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Damn_Underscore 09/17/23 11:10:15 AM #1: |
At this point Im pretty sure Biden is running but what do you think?
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Heineken14 09/17/23 11:12:11 AM #2: |
Yeah, why not just get rid of one of his biggest advantages going and give republicans a massive, massive talking point. Fucking GREAT idea!
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mercurydude 09/17/23 11:14:19 AM #3: |
Why give republicans what they want? Sure, I want a younger president, but these folks fear Biden for a reason. Changing a certainty to an uncertainty only benefits them.
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FortuneCookie 09/17/23 11:14:52 AM #4: |
*Democrats nominate Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, a practical shoe-in, as Biden's replacement* "You killed the DC Cinematic Universe!" "Yeah, Black Adam is a Shazam villain - not a Superman rival!" "Your ego is out of control!" *Republicans win and turn the US into a dictatorship* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 09/17/23 11:30:18 AM #5: |
Yes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rideshort 09/17/23 12:03:38 PM #6: |
Not a good idea. Biden has advantage in the position he's at besides his age. Also there's no good candidate to take the Democratic Primary. If Gavin Newsome or Cory Booker or Jamie Raskin decided to run, they would be great choices. Right now they're good where they are being much more influential and don't even want to run against Biden.
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Dakimakura 09/17/23 12:04:53 PM #7: |
AOC for presi
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EthanSilver 09/17/23 12:06:14 PM #8: |
On paper, it doesn't sound bad. But is there even anybody with a better chance at winning right now. It could end up being a really stupid thing to do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 09/17/23 12:06:59 PM #9: |
On paper? Yes
He's old and clearly not mentally sound But in reality the alternative is Kamala Harris and I think BIden is better than her. Despite his age. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 09/17/23 12:07:58 PM #10: |
I genuinely consider Biden to be the anti-Trump and I think he has the best shot of winning right now given the circumstances and stuff like incumbent advantage
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ai123 09/17/23 12:08:55 PM #11: |
Do the thing your opponent would least like you to do.
On that basis, no. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gritty 09/17/23 12:09:42 PM #12: |
Lol no duh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 09/17/23 12:12:51 PM #13: |
mercurydude posted...
Why give republicans what they want? Sure, I want a younger presidentWhy give you what you want? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnsteadyOwl 09/17/23 12:13:52 PM #14: |
rideshort posted...
Not a good idea. Biden has advantage in the position he's at besides his age. Also there's no good candidate to take the Democratic Primary. If Gavin Newsome or Cory Booker or Jamie Raskin decided to run, they would be great choices. Right now they're good where they are being much more influential and don't even want to run against Biden.Exactly. No other Democrat really stands out right now as someone who would have a good shot in 2024. By 2028 there will have been more time for some of the rising stars to make a name for themselves. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 09/17/23 12:15:21 PM #15: |
Going to post this article here for no reason
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Agonized_rufous 09/17/23 12:18:00 PM #16: |
All politicians should step aside for Jesus
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Heineken14 09/17/23 4:08:12 PM #17: |
Intro2Logic posted...
Going to post this article here for no reason That's nice dear, we're talking about Biden though, and how it's utterly fucking moronic to have him step down. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 09/17/23 4:10:20 PM #18: |
Since 2000:
Dems in POTUS elections w/o Biden on the ticket: 0-3 Dems in POTUS elections with Biden on the ticket: 3-0 Keep that rabbits foot, Dems. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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penguin223 09/17/23 4:11:51 PM #19: |
Biden should have stepped aside in 2020. Bernie could be our president right now if he endorsed him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PballDepot 09/17/23 4:23:54 PM #20: |
Heineken14 posted...
Yeah, why not just get rid of one of his biggest advantages going and give republicans a massive, massive talking point. Fucking GREAT idea! --- https://youtu.be/Nysb-m49Ol0?si=qo6rSvX3qdRngnMV ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waxitron_Gazer 09/17/23 5:03:03 PM #21: |
penguin223 posted...
Biden should have stepped aside in 2020. Bernie could be our president right now if he endorsed himi too enjoy the comfort of good dreams. --- five, five, five, jack -five nobs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 09/17/23 5:04:59 PM #22: |
Anyone that thinks Biden should step aside really wants Trump to win cause no other candidate has built themselves up enough to be more popular than Biden or Trump.
