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Intro2Logic
09/15/23 12:38:50 PM
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https://theintercept.com/2023/09/15/uaw-strike-twitter-verification-elon-musk/

Remember, it's hard to say what his politics are, according to the NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/business/media/elon-musk-politics-twitter.html

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mercurydude
09/15/23 12:40:20 PM
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Free speech absolutist strikes again.

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Shadow_Don
09/15/23 12:40:36 PM
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Free speech absolutism except if you disagree with elon

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chaos_knight
09/15/23 12:41:23 PM
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Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.

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Pogo_Marimo
09/15/23 12:41:29 PM
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Fascist believes in virtuous concepts, but only when they personally benefit. More news at 11!

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LSGW_Zephyra
09/15/23 12:42:08 PM
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I wonder what Elon would do if Twitter unionized.

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DnDer
09/15/23 12:43:07 PM
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Wonder if UAW could slap him with something like he got slapped after his previous anti-labor and anti-union behavior at Tesla.

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Jagr_68
09/15/23 12:44:13 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.

Because the ones who oppose and hate on twitter are mostly virtue signalling, with a select minority actually closing their accounts.

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Kai_Laguna
09/15/23 12:48:11 PM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
I wonder what Elon would do if Twitter unionized.
I'm pretty sure anyone who would be willing to do that has already quite or been fired at this points. Nothing but bootlickers left.
And obviously he'd just fire them while having a melty on his timeline.
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Intro2Logic
09/15/23 12:49:02 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.
A lot of people don't. I don't anymore.

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Vyrulisse
09/15/23 12:50:28 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.
People are creatures of habit and Twitter became daily life for most of its users. Unless something clearly better comes along it'll be impossible uproot most users.
So far every attempt at a replacement is lacking in some way.

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ChainsawFerret
09/15/23 12:58:28 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Because the ones who oppose and hate on twitter are mostly virtue signalling, with a select minority actually closing their accounts.

Or they're like me and want to see the whole thing crash and burn with a nice front-row seat.

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ScazarMeltex
09/15/23 12:59:08 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
A lot of people don't. I don't anymore.
Same.

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BewmHedshot
09/15/23 12:59:58 PM
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Does TSLA even use UAW workers? What's his beef?
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DipDipDiver
09/15/23 1:00:55 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
A lot of people don't. I don't anymore.

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This and this. I don't miss twitter at all

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Jagr_68
09/15/23 1:02:09 PM
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ChainsawFerret posted...
Or they're like me and want to see the whole thing crash and burn with a nice front-row seat.

I mean well that's your prerogative but I wouldn't care either way personally.

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YellowSUV
09/15/23 1:03:18 PM
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BewmHedshot posted...
Does TSLA even use UAW workers? What's his beef?

Elon hates unions. Even if Tesla doesn't have UAW workers, UAW winning the strike would raise conditions for all workers.

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thronedfire2
09/15/23 1:03:48 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.

what alternative with the same reach is there?

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Gritty
09/15/23 1:08:38 PM
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Fascist Musk
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foreverzero212
09/15/23 1:11:21 PM
#21:


CEOs hate unions? What no way dude.

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NoxObscuras
09/15/23 1:11:31 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.
Nah. The amount of Twitter users were steadily increasing every year since it launched. But after Elon bought it, the amount of users has been going down. It's lost over 15 million users since last year. So it's not going to die instantly, but it's definitely going down if he keeps this up.

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CableZL
09/15/23 1:11:59 PM
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My verified notifications on Twitter used to be from companies, celebrities, journalists, and local/state/federal government entities.

Now my verified notifications are just Trump supporters saying stupid shit about various topics.

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ChainsawFerret
09/15/23 1:14:47 PM
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CableZL posted...
My verified notifications on Twitter used to be from companies, celebrities, and local/state/federal government entities.

Now my verified notifications are just Trump supporters saying stupid shit about various topics.

Lucky. I keep getting people who try to sell me crypto.

