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MarcyWarcy posted...

all videos like this end up doing is pushing people towards him inadvertantly. theres nothing really there to "react" to or deconstruct or anything else, its just an animate pile of sludge bellowing about how mad he is. he doesnt even try to make arguments or anything. just trying to go viral by throwing a tantrum and hopefully getting some subs from other mad people

some real "just ignore the bigots" energy in posts like this

AceMos posted...

some real "just ignore the bigots" energy in posts like this

He isn't just a bigot, he's someone who is all but screaming "look at me look at me look at me im so crazy" to make money with their youtube channel who also happens to do it by being bigoted. They try to pull off big viral moments like this because there are a million of them all vying for the attention span of the same demographic. This is a case where if you ignore someone they will go away because this guy's channel is just nothing but him screaming dumb stuff to make money.

Either way probably the worst thing you can do is make videos where you calmly and collectively try to interface with the things that he's making, because it's ultimately just going to drive interaction for him either from curious people or from bigots who just found another clone of thequartering. He's not going to learn anything, his audience isn't going to learn anything, and he's going to keep grifting until he's forgotten or deplatformed.

Reactionaries make money from reacting to things. It's literally in the name. By getting people to engage and respond it's giving them more content to react and respond to. It's a self-sustaining cycle.

I saw this dude crying and seething on Dunkeys vid

HairyQueen posted...

Don't have to give him clicks. Just watch Samantha Lux react to it.
https://youtu.be/POZ3SsnhelI?si=JAFuvH3rYCIXhGA1

They're both literal "who"s.

AceMos posted...

some real "just ignore the bigots" energy in posts like this

He's not entirely wrong. This dude is a nobody with a niche following. Why bring attention to him, increase his following and raises the number of people who know about him?

Then complain about how he's spreading bigotry? Spreading the word about some nobody is helping him.

This guy might be a nobody, but the alt right is made up of millions of nobodies, and they all have the same opinion or variations on it and they aren't going away without being forced out of their collective bubble.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

This guy might be a nobody, but the alt right is made up of millions of nobodies, and they all have the same opinion or variations on it and they aren't going away without being forced out of their collective bubble.

Giving a voice and spreading the word of nobodies isn't fighting them.

You aren't forcing these people out of their bubble by giving nobodies free advertisement to gain a bigger following to spread their rhetoric and grow. All you are doing is growing their collective bubble for free.

NatsuSama posted...

Giving a voice and spreading the word of nobodies isn't fighting them.

I think people have a right to know what the little Nazis are up to. Besides which, yes, exposing them is important.

NatsuSama posted...

You aren't forcing these people out of their bubble by giving nobodies free advertisement to gain a bigger following to spread their rhetoric and grow. All you are doing is growing their collective bubble for free.

Like I said, no, it is important to expose them. There is no part of solving this problem that does not involve exposing them. Hiding them is certainly not the answer. The problem is that there is no systemic effort to solve the problem that is them. But that's a failure of capitalism, not of the people fighting Nazis.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

I think people have a right to know what the little Nazis are up to. Besides which, yes, exposing them is important

And like I said, people like you add to their following.

Revelation34 posted...

They're both literal "who"s.

Everyone's a "who" until you know them FYI

NatsuSama posted...

And like I said, people like you add to their following.

Oh yes, the people finding the Nazis are the ones supporting the Nazis.

I have absolutely zero interest in figuring out how your mind works.

creativerealms posted...

As far as I know that NPC isn't trans. Honestly if you accept human cloning it's also easy to accept a slight manipulation or mutation that leads XY to become XX.

You can legit ask her about it and she straight up tells you how much they edited the donor material..

Revelation34 posted...

They're both literal "who"s.

You are a literal who to me too.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Oh yes, the people finding the Nazis are the ones supporting the Nazis.

I have absolutely zero interest in figuring out how your mind works.

Yes, going out and advertising nobodies that dont have a large following, and literally giving those nobodies a free voice to spread their hate, is indeed helping them.

You can condemn Nazi rhetoric perfectly fine without advertising complete nobodies and growing their following.

NatsuSama posted...

