted [p:976134925] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite><quote>People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game??Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game?</quote>It's literally a sequel lol. They didn't carry over your progress from FF13 either. Very few games have ever done this. It's a reimaging/remake to FF7 that is being released as 3 games that are a sequel to each other. If it was DLC I would understand, but it's an entirely new game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/17/23 5:57:03 PM #38:	I legit didn't expect carryover, because it didn't really make sense to me. How do they balance the game with the idea of carryover? Do they assume everybody will be level 50? Do they assume everybody will be starting over from scratch? Do they spend additional development time on implementing some kind of scaling system? It feels like no matter what they did, people would be complaining the game was too easy or too hard, regardless. Carry over works in games like the .dotHack series because they're all pretty much the same game over and over again with additional dungeons/characters, so not a ton really needs to change, but it seems difficult to do in something like this. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976134928] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>I legit didn't expect carryover, because it didn't really make sense to me. How do they balance the game with the idea of carryover? Do they assume everybody will be level 50? Do they assume everybody will be starting over from scratch? Do they spend additional development time on implementing some kind of scaling system? It feels like no matter what they did, people would be complaining the game was too easy or too hard, regardless.Carry over works in games like the .dotHack series because they're all pretty much the same game over and over again with additional dungeons/characters, so not a ton really needs to change, but it seems difficult to do in something like this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 09/17/23 5:58:31 PM #39:	dioxxys posted... People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game?? Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game? How do u figure this is the same game when it's a different game? It's no more the same game than Metroid 2 is the same as Metroid or God of War 2 is the same as God of War. It's a continuation of the story but it's a new game. Hell, the games I mentioned often have something happen to the protagonist early on to explain why they don't have endgame abilities from the start --- Let's all please just get along. <cite>lilORANG posted [p:976134961] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite><quote>People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game??Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game?</quote>How do u figure this is the same game when it's a different game? It's no more the same game than Metroid 2 is the same as Metroid or God of War 2 is the same as God of War. It's a continuation of the story but it's a new game. Hell, the games I mentioned often have something happen to the protagonist early on to explain why they don't have endgame abilities from the start </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zonbei 09/17/23 5:59:02 PM #40:	MarthGoomba posted... What's the point of getting anything in Remake if it's all just erased? All of those pointless filler sidequests to pad the game out, even more pointless It would in fact be stupid to carry it over, for numerous reasons. (Including the difficulty of balancing/figuring out how to handle the disparity between people who didnt carry over their data, people who beat the game and dropped it, and people who fully leveled up and minmaxed their characters to yell to fight optional bosses.) The fact you think its stupid not to is probably due to the fact youre not a game designer. --- It's a luscious mix of words and tricks, that let us bet, when we know we should have folded. <cite>Zonbei posted [p:976134981] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>MarthGoomba posted... </cite><quote>What's the point of getting anything in Remake if it's all just erased? All of those pointless filler sidequests to pad the game out, even more pointless</quote>It would in fact be stupid to carry it over, for numerous reasons. (Including the difficulty of balancing/figuring out how to handle the disparity between people who didnt carry over their data, people who beat the game and dropped it, and people who fully leveled up and minmaxed their characters to yell to fight optional bosses.) The fact you think its stupid not to is probably due to the fact youre not a game designer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/17/23 6:00:41 PM #41:	I can understand people who 100% the last game getting annoyed, but as somebody who played the last game and missed one of tifa's weapons and I didn't get Bahama because I didn't play the game again on hard mode, I'd be more pissed if those things were just permanently locked out of the rest of the franchise for me because I didn't do it the first time through. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:976135017] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>I can understand people who 100% the last game getting annoyed, but as somebody who played the last game and missed one of tifa's weapons and I didn't get Bahama because I didn't play the game again on hard mode, I'd be more pissed if those things were just permanently locked out of the rest of the franchise for me because I didn't do it the first time through. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 09/17/23 6:01:07 PM #42:	dioxxys posted... People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game?? Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game? Is this post from 2018? --- Useless "Captain" Mid <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:976135023] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite><quote>People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game??Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game?</quote>Is this post from 2018? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/17/23 6:01:08 PM #43:	The more I think about it, the more I'm not sure a scaling system would even work, since while it might work for enemies, you'd have to also scale weapons/etc., which now means there's no set stats for anything and people are going to end up confused when they compare with other players. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976135025] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>The more I think about it, the more I'm not sure a scaling system would even work, since while it might work for enemies, you'd have to also scale weapons/etc., which now means there's no set stats for anything and people are going to end up confused when they compare with other players. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 6:01:22 PM #44:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Lol what a joke. The massive stretch of an argument here that it shouldn't be expected to be carried over because it's a "sequel" is even more hilarious. When have you ever expected sequels to carry over progress? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976135028] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite><quote>Lol what a joke. The massive stretch of an argument here that it shouldn't be expected to be carried over because it's a "sequel" is even more hilarious.</quote>When have you ever expected sequels to carry over progress? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zonbei 09/17/23 6:02:09 PM #45:	hereforemnant posted... Do you have a source for this? That seems dumb considering Remake has stipulations saying it would carry it but it caps at level 50 Okay yeah checked into it, this is fucking stupid & SE is continuing to show why the only thing keeping the company afloat is FFXIV because they have no idea what to do with their IP & games. God this is the best example of dunning-Kruger Ive seen all month. --- It's a luscious mix of words and tricks, that let us bet, when we know we should have folded. <cite>Zonbei posted [p:976135041] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>hereforemnant posted... </cite><quote>Do you have a source for this? That seems dumb considering Remake has stipulations saying it would carry it but it caps at level 50Okay yeah checked into it, this is fucking stupid & SE is continuing to show why the only thing keeping the company afloat is FFXIV because they have no idea what to do with their IP & games.</quote>God this is the best example of dunning-Kruger Ive seen all month. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 09/17/23 6:12:00 PM #46:	dioxxys posted... People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game?? Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game? They're copying the .hack// games style but doing it worse since the .hack// games were able to properly carry over your stuff from the last game and not have you be OP. --- Currently Playing: Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Replaying: The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky FC <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:976135227] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>dioxxys posted... </cite><quote>People keep trying to use the sequel argument but this isn't a sequel it's supposed to be the same game??Why are we making an entire trilogy just for Final fantasy 7? Shouldn't it be just one game?</quote>They're copying the .hack// games style but doing it worse since the .hack// games were able to properly carry over your stuff from the last game and not have you be OP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarthGoomba 09/17/23 6:13:18 PM #47:	Zonbei posted... It would in fact be stupid to carry it over, for numerous reasons. (Including the difficulty of balancing/figuring out how to handle the disparity between people who didnt carry over their data, people who beat the game and dropped it, and people who fully leveled up and minmaxed their characters to yell to fight optional bosses.) The fact you think its stupid not to is probably due to the fact youre not a game designer. I am a game designer and I know for a fact that it is very easy to balance a "trilogy" around carrying your progress over... because you simply design the content as you would if it were one continuous game. There is no difference in the approach to design and balance with there being a split between releases. The final encounters in Remake would be balanced around an expected level. Rebirth would begin its content at that level, and its level cap would be increased over the previous. If you don't import, you simply get a free boost in level and minimal equipment to get started. Those that fully levelled and geared get to enjoy their earned power instead of having it erased, while the level caps prevent them from levelling beyond what part 2 and eventually 3 would be designed for. You, clearly, are not a game designer. --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg <cite>MarthGoomba posted [p:976135263] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Zonbei posted... </cite><quote>It would in fact be stupid to carry it over, for numerous reasons. (Including the difficulty of balancing/figuring out how to handle the disparity between people who didnt carry over their data, people who beat the game and dropped it, and people who fully leveled up and minmaxed their characters to yell to fight optional bosses.) The fact you think its stupid not to is probably due to the fact youre not a game designer.</quote>I am a game designer and I know for a fact that it is very easy to balance a "trilogy" around carrying your progress over... because you simply design the content as you would if it were one continuous game. There is no difference in the approach to design and balance with there being a split between releases.The final encounters in Remake would be balanced around an expected level. Rebirth would begin its content at that level, and its level cap would be increased over the previous. If you don't import, you simply get a free boost in level and minimal equipment to get started. Those that fully levelled and geared get to enjoy their earned power instead of having it erased, while the level caps prevent them from levelling beyond what part 2 and eventually 3 would be designed for.You, clearly, are not a game designer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 09/17/23 6:13:42 PM #48:	hockeybub89 posted... Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:976135269] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Video games are so well-known for carrying over progress to sequels after all.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 09/17/23 6:15:38 PM #49:	Considering Remake has been compared to Mass Effect 1 in terms of feeling like a full experience with more of the story to tell, it doesn't feel like it needs to carry over. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:976135303] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>Considering Remake has been compared to Mass Effect 1 in terms of feeling like a full experience with more of the story to tell, it doesn't feel like it needs to carry over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 6:20:23 PM #50:	MarthGoomba posted... I am a game designer and I know for a fact that it is very easy to balance a "trilogy" around carrying your progress over... because you simply design the content as you would if it were one continuous game. There is no difference in the approach to design and balance with there being a split between releases. The final encounters in Remake would be balanced around an expected level. Rebirth would begin its content at that level, and its level cap would be increased over the previous. If you don't import, you simply get a free boost in level and minimal equipment to get started. Those that fully levelled and geared get to enjoy their earned power instead of having it erased, while the level caps prevent them from levelling beyond what part 2 and eventually 3 would be designed for. You, clearly, are not a game designer. Someone better go tell most game designers that they are lazy, incompetent bastards for not choosing to implement carryover progress into 98% of sequels. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976135400] in Progress n... [t:80569101]...</cite> <quote>MarthGoomba posted... </cite><quote>I am a game designer and I know for a fact that it is very easy to balance a "trilogy" around carrying your progress over... because you simply design the content as you would if it were one continuous game. There is no difference in the approach to design and balance with there being a split between releases.The final encounters in Remake would be balanced around an expected level. Rebirth would begin its content at that level, and its level cap would be increased over the previous. If you don't import, you simply get a free boost in level and minimal equipment to get started. Those that fully levelled and geared get to enjoy their earned power instead of having it erased, while the level caps prevent them from levelling beyond what part 2 and eventually 3 would be designed for.You, clearly, are not a game designer.</quote>Someone better go tell most game designers that they are lazy, incompetent bastards for not choosing to implement carryover progress into 98% of sequels. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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