Current Events > How do you explain how popular right wing parties have become in Europe?

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National Rally in France, the current party in power in Italy, and so on. Europe, in the late 20th century was pretty much the most liberal place on the planet. What happened?

They didn't properly wipe out Nazism the first time around, so it's just sort of bubbling under the surface, occasionally creeping through the cracks of liberalism.

Austerity economics post the 2008 crash hastening the failure of capitalism to provide. Leading to declining wages in real terms, falling living standards, and a sense of decay and disaffection.

Could blame the bankers, the capitalist system, and their political servants, but . . .wait! Look over there! Immigrants! They're not like you and me and they're taking our jobs and houses! There's no more room! Oh, my cultural identity!

Pretty much all the growth of the right is down to fear of immigration.

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Except for the fact that there are plenty of far right parties which are vehemently anti-Russian despite promoting similar social policies. For instance Law & Justice in Poland which wants to ban abortion and LGBT pride and turn Poland into a Catholic theocracy.

And plenty of parties have blood on their hands contributing to the Middle Eastern refugee crisis, not just Russia. The War on Terror and Iraq War lit the powder kegs.

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Im starting to think Russia was a mistake.

And while Fenriswolf isnt here in good faith, they do make a legitimate point that the US has a history of foreign (and domestic) fuckery on its hands too.

Fascism abroad. Fascism at home.
And thats cause for concern even from my perspective, with Australias eagerness to become the 51st state.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Im starting to think Russia was a mistake.

No, mass shock therapy in post-Cold War Eastern Europe was a mistake.

Post 2008 crisis was a factor, but the catalyst was probably the Middle East migrant crisis of the 2010s. Really brought up a lot of the cultural xenophobia they thought they got over.

Fenriswolf posted...

No, mass shock therapy in post-Cold War Eastern Europe was a mistake.

Humanity was a mistake.@_@

Fenriswolf posted...

No, mass shock therapy in post-Cold War Eastern Europe was a mistake.

You can draw a direct line between that and Putin.

Save some blame for the traditional left parties in many European countries, which have spent the decade tripping over their own dicks trying to preside over austerity or keep up with rising xenophobia.

It's a lot easier to control and screw people over by convincing them to reason for their shit lives is because of the other, doesn't matter how little sense it makes giving people a villain to hate, to take their frustrations out on as they please makes them feel good, just, maybe even fulfilled at least for a while, then they'll either come down from their rage high and see their life despite beating down/killing/abusing the told to them "villains" isn't getting better by then it'll be too late for them to do anything about it because the ones who pumped them with lies in the first place used that time to make them the new "villain" or made it so even if they realize what's up it's too late to change anything leaving them at the mercy of their tormenters knowing from their own time as the tormentors they will get none or leaving them to keep abusing the other least they become the other themselves and they fear that more than anything. As a result this cycle of villain and tormentor will continue for virtually decades maybe even centuries while thows who started it will reap the benefits of it until a collapse happens and most of all, even those who realize it will keep doing it because it's "easier" to do than to actually try and challenge it.

These days it's all about immigration and safety.

2015 the media in Austria wrote that this is going to be the most qualified migration wave in history. That migrants from Syria, Afghanistan and Pakistan got better education than the average here.

In the last 10 years, the situtation truly changed. Suddenly we need anti-terror security at a fking christmas market, and security in hospitals.

News about violent crimes hit close and closer. This year, the train station I used to travel to school as a teenager was already a place of a rape and a murder.

2021 a girl got raped and killed. They met her at a place I went to party as a young one every week, and killed her not far away from my grandmother. All offender were refugees. One of them got an appartment, a job and a caregiver from the social system.Another one got into the country just 2 months prior to that.

And no matter the crime, everyone still stays here in the country.

Over 51% of the school kids in Vienna don't speak german at home.

All the parties in the country, the conservatives, the socialists, the green, everyone ignores this, and acts like there is no problem at all.

Only the far-right russian-shills covid-denier nazies dare to say that we have a problem with the immigration.

The only thing I would want, is to take the canadian migration rules as the basis, and see that througth. That alone would be enough. Create a fair rule system for immigration, and kick out who commits crimes.

This is normal for every place in the world, but for Europe this is seen as far right extremism.

Carefully, but I guess that'd be pointless.

The UK started the trend and Brexit hurt

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

They didn't properly wipe out Nazism the first time around, so it's just sort of bubbling under the surface, occasionally creeping through the cracks of liberalism.

Lol you don't "wipe out" nazism, it's not a genetic trait.