Yes, going out and advertising nobodies that dont have a large following, and literally giving those nobodies a free voice to spread their hate, is indeed helping them.

You can condemn Nazi rhetoric perfectly fine without advertising complete nobodies and growing their following.

Like I said. I don't care to know about your thought process.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Like I said. I don't care to know about your thought process.

Putting aside for the moment that your thought process makes no sense since you can condemn complete nobodies specific actions without giving complete nobodies free advertisement that the nobody exists...essentially attracting like minded people to that nobody to grow their following.

That aside for the moment, you care enough about thought processes to come here and convince me you supposedly don't care and that in your thought process it is very important that everyone knows the nobody exists.

HairyQueen posted...

Everyone's a "who" until you know them FYI

They don't even have a million subscribers combined.

Revelation34 posted...

They don't even have a million subscribers combined.

I don't know about that other guy that you're subscribed to, but you're right about Samantha, she only has 634k. But look on the bright side, you know who she is now :)

natsu is one of those im no conservative but ill shill for conservative types just so you all know

HairyQueen posted...

I don't know about that other guy that you're subscribed to, but you're right about Samantha, she only has 634k. But look on the bright side, you know who she is now :)I

Why would I ever want to subscribe to Heelvsbabyface?

AceMos posted...

natsu is one of those im no conservative but ill shill for conservative types just so you all know

You are one of those echo chamber types that claims anyone who doesn't echo 100% of what you say must support conservatives, types.

Nothing I said actually shilled for conservatives. In fact my post is 100% saying stop giving nobodies who are conservative a free megaphone to grow their base. You don't need to give nobodies free clout to grow their base to condemn bigotry or any hateful behavior.

Klandace Owen's and Ben Shapiro have a huge base and should be openly condemned.., both the actions and the people. People like those 2 are not complete nobodies.

Complete nobodies however we should keep complete nobodies, and just continue to condemn the actions.

Revelation34 posted...

Why would I ever want to subscribe to Heelvsbabyface?

"Oh... you know the ones"

NatsuSama posted...

You are one of those echo chamber types that claims anyone who doesn't echo 100% of what you say must support conservatives, types.

Nothing I said actually shilled for conservatives. In fact my post is 100% saying stop giving nobodies who are conservative a free megaphone to grow their base. You don't need to give nobodies free clout to grow their base to condemn bigotry or any hateful behavior.

Who fucking cares if they grow their base? It's no one else's fault if morons start supporting some bigot on YouTube. If they were good people, the dude could be front-and-center in every corner of the Earth and still not have clout and a growing fanbase.

hockeybub89 posted...

Who fucking cares if they grow their base? It's no one else's fault if morons start supporting some bigot on YouTube. If they were good people, the dude could be front-and-center in every corner of the Earth and still not have clout and a growing fanbase.

Who cares if a bigot grows their base? If you claim to actually dislike bigots, this isn't a serious question. Same to question of assisting complete bigoted nobodies grow their base by getting more attention however they can.

Was this person known before this? I saw him mocked in the dunkey video, but had assumed he was a random no-name.

K181 posted...

Was this person known before this? I saw him mocked in the dunkey video, but had assumed he was a random no-name.

Not that well known I assume.

K181 posted...

Was this person known before this? I saw him mocked in the dunkey video, but had assumed he was a random no-name.

He used to be known for finding some interesting glitches/exploits in WoW. Then he became a sad sack, disappeared for some time, then reappeared as a right wing grifter.

K181 posted...

Was this person known before this? I saw him mocked in the dunkey video, but had assumed he was a random no-name.

Do you think a random no-name would be gaining this much attention?

Bass_X0 posted...

Do you think a random no-name would be gaining this much attention?

A topic here and a few videos mocking an idiot? There have been a lot more on a lot less famous people.

Bass_X0 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/1/AABA6UAAEz59.jpg

What does any of this stupid ass shit even mean?

Unknown5uspect posted...

What does any of this stupid ass shit even mean?

That people being gay or trans is not a fact of life but a sign of 'Western degeneracy' that is being pushed on us by a shadowy elite who want to destroy 'traditional Western culture' for some reason.

It is funny because it is such non-issues.
*subs*

NatsuSama posted...

