Current Events > Square Enix Loses Nearly $2 Billion in Value Since Final Fantasy 16

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Every Final Fantasy game is only Final Fantasy because of the paint job. Really that's the only thing that separates the series.

And this is coming from a HUGE fan of the games.

Maybe now they'll realize it's not worth taking a few bucks from Sony for BS anti-consumer exclusivity and put their games on all platforms at the same time

Also I'm almost completely sure this has very little to do with 16

Mainly cause it's PS5 only. No one wants to buy a console for literally a single game

I am sad that this is happening. 70 hour beat'em up is a long time. I don't blame them for the exclusive though since I believe Sony put in most of the funding. I hope that FF rebirth brings in some dollars because this is heart breaking

I think the situation has less to do with about FF16 exactly by itself as a product and rather the fact FF16 didn't have legs that made up for Avengers and the abysmal flop of Forspoken.

I think the situation has less to do with about FF16 exactly by itself as a product and rather the fact FF16 didn't have legs that made up for Avengers and the abysmal flop of Forspoken.

I wouldn't worry, they will get it all back with FF7-2 comes out next year

I think the situation has less to do with about FF16 exactly by itself as a product and rather the fact FF16 didn't have legs that made up for Avengers and the abysmal flop of Forspoken.

I wouldn't worry, they will get it all back with FF7-2 comes out next year

Its not that its not turn based, its just not what people think of when they think Final Fantasy. You dont even have party members for most of the game, the RPG elements are more toned down than ever, usually / writing wise it more resembles A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones than a FF story.

There is a segment of aging gamers who grew up in the 90s and prefer turn based combat, but were a minority.

Honestly, this is what killed my interest in seeking the game out. I'm pretty much over the ASoIaF / GoT style of political fantasy at this point, and even when I was hot for it it was the opposite of what I sought in a mainline FF game. I was never a big fan of FF's earlier attempts at political fantasy to begin with; didn't care all that much for FF Tactics' story (it was the gameplay that sold me hook, line, and sinker), and while I liked FF XII overall (not loved, liked), this aspect of its story dragged the game down and made it and every non-Balthier character involved stodgy and unrelatable.

FF16 is just a action game painted to look like final fantasy

replace the summons and chocobos ect with something new

and would you have ever compared the game to final fantasy

The big issue is that they take too long to make games.

There's no reason why the studio shouldn't have two major tentpoles per year. Two years between mainline FF's, mainline DQ's, Kingdom Hearts, and a major remake. They can't build any momentum or hype because of this.

Sounds like the game did well but not as well as they wanted and now share holders are selling off their shares becuase it's not making ENOUGH money?

If Square Enix needed FF16 to basically be purchased by anyone who owns or ever considered owning a PS5, then it sounds like they were already in very bad shape.

On the other hand, I'd rather they take their time than do what Pokemon does.

Pokemon has a new game every year, without fail. And look what happened to them recently.

Say what you will about FF7R and FF16, but if nothing else it would be very hard to argue that either game released with less polish and fewer glitches than BD/SP and Scarlet/Violet. And I say that as someone who enjoyed Sc/Vi.

while this is a very very good point

the issue with SE is their budgets are insane

I agree S/V is terrible but it sold. With the amount of time between series entries, SE has to worry about their fanbase LITERALLY dying off, particularly with Dragon Quest. If this means the games have to be less graphically impressive then so be it. Maybe don't feel the need to reinvent the wheel / create a new bespoke game engine for every new installment.

If this means FFXVII is the same type of game as XVI with different character models and slight improvements, then it makes sense from a business decision. Release it in two years. Start building momentum. SE has to create expectations in their consumers beyond the expectation that it's going to take forever for this to come out, and it's most likely going to be underwhelming.

The talent of their individual programmers and set designers are probably more to laud for them keeping a looser schedule moreso than their budget.

A game with apathetic programmers and novice designers could have twice the budget and make an inferior product.

uh no its well know that SE over bloats its budget and then has insane sales requirments

the 2013 tomb raider game (the best selling game in the franchise) sold 8 million and SE was not happy with those numbers

They sold 8 million copies at $60 USD.

errr not really no

ff1-X2 all feel like they are part of the same franchise

12 and 13 start to move away from that feel but still have some of it to them

15 is where they started to drop the feel of the franchise

and yet SE them selfs still said they did not make a profit off that 8 million

Has less to do with FF16 and more to do with Avengers, Forspoken, and various mobile games flopping.

They sold 8 million copies at $60 USD. They made $480,000,000 USD total from that. The gross profit before operations and overhead was almost $380,000,000.