Current Events > NM governor issues order suspending the right to carry firearms in public

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2, 3
gmanthebest
09/10/23 5:13:03 AM
#1:


https://apnews.com/article/albuquerque-guns-governor-concealed-carry-fc5b4b79bf411b8022c3ad58975724d7

For 30 days. Thoughts? Good decision? Or total overreach?

---
The large print giveth
And the small print taketh away
... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2
09/10/23 5:36:24 AM
#2:


gmanthebest posted...
total overreach


it's probably this.

then gun owners will say "they're taking away our guns, not over our cold dead body".

---
beware of sonic
... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam
09/10/23 6:12:31 AM
#3:


Based

---
~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~
I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs
... Copied to Clipboard!
Relient_K
09/10/23 6:12:59 AM
#4:


Ib4 desantis counters by requiring all Florida residents to open carry bazookas or face the death penalty.

---
We all ate the biscuits, Fighter. We can all see through time. [ER]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee
09/10/23 6:25:53 AM
#5:


Relient_K posted...
Ib4 desantis counters by requiring all Florida residents to open carry bazookas or face the death penalty.

Open carrying bazookas is the last thing Florida needs right now. Although, it might reveal that Disney World's secret ability to transform into a fortress.

---
Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault.
... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest
09/10/23 8:59:51 AM
#6:


Bump

---
The large print giveth
And the small print taketh away
... Copied to Clipboard!
Agonized_rufous
09/10/23 9:10:57 AM
#7:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Open carrying bazookas is the last thing Florida needs right now. Although, it might reveal that Disney World's secret ability to transform into a fortress.

When you wish with fire arms
It doesn't matter who you are
Anything your heart desires
Will come to youuuu

---
"All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana
... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe
09/10/23 9:11:34 AM
#8:


there's just no way that's constitutional

---
https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY
... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666
09/10/23 9:30:52 AM
#9:


Yeah, she has a history of grabbing guns

Wait til you hear about her settling that sexual harassment suit

---
"May the Father of Understanding guide you."
http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/10/23 9:32:41 AM
#10:


I mean is open carry in the Constitution? You can't open carry on an airplane or in an airport. You can't open carry in the governor mansion.

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer
09/10/23 9:34:38 AM
#11:


ClayGuida posted...
I mean is open carry in the Constitution? You can't open carry on an airplane or in an airport. You can't open carry in the governor mansion.

Some people call it constitutional carry.

I call that bullshit.

But I'm also not a lawyer to actively challenge the idea in court.

---
What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead
Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
09/10/23 9:42:24 AM
#12:


Anything that keeps guns away from people is a positive.

---
You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level
... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2
09/10/23 9:43:29 AM
#13:


ClayGuida posted...
I mean is open carry in the Constitution? You can't open carry on an airplane or in an airport. You can't open carry in the governor mansion.

it says concealed carry isnt allowed either, although Im not sure how they can enforce that without stopping and searching everyone

---
I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen...
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/10/23 9:59:12 AM
#14:


thronedfire2 posted...
it says concealed carry isnt allowed either, although Im not sure how they can enforce that without stopping and searching everyone
Most states I've lived in, until recently, you needed special clearance to conceal carry.

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
Thermador446
09/10/23 10:00:53 AM
#15:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Open carrying bazookas is the last thing Florida needs right now. Although, it might reveal that Disney World's secret ability to transform into a fortress.

I mean, why wouldn't you if gator moats are the natural terrain.

---
"While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch
... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002
09/10/23 10:15:35 AM
#16:


ClayGuida posted...
I mean is open carry in the Constitution? You can't open carry on an airplane or in an airport. You can't open carry in the governor mansion.

its a state by state issue, i know open carry is illegal in florida in most cases.

---
When money talks for the very last time, and nobody walks a step behind
When there's only one race, and that's mankind, then we shall be free
... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles
09/10/23 10:41:15 AM
#17:


This will get struck down so fast. She may even be impeached.

---
Intel 486, Integrated videocard, 16MB RAM, 64MB HD, 3 1/4 inch floppy
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/10/23 10:44:49 AM
#18:


PMarth2002 posted...
its a state by state issue, i know open carry is illegal in florida in most cases.
So it's not a constitutional right?

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
ironman2009
09/10/23 10:46:35 AM
#19:


I don't see her being governor very much longer.