Who cares if a bigot grows their base? If you claim to actually dislike bigots, this isn't a serious question. Same to question of assisting complete bigoted nobodies grow their base by getting more attention however they can.

Their base couldn't grow if people weren't stupid and hateful enough to follow them. No one else as any responsibility for it. Actual decent people would be immune.

Unknown5uspect posted...

What does any of this stupid ass shit even mean?

'Current Day' is smokescreen for "I don't like people reminding me that other humans exist for even a femtosecond because then I have to consider how my actions affect others"

It other words, thinking hurts his brain.

hockeybub89 posted...

Their base couldn't grow if people weren't stupid and hateful enough to follow them. No one else as any responsibility for it. Actual decent people would be immune.

that logic is dangerous

no one is immune to propaganda

He looks and sounds like a stereotypical man child. Like holy shit.

Lillymon posted...

That people being gay or trans is not a fact of life but a sign of 'Western degeneracy' that is being pushed on us by a shadowy elite who want to destroy 'traditional Western culture' for some reason.

Of course, 'traditional Western culture' has its origins in societies that would horrify these pearl clutchers.

reminder these "western values" where what forced homophobia and transphobia on other cultures to start with

Unknown5uspect posted...

What does any of this stupid ass shit even mean?

Something about how he can't make women orgasm so he's angry.

NatsuSama posted...

Putting aside for the moment that your thought process makes no sense since you can condemn complete nobodies specific actions without giving complete nobodies free advertisement that the nobody exists...essentially attracting like minded people to that nobody to grow their following.

Ignoring them will not make the problem go away. Confronting the matter is part of the solution. If you can't even start from that most basic premise, you aren't going to accomplish anything. Besides, this topic is already talking about them, if you don't like it or have anything useful to contribute then perhaps you should not speak.

NatsuSama posted...

That aside for the moment, you care enough about thought processes to come here and convince me you supposedly don't care and that in your thought process it is very important that everyone knows the nobody exists.

People already know "the nobody" exists. That's what this topic is about.

Heineken14 posted...

Something about how he can't make women orgasm so he's angry.

If any of the resident MRAs want to claim that people like him struggle to get dates, I won't argue.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

People already know "the nobody" exists. That's what this topic is about.

People only know these nobodies now exist because people like you literally give them free advertisement.

Bigots WANT people like you to be outraged and repost about them. They WANT to be known. In the world of media, saying things outrageous for clicks is an old concept. Attention wherever and whenever possible brings more views, clicks and followers.

If we were talking about people widely known, you'd have an actual point. Complete nobodies who are bigots however, seeking clout don't need the attention they so desperately want that you graciously provide to make them less of a nobody.

You can also condemn bigoted behavior without aiding complete nobodies efforts to become more well known. As their aim is most definitely to seek out more attention including from people who genuinely dislike their propaganda.

Just because you dont like someone doesnt make them a complete nobody.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/5/AABA6UAAE1B5.jpg

Anybody with 350K subscribers is far from a complete nobody.

350k is not a lot.

ooger posted...

350k is not a lot.

For real.

350k is less than the entire population of Wyoming

Bass_X0 posted...

Just because you dont like someone doesnt make them a complete nobody.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/5/AABA6UAAE1B5.jpg

Anybody with 350K subscribers is far from a complete nobody.

So this guy's icon is a baby kicked in the face?

Maybe he needs a timeout (and write an apology letter to babies everywhere).

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Ignoring them will not make the problem go away. Confronting the matter is part of the solution.

Honestly making more YouTube videos about him or putting his videos on Twitter to laugh at him isn't really confronting anything.

Like the content is funny. I get it. We can all laugh at how pathetic he is. But he still overall will benefit from this more than being harmed from it. That's the sucky paradox with conservative reactionaries.

NatsuSama posted...

People only know these nobodies now exist because people like you literally give them free advertisement.

No, that's not how this works. Grow up already and stop wasting our time.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Honestly making more YouTube videos about him or putting his videos on Twitter to laugh at him isn't really confronting anything.

This is true. Pointing at laughing at fascists doesn't really work; they make themselves ridiculous precisely to get people to underestimate their true intentions.