Current Events > The UN admitting it is too late and "climate breakdown has begun."

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Bin Laden was killed on sight for causing less destruction than what big oil is causing

I mean I do my part by not living in a city since in 2020 cities were responsible for up to 72% of global greenhouse gas emissions. If less people felt the need to live in urban areas we wouldn't be facing this climate crisis.

Living in dense locations is environmentally better than everyone spread out all over. Centralization of housing, jobs, services, etc is much better.

Human prosperity and envirementalism have always been completely incompatible.

Really not much that can be done. You'd have needed all countries to go cold turkey pretty much, which was never even a possibility. All we can really hope for is the development of technology that can mitigate or reverse it.

I disagree. The current modern lifestyle of massive consumption is not inherently prosperous, I would even argue the opposite.

Doesn't really matter if it is or isn't. If nobody wants it to end it'll continue regardless. No matter matter what good and convincing argument you tried to make towards it.

As soon as most people see the cost they either won't accept it or will backpadel as soon as the negative repercussions on them start to set in.

Lower quality life"

Seeing how furiously so many refused to even wear maskes, its hard to see how these same pepole would ever willingly live a " ensured lower quality life for there entire lives" without being forced to for most of there lives.

Seeing how furiously so many refused to even wear maskes, its hard to see how these same pepole would ever willingly live a " ensured lower quality life for there entire lives" without being forced to for most of there lives.

Doesn't really matter if it is or isn't. If nobody wants it to end it'll continue regardless. No matter matter what good and convincing argument you tried to make towards it.

As soon as most people see the cost they either won't accept it or will backpadel as soon as the negative repercussions on them start to set in.

We learned the greenhouse effect in fucking elementary school for chrissakes.

We can still avoid the worst of climate chaos," said the U.N.'s Guterres, adding: "We don't have a moment to lose."

There's no stopping this because even if our summers become unbearable to the point we can't go outside during the day for a month, civil political engagement can't cut through the ties industry has connected to Congress, and there's a lot of random interference vectors capable of dividing and fizzling any coordinated effort on any political topic.

I'm not saying there won't be successful action though, just that it won't be enough at all; and success itself can be an interference vector that will diminish further action.

Now we agree. People don't want to restrict their lifestyle even if it's to their own benefit (personal and global).

In order for there to be eco-terrorism on the rise, you need to have people emotionally invested in the environment from either a significant personal/community loss, or it needs to be driven to be popular.

Though, I wouldn't be surprised if the mass migrations that come from global warming are labeled as aggressive/violent acts from countries that will benefit or be less affected by what's going to come. That labeling has already happened before in a different context.

There's no stopping this because even if our summers become unbearable to the point we can't go outside during the day for a month, civil political engagement can't cut through the ties industry has connected to Congress, and there's a lot of random interference vectors capable of dividing and fizzling any coordinated effort on any political topic.

I'm not saying there won't be successful action though, just that it won't be enough at all; and success itself can be an interference vector that will diminish further action.

what kind of eco terrorism would even work at this point?

blowing up pipelines will cause oil spills and they'll just get fixed anyway. things have to change at the government level

I like how in 2020 and there was less traffic

It's a shame that this is all happening on its own and there aren't people we can throw in prison (at the least) to at least put a halt to all this shit.

I'm surprised eco-terrorism isn't common by now, tbh.

I don't believe we'd benefit at all actually. Not in our lifetime or generations to come even. Nevermind the countless many that will die as a consequence.

Assuming this is even reversable.

I like how in 2020 and there was less traffic, we were shown within just a few days how much of a difference it made all over the world, and then less than a year later we go back to as bad or worse in terms of pollution. Not a damn thing was learned.

People have an extreme aversion to collectivism, no one does anything personally because "I'm just one person". Just billions of one persons doing nothing, I wonder why nothing gets done???

It would have to target the people making the decisions. Probably at the level of assassination

I feel so bad for modern kids. Who knows what earth will look like by the time they are middle age

I'm confused. What I meant to say was that reducing mass consumption would benefit us all both personally and the planet.