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BunkerBoy
09/01/23 11:17:11 AM
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https://apnews.com/article/transgender-care-texas-minors-302e7a15c0442ce3eee6aacdcdf02b80

Not just surgery, puberty blockers, hormone treatments, pretty much anything that would help trans kids
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Cemith
09/01/23 11:17:58 AM
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The Stars and Stripes are big and bright!

Deep in the Trash~ of Texas

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SaikyoStyle
09/01/23 11:18:13 AM
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Is it hyperbolic to look at this and see the beginning of an attempted genocide?

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DarthAragorn
09/01/23 11:19:40 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Is it hyperbolic to look at this and see the beginning of an attempted genocide?
No

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Cocytus
09/01/23 11:20:43 AM
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Not really news.

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Humble_Novice
09/01/23 11:20:57 AM
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In before VGAddict90 comes and concern trolls everyone here.

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darkace77450
09/01/23 11:21:31 AM
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The overwhelming majority of scientific, medical, and child developmental experts agree that gender affirmation care is best for the child. The "Think of the Children" Republicans in Texas disagree.
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Cemith
09/01/23 11:21:44 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...
In before VGAddict90 comes and concern trolls everyone here.

But who will think of the transitioned who regretted it??? I'm just asking questions!

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BearlyWilling
09/01/23 11:22:33 AM
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Why educated/liberal people continue to live in that shithole state is beyond me

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GrandConjuraton
09/01/23 11:33:07 AM
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The entire Republican party should be considered a terrorist organization.

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Gritty
09/01/23 11:36:01 AM
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Next year when trans suicides spike theyll wonder why

actually they wont care
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Crimsoness
09/01/23 11:36:09 AM
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And I'm sure they're only concerned with the children and won't do the same for adults

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Nazanir
09/01/23 11:36:47 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Is it hyperbolic to look at this and see the beginning of an attempted genocide?
How on earth can you say that this is an attempt at genocide?

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ChainsawFerret
09/01/23 11:38:22 AM
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BearlyWilling posted...
Why educated/liberal people continue to live in that shithole state is beyond me

Moving costs money. And there's also logistics. Where to move? What job to work when they get one? Housing, storage, schooling, etc.

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Dreepapult
09/01/23 11:39:26 AM
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TheGoldenEel
09/01/23 11:40:42 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Is it hyperbolic to look at this and see the beginning of an attempted genocide?
How on earth can you say that this is only the beginning of an attempt at genocide?

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Cemith
09/01/23 11:42:24 AM
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Nazanir posted...
How on earth can you say that this is an attempt at genocide?
Nazanir post.

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darkace77450
09/01/23 11:42:42 AM
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Gritty posted...
Next year when trans suicides spike theyll wonder why

actually they wont care

They do acknowledge higher suicide rates among transgender kids, but they point to it as evidence that children being allowed to transition is harmful to them. They either don't see or refuse to admit that their demonetization of transgender kids is part of the reason suicide rates are higher among that demographic.
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SaikyoStyle
09/01/23 11:43:32 AM
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Nazanir posted...
How on earth can you say that this is an attempt at genocide?
By looking at it.

TheGoldenEel posted...
How on earth can you say that this is only the beginning of an attempt at genocide?
If someone wanted to correct me and say we are farther along, I wouldnt object.

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Nazanir
09/01/23 11:48:16 AM
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Cemith posted...
Nazanir post.
https://youtu.be/uOYKIpkueqM?si=DUHP09UQ9TuSFMIu

This is why.

Also, if the suicide rate pre-op and post-op are the same, then it clearly is not the solution. Other options need to be explored, but not having minors make life altering changes to their body of which they cannot fathom the concequences.

Everyone strugles with identity, that is part of growing up. But that should not equate to genderaffirming care, which is equally damaging as not providing that care.

We need better, less harmful solutions.

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SaikyoStyle
09/01/23 11:49:34 AM
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Looking forward to your imminent ban.

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Nazanir
09/01/23 11:49:49 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Looking forward to your imminent ban.
For what, having an opinion?

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GrandConjuraton
09/01/23 11:51:13 AM
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Nazanir posted...
https://youtu.be/uOYKIpkueqM?si=DUHP09UQ9TuSFMIu

This is why.

Also, if the suicide rate pre-op and post-op are the same, then it clearly is not the solution. Other options need to be explored, but not having minors make life altering changes to their body of which they cannot fathom the concequences.