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Solar_Crimson
09/15/23 1:34:08 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.
Because there's no viable alternatives.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
09/15/23 1:35:38 PM
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Fuck Elon! He's probably scared, cause it hits too close to home. Well good. But this isnt being a champion of free speech, hypocrite pos.

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hockeybub89
09/15/23 1:40:20 PM
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So much free speech!!!

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_Raich_
09/15/23 1:42:11 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.
ehh, not really true. Power users have bled away like crazy, and it's losing relevance bit by bit, especially under the verification changes. It's been a slow death, but it's definitely on the down swing, and it swings further down with almost every boneheaded change done under Elon.

As soon as an alternative consolidates enough, it'll be over. It's more of a question of when than if.

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Tom_Joad
09/15/23 1:52:35 PM
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chaos_knight posted...
Thing is, it's been a year now since he bought Twitter and everyone still uses it like nothing has changed.

This.

By this point, actions are speaking a lot louder than words. Meaning those still using Twitter SUPPORT Musk's bigotry, racism, and anti-Semitism.

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Tom_Joad
09/15/23 1:55:19 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Because there's no viable alternatives.

For what?

Short, annoying, and useless snippets... there to distract and enrage you?

You *WANT* that?!?

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hockeybub89
09/15/23 1:56:32 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
This.

By this point, actions are speaking a lot louder than words. Meaning those still using Twitter SUPPORT Musk's bigotry, racism, and anti-Semitism.
There is still no viable alternative to Twitter. You can't expect everyone to drop something that became so ubiquitous that it coined dictionary terms.

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hockeybub89
09/15/23 1:58:57 PM
#32:


Tom_Joad posted...
For what?

Short, annoying, and useless snippets... there to distract and enrage you?

You *WANT* that?!?
Yeah, you're right man. There was never breaking news or announcements on Twitter. Just hot takes from nobodies, never anything of substance

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Solar_Crimson
09/15/23 2:04:50 PM
#33:


Tom_Joad posted...
For what?

Short, annoying, and useless snippets... there to distract and enrage you?

You *WANT* that?!?
Another person who just ignores that Twitter was an incredibly useful tool for getting breaking news out fast, and for organizing grassroots movements.

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NoxObscuras
09/15/23 2:05:26 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
For what?

Short, annoying, and useless snippets... there to distract and enrage you?

You *WANT* that?!?
It's not all ragebait though. I joined Twitter to share gameplay clips and it's been great for that. And then in 2020, Twitter was instrumental in me buying a PS5. Certain Twitter users would send alerts whenever they got info that stores would have them in stock. I wasn't getting that kind of real time tracking, for free, from anywhere else.

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foreverzero212
09/15/23 2:07:48 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Another person who just ignores that Twitter was an incredibly useful tool for getting breaking news out fast, and for organizing grassroots movements.
Nope. It's just another new account trolling.

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Tom_Joad
09/15/23 2:10:30 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Yeah, you're right man. There was never breaking news or announcements on Twitter. Just hot takes from nobodies, never anything of substance

As if breaking news doesn't appear as breaking news at news sites? Just bookmark them and enable notifications from them.

Or if that's too pedestrian for you... use Feedly.

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untrustful
09/15/23 2:11:33 PM
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He would probably say something like "verification is an active status, going on strike is the opposite of activity."

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/15/23 2:14:18 PM
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I did Nazi that coming.

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hockeybub89
09/15/23 2:21:41 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
As if breaking news doesn't appear as breaking news at news sites? Just bookmark them and enable notifications from them.

Or if that's too pedestrian for you... use Feedly.
That's much slower than Twitter. And there are a lot of paywalls these days. Musk is fucking up what was a gigantic resource for far more than stupid ragebait.

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Tom_Joad
09/15/23 5:13:50 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
That's much slower than Twitter. And there are a lot of paywalls these days. Musk is fucking up what was a gigantic resource for far more than stupid ragebait.

It's just as fast as Twitter. Because you can't release a Twitter post with a link to your story until there is a link to your story. And if there's a link to your story, that means it's *ALREADY* on the news site itself.