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ExistentialFear 09/17/23 5:10:49 PM #23: |
Dakimakura posted... AOC for presiNew York doesn't even like AOC right now, no way in hell would she even come close to winning a presidential election. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 09/17/23 8:03:19 PM #24: |
--Zero- posted...
no other candidate has built themselves up enough to be more popular than Biden or Trump.How popular is Biden, though? Polls have consistently had his approval rating underwater since the withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021. Currently, his net approval is...basically the same as Trump's at this stage in his presidency: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/ Every winning incumbent has enjoyed higher approval ratings than Biden's at this point, and so did HW for good measure. Meanwhile, significant portions of the country feel that Biden is too old to effectively serve: https://apnews.com/article/biden-age-poll-trump-2024-620e0a5cfa0039a6448f607c17c7f23e In the poll, fully 77% said Biden is too old to be effective for four more years. Not only do 89% of Republicans say that, so do 69% of Democrats. That view is held across age groups, not just by young people, though older Democrats specifically are more supportive of his 2024 bid. In contrast, about half of U.S. adults say Trump is too old for the office, and here the familiar partisan divide emerges Democrats are far more likely to disqualify Trump by age than are Republicans. How do you think these views might change if, say, Biden has a Mitch McConnell moment next fall? Or a heart attack or a stroke? Is that a risk you're comfortable taking? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bfslick50 09/17/23 8:08:44 PM #26: |
Grass is always greener. Sure you all like the idea new primary winner, but the actual winner is going to have their own issues.
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Irony 09/17/23 8:14:30 PM #27: |
This would backfire and give the GOP ammo
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TerraSeeker 09/17/23 8:15:38 PM #28: |
No, he's the most popular president in history for a reason.
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Jagr_68 09/17/23 8:17:56 PM #29: |
Yes but life is unfair as well tremendously inconvenient and if he's the guy that can stand tall against fascism, then may as well roll with that.
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Heineken14 09/17/23 8:20:26 PM #30: |
Intro2Logic posted...
How popular is Biden, though? Polls have consistently had his approval rating underwater since the withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021. Currently, his net approval is...basically the same as Trump's at this stage in his presidency: What's funny is this topic is a perfect encapsulation of WHY Biden's poll numbers are generally where they are. Republicans hate him because they don't want to help America and then the left hate him because they have this idealized fantasy world where he's going to step aside for 0 reason and Progressive Paul is going to magically show up, become president, and fix every problem we have despite still having to deal with the GOP because.. you know... that all makes sense. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inohira 09/17/23 8:24:11 PM #31: |
Probably not.
- Biden has the incumbent advantage. - Biden already beat Trump before, so it's at least known in historical record that it's possible for him to. - There is no guarantee the Democratic party would nominate any of the candidates who are better than him. With states like South Carolina voting early in the primaries now it's likely they just choose another Biden-aligned nominee (such as Harris), rather than anyone people not already voting Dem. might be excited about. - The Democratic president backing out may make the party look disorganized. Granted, if age related issues take him off the campaign trail in 2024 that's a massive L for the Dems. TerraSeeker posted... No, he's the most popular president in history for a reason. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/one-year-in-bidens-approval-rating-is-in-troubleonly-trumps-was-lower/ His approval rating has at times been the 2nd lowest ever since they started being tracked. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 09/17/23 8:27:15 PM #32: |
He should.
He won't. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PraetorXyn 09/17/23 8:29:48 PM #33: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
On paper? YesThis. Harris would get curbstomped in a general. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 09/17/23 8:30:51 PM #34: |
Heineken14 posted...
What's funny is this topic is a perfect encapsulation of WHY Biden's poll numbers are generally where they are. Republicans hate him because they don't want to help America and then the left hate him because they have this idealized fantasy world where he's going to step aside for 0 reason and Progressive Paul is going to magically show up, become president, and fix every problem we have despite still having to deal with the GOP because.. you know... that all makes sense.So do you expect that to change in the next 14 months, or are you just confident he'll win anyways? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 09/17/23 8:31:04 PM #35: |
Do other Democrats even have a chance?
Frankly, Biden shouldn't have won the first time. I still voted for him because he's not Trump, but he wasn't my first choice. --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 09/17/23 8:32:59 PM #36: |
HylianFox posted...
Do other Democrats even have a chance?Donald Trump is wildly unpopular among GE voters. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 09/17/23 8:34:24 PM #37: |
Intro2Logic posted...