Everyone strugles with identity, that is part of growing up. But that should not equate to genderaffirming care, which is equally damaging as not providing that care.

We need better, less harmful solutions.
And you don't suppose that intolerance and outright abuse and bigotry from people like you has nothing to do with the suicide rates?

What a poor joke.

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Humble_Novice
09/01/23 11:51:23 AM
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Nazanir posted...
For what, having an opinion?
Reported for transphobia.

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Cemith
09/01/23 11:51:32 AM
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Nazanir posted...
https://youtu.be/uOYKIpkueqM?si=DUHP09UQ9TuSFMIu

This is why.

Also, if the suicide rate pre-op and post-op are the same, then it clearly is not the solution. Other options need to be explored, but not having minors make life altering changes to their body of which they cannot fathom the concequences.

Everyone strugles with identity, that is part of growing up. But that should not equate to genderaffirming care, which is equally damaging as not providing that care.

We need better, less harmful solutions.

One person is not proof, and it's laughable that this is your best response. It's very on brand for you though, so by all means keep going. Also, Dr. Phil? Mr. "How many times have you read 1984?"? That guy?

Cemith posted...
Nazanir post.

darkace77450 posted...
I'll see your Dr Phil anecdote and raise you bona fide experts in the field of medicine and child development.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-reinforces-opposition-restrictions-transgender-medical-care
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2018/aap-policy-statement-urges-support-and-care-of-transgender-and-gender-diverse-children-and-adolescents/
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/gender-affirmative-care


No don't do that, you'll stop him from posting!

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Dreepapult
09/01/23 11:51:47 AM
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darkace77450
09/01/23 11:51:56 AM
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Nazanir posted...
Literally Dr. Phil...

I'll see your Dr Phil anecdote and raise you bona fide experts in the field of medicine and child development.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-reinforces-opposition-restrictions-transgender-medical-care
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2018/aap-policy-statement-urges-support-and-care-of-transgender-and-gender-diverse-children-and-adolescents/
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/gender-affirmative-care
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BombermanGold
09/01/23 11:52:01 AM
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Nazanir posted...
We need better, less harmful solutions.

So how is this total ban not a harmful solution?

You don't trust in the mental health system to do their diligence in screening a kid/teen any before (with the approval of the parents) starting any kind of gender affirmation treatment?

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Humble_Novice
09/01/23 11:55:06 AM
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Just collectively report Nazanir for their transphobic comments.

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Nazanir
09/01/23 11:56:07 AM
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darkace77450 posted...
I'll see your Dr Phil anecdote and raise you bona fide experts in the field of medicine and child development.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-reinforces-opposition-restrictions-transgender-medical-care
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2018/aap-policy-statement-urges-support-and-care-of-transgender-and-gender-diverse-children-and-adolescents/
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/gender-affirmative-care
Then why do things lime this happen:
https://youtu.be/DSGgR3W_jjg?si=ZLc2ubqp3ZzKAkDZ


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AnsestralRecall
09/01/23 11:57:22 AM
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Nazanir posted...
https://youtu.be/uOYKIpkueqM?si=DUHP09UQ9TuSFMIu

This is why.

Also, if the suicide rate pre-op and post-op are the same, then it clearly is not the solution. Other options need to be explored, but not having minors make life altering changes to their body of which they cannot fathom the concequences.

Everyone strugles with identity, that is part of growing up. But that should not equate to genderaffirming care, which is equally damaging as not providing that care.

We need better, less harmful solutions.

Shut up
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mercurydude
09/01/23 11:57:29 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Is it hyperbolic to look at this and see the beginning of an attempted genocide?

It's known that that's what their endgame is. A while back, they were trying to get a list of every known trans person in the state.

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Cemith
09/01/23 11:57:49 AM
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Nazanir posted...
Then why do things lime this happen:
https://youtu.be/DSGgR3W_jjg?si=ZLc2ubqp3ZzKAkDZ

Homie linked you three comprehensive studies about trans youth and you've managed to provide two people who regret it out of hundreds of thousands. You can't be a serious person.

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BunkerBoy
09/01/23 11:57:51 AM
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Nazanir posted...
*video*

Did you seriously link Dr Phil? Lmao

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VGAddict90
09/01/23 11:59:18 AM
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Travis County went