Which, if you allow the news site to send notifications, means you get notified of the story the moment it's on the news site. By definition, that's before it even makes it to Twitter.

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Tom_Joad
09/15/23 5:16:45 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Like?

News? Already addressed.

Organizing? It's no more useful than a Usenet board from back in the day. And with those, at least you were anonymous. So no one knew who you were.

Meaning that authoritarian regimes couldn't as easily track you, unlike Twitter... who'll sell your life story to anyone with a buck.

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In fact, here's a link to go buy Twitter userdata.

https://dash.tweetbinder.com/advanced-search/twitter-enterprise

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andel
09/15/23 5:19:15 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Nah. The amount of Twitter users were steadily increasing every year since it launched. But after Elon bought it, the amount of users has been going down. It's lost over 15 million users since last year. So it's not going to die instantly, but it's definitely going down if he keeps this up.

not only that, it has lost a huge percentage of ad revenue which has always been the way it made money. twitter is losing users and most importantly it is losing money much faster than ever before. it sucks that there are people that put their twitter addiction over their values but it is still slowly failing regardless

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codey
09/15/23 5:21:05 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
It's just as fast as Twitter. Because you can't release a Twitter post with a link to your story until there is a link to your story. And if there's a link to your story, that means it's *ALREADY* on the news site itself.

Which, if you allow the news site to send notifications, means you get notified of the story the moment it's on the news site. By definition, that's before it even makes it to Twitter.

Are you ignorant? Twitter breaking news typically doesn't include links because it's being broken and reported on ON Twitter.

I am a journalist. It takes much longer for me to draft a story, even if it's two lines, make sure I check all the boxes in our publication software, and push that to my editors for review prior to publishing on our website and preparing an email blast, than it does for me to type "BREAKING: X is happening as I type this" into Twitter.

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hockeybub89
09/15/23 5:23:33 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
It's just as fast as Twitter. Because you can't release a Twitter post with a link to your story until there is a link to your story. And if there's a link to your story, that means it's *ALREADY* on the news site itself.

Which, if you allow the news site to send notifications, means you get notified of the story the moment it's on the news site. By definition, that's before it even makes it to Twitter.
Who's talking about links to news stories? I'm talking about the news coming straight from Twitter. Twitter is the original source of a lot of stories you see these days.

You're gonna say something like "rumors and ragebait aren't news!" because you refuse to acknowledge that social media, especially Twitter, has been far more useful than that. I have been using Twitter for years without ever making a post. Before Musk took over, I never saw a single ragebait post show up on my feed.

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Torgo
09/15/23 5:24:45 PM
#47:


Freedom of speech if your speech agrees with my politics.

-- Free speech warrior Elon Musk

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Tom_Joad
09/15/23 5:24:51 PM
#48:


codey posted...
Are you ignorant? Twitter breaking news typically doesn't include links because it's being broken and reported on ON Twitter.

I am a journalist. It takes much longer for me to draft a story, even if it's two lines, make sure I check all the boxes in our publication software, and push that to my editors for review prior to publishing on our website and preparing an email blast, than it does for me to type "BREAKING: X is happening as I type this" into Twitter.

And you are willing to sell your soul to do it on Twitter instead of something like this, which is just as fast and easy? Everything on it is also tweeted, but you can just as easily remove the tweets and do it through a private system for release on the news site itself.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/0/AAfQqfAAE2CM.jpg

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andel
09/15/23 5:25:02 PM
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it's weird how people that defend using twitter don't apply that same faulty reasoning to other areas. if you want to enable and enrich a far right neo nazi adjacent dude just admit that instead of making up reasons why that is totally acceptable in this one instance.

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codey
09/15/23 5:28:57 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
And you are willing to sell your soul to do it on Twitter instead of something like this, which is just as fast and easy? Everything on it is also tweeted, but you can just as easily remove the tweets and do it through a private system for release on the news site itself.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/0/AAfQqfAAE2CM.jpg

Thank you for answering my opening question. You are ignorant.

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