---
THRILLHO
... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2
09/10/23 10:49:51 AM
#20:


ClayGuida posted...
Most states I've lived in, until recently, you needed special clearance to conceal carry.

yeah but you can always just concealed carry illegally because not everyone is getting searched in public. someone would only get a criminal charge for it if they got caught doing something else and cops found the gun

---
I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen...
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/10/23 10:50:23 AM
#21:


thronedfire2 posted...
yeah but you can always just concealed carry illegally because not everyone is getting searched in public. someone would only get a criminal charge for it if they got caught doing something else and cops found the gun
I mean you could break any law ever if you wanted, doesn't mean you were immune to consequences.

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten
09/10/23 11:04:37 AM
#22:


Poor gun owners can't bear to be away from their guns for 1 damn month?
... Copied to Clipboard!
Block_that_Kick
09/10/23 11:29:21 AM
#23:


gmanthebest posted...
https://apnews.com/article/albuquerque-guns-governor-concealed-carry-fc5b4b79bf411b8022c3ad58975724d7

For 30 days. Thoughts? Good decision? Or total overreach?

There is no emergency exception to take away constitutional rights. If a governor can do that with the second amendment, then they can do it with any and every amendment.

---
The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/10/23 11:34:38 AM
#24:


Block_that_Kick posted...
There is no emergency exception to take away constitutional rights. If a governor can do that with the second amendment, then they can do it with any and every amendment.
Where in the constitution does it say you can carry guns openly in public? And why can we have gun free zones such as court houses, airports, and so on?

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
Westernwolf4
09/10/23 11:39:31 AM
#25:


ironman2009 posted...
I don't see her being governor very much longer.

The legislature in NM is run by Democrats, and her second term doesnt expire for years. I doubt she is very concerned.

I do not know if her directive will stand up to Constitutional scrutiny-if I had to guess, I would say sadly that it wont. It is also largely performative, since law enforcement has mostly voiced a refusal to enforce it.

I do know this-we have to start doing something drastic about guns in this country. Things cant keep going the way they are-there is too much gun violence in this nation. I am much more concerned about starting a real conversation about gun control in the state where I grew up than the slight inconvenience faced by gun owners. If this starts that conversation in one household, it was worth it.

The way we look at guns in this country, especially since the Heller decision, is simply not sustainable for a safe and secure nation.


---
An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it.
... Copied to Clipboard!
#26
Post #26 was unavailable or deleted.
MagnusX
09/10/23 11:47:53 AM
#27:


As a Canadian who is constantly appalled by America's complete obsession with guns despite overwhelming evidence, this is a great sight to see, even if briefly.
... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002
09/10/23 2:17:10 PM
#28:


ClayGuida posted...
So it's not a constitutional right?

open carry is not a constitutional right.

---
When money talks for the very last time, and nobody walks a step behind
When there's only one race, and that's mankind, then we shall be free
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/10/23 5:23:39 PM
#29:


PMarth2002 posted...
open carry is not a constitutional right.
So this isn't a constitutional violation?

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV
09/10/23 5:30:18 PM
#30:


ClayGuida posted...
So this isn't a constitutional violation?

Yeah, people can still own guns. It doesn't matter though, since that's not how the courts will interpret it.

You also have the issue of enforcement too. The police department is not going to enforce the governor's order anyway.


---
We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV!
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/10/23 5:31:22 PM
#31:


YellowSUV posted...
The police department is not going to enforce the governor's order anyway.
Should be fired then for not doing their job.

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
FLOUR
09/10/23 5:45:03 PM
#32:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NHEelS6lGg

It looks like the criminals don't plan on following her orders.

---
You wish to fill Lionel's coffers? Yes, ha, ha, ha, yes!!!
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/10/23 5:49:16 PM
#33:


FLOUR posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NHEelS6lGg

It looks like the criminals don't plan on following her orders.
What orders do they follow?

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest
09/10/23 6:21:18 PM
#34:


FLOUR posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NHEelS6lGg

It looks like the criminals don't plan on following her orders.
To be fair, she did say that she's not expecting criminals to obey it.