I'm confident that him being the incumbent is a much bigger advantage than the silly notion that he should drop out a year before the election for borderline silly right wing nonsense of "hurrr he too old!" Dude is older than dirt and says silly old man bullshit, but there has been nothing that makes him come anywhere close to being as dog shit as Donnie or any generic republican. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 09/17/23 8:39:42 PM #38: |
Intro2Logic posted...
Donald Trump is wildly unpopular among GE voters. Yeah, Trump's unpopular among sane people, but most Democrat candidates are pretty lame-duck I can't see many of them getting people fired up And I say this as a life-long Dem voter Then you've got the "Bernie Or Bust" types who didn't vote at all since their guy wasn't on the ballot --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 09/17/23 8:40:41 PM #39: |
PraetorXyn posted...
Anyone would have a needless uphill battle to run once the right wing propagandasphere got its hooks into the narrative Democrats are failures not to be trusted because they ran Biden knowing he sucked. And then they're all over CNN saying the same. Now MSNBC is having think pieces about it or not and whoever wins the primary doesn't get their message out because the 5 minutes they DO get are asked about Biden. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PraetorXyn 09/17/23 8:44:56 PM #40: |
Heineken14 posted...
Anyone would have a needless uphill battle to run once the right wing propagandasphere got its hooks into the narrative Democrats are failures not to be trusted because they ran Biden knowing he sucked. And then they're all over CNN saying the same. Now MSNBC is having think pieces about it or not and whoever wins the primary doesn't get their message out because the 5 minutes they DO get are asked about Biden.Yes. But shes arguably the worst possible person they could put up if none of those circumstances existed. And shed easily win a primary because primary voters are lemmings. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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variasuite 09/17/23 8:45:43 PM #41: |
Biden has shown nothing that makes me question his ability to be President. He's fine.
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Heineken14 09/17/23 8:48:24 PM #42: |
PraetorXyn posted...
It's not just her. Anyone who wins after Biden is forcibly removed is going to endure an absolute shit show for negligible gains or horrendous losses. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inohira 09/17/23 8:53:16 PM #43: |
HylianFox posted...
Do other Democrats even have a chance? Well in 2020 basically anyone (except Hillary lol) could've beat Trump. Biden was initially unpopular in Dem. primary voting and only took the lead after party leaders and rival candidates rallied behind him; if a candidate placing 4th and 5th in some states could dump Trump it was basically a freebie. Who knows now though. Trump, paradoxically, has been doing better in general election polls than he ever has. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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variasuite 09/17/23 8:56:05 PM #44: |
Inohira posted...
Well in 2020 basically anyone (except Hillary lol) could've beat Trump. Biden was initially unpopular in Dem. primary voting and only took the lead after party leaders and rival candidates rallied behind him; if a candidate placing 4th and 5th in some states could dump Trump it was basically a freebie.Gonna need a source on that, homie. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycE7bUq3-2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kbLwvqugk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nexigrams 09/17/23 8:56:14 PM #45: |
Nobody wants Biden to run except for the DNC. Sound familiar? They do whatever they want, abide by whatever backroom deals were cut, regardless of the will of the people. It'd be nice if it bit them in the ass one of these times, but for now they keep getting away with it.
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Euripides 09/17/23 8:56:59 PM #46: |
penguin223 posted...
Biden should have stepped aside in 2020. Bernie could be our president right now if he endorsed him ha ha ha ha Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder HA HA HA HA HA --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 09/17/23 8:57:16 PM #47: |
nexigrams posted...
Nobody wants Biden to run except for the DNC. Sound familiar? They do whatever they want, abide by whatever backroom deals were cut, regardless of the will of the people. It'd be nice if it bit them in the ass one of these times, but for now they keep getting away with it. Literally more people voted for Biden. /shrug --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 09/17/23 8:58:32 PM #48: |
Oh fuck no. Who are all these people voting yes?
Seriously? Only way I'd be alright with him stepping aside is if Trump was locked up and disqualified before the primaries. Then it might be worth risking. For now, we can wait to run some other people in 28 ffs. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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variasuite 09/17/23 8:59:57 PM #49: |
itachi15243 posted...
Oh fuck no. Who are all these people voting yes?People who want Trump to be President again. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycE7bUq3-2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kbLwvqugk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nexigrams 09/17/23 9:02:19 PM #50: |
Heineken14 posted...
Literally more people voted for Biden. /shrugWhich is the same as everyone wanting him to be president again, of course. Or even the first time. --- http://imgur.com/SYiqIRC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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