---
The large print giveth
And the small print taketh away
... Copied to Clipboard!
[deleted]
09/11/23 2:02:02 PM
#40:


[deleted]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666
09/11/23 4:46:21 PM
#35:


She expected non criminals to be unarmed sitting ducks while acknowledging that criminals will continue to be armed. Smart

---
"May the Father of Understanding guide you."
http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html
... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida
09/11/23 4:48:11 PM
#36:


Lordgold666 posted...
She expected non criminals to be unarmed sitting ducks while acknowledging that criminals will continue to be armed. Smart
What does this even mean? How many armed robberies are thwarted because the victim has a gun?

---
lolAmerica
... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123
09/11/23 4:53:23 PM
#37:


Lordgold666 posted...
She expected non criminals to be unarmed sitting ducks while acknowledging that criminals will continue to be armed. Smart
Are you having one of those 'good guy with a gun' power fantasies?

If you were 'smart' yourself, you would know that carrying a gun increases your chances of being shot.

individuals in possession of a gun were 4.46 (P < .05) times more likely to be shot in an assault than those not in possession. Among gun assaults where the victim had at least some chance to resist, this adjusted odds ratio increased to 5.45

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2759797/


---
You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz
09/11/23 4:55:44 PM
#38:


How about amending the constitution for the betterment of the people rather than crying thats unconstitutional
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek
09/11/23 4:56:28 PM
#39:


Nice, a governor who actually cares about the well-being of its populace.

Doe posted...
there's just no way that's constitutional

It could be under that State Supreme court. If it stays a state case and doesn't get elevated to the federal USSC it may be found constitutional under theirs.

Also not every state allows for open carry, though it is a small minority, so clearly there's some precedence for it.

---
My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use)
... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm
09/11/23 4:59:56 PM
#41:


Well regulated

---
I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom
https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666
09/11/23 5:00:04 PM
#42:


Not gonna sit here and explain why armed criminals salivate at the thought of their victims being unarmed or how they wait until its dark to rob a store etc etc

---
"May the Father of Understanding guide you."
http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html
... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic
09/11/23 5:00:40 PM
#43:


The cops won't enforce it:
https://nmpoliticalreport.com/2023/09/11/bernalillo-county-sheriff-irritated-by-30-day-gun-ban-will-not-enforce-it/
Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen announced Monday in a press conference streamed to Facebook that his office would not enforce a public health order banning firearms in Bernalillo County for 30 days.

Allen called the order unconstitutional and said that his decision will also prevent violence against BCSO deputies.

(Lujan Grisham) knew we, as law enforcement, did not agree with the order, Allen said. My job is to keep the peace and to make sure that the citizens of Bernalillo County are safe and I do not believe that this order will help me do so. Im a law enforcement professional. This order will not do anything to curb gun violence other than punish law abiding citizens for their constitutional right to self defen se.

---
Have you tried thinking rationally?
... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate_reaver
09/11/23 5:00:44 PM
#44:


ClayGuida posted...
What does this even mean? How many armed robberies are thwarted because the victim has a gun?

https://apnews.com/article/shootings-indiana-indianapolis-gun-politics-8b49655e3737c1924480e1039405a196

tldr: very few

---
I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450
09/11/23 5:00:44 PM
#45:


"This is a violation of our constitutional rights!" - the same people who banned men from wearing dresses
... Copied to Clipboard!
#46
Post #46 was unavailable or deleted.
Will_VIII
09/11/23 5:13:45 PM
#47:


Zikten posted...
Poor gun owners can't bear to be away from their guns for 1 damn month?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/9/AAfdNfAAE1QL.jpg

---
Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery!
... Copied to Clipboard!
candyapplered
09/11/23 5:59:15 PM
#48:


darkace77450 posted...
"This is a violation of our constitutional rights!" - the same people who banned men from wearing dresses
Where are men banned from wearing dresses?

---
Stay swell and swole my friends of freedom!
... Copied to Clipboard!
ooger
09/11/23 7:09:48 PM
#49:


candyapplered posted...
Where are men banned from wearing dresses?

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/29/1190306861/drag-bans-fail-lgbtq-first-amendment-prurient-arkansas-florida-tennessee-montana

---
Dumpy Trumpy: Inmate No. P01135809
... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat_More_Beef
09/11/23 7:20:41 PM
#50:


Why'd she pass this? Is it in the wake of a shooting or that vigilante mob or something?

Sorry if I'm behind the times. I don't go online a lot anymore.

---
I wrote a horror novel, called "Spare Parts." A whole damn novel! You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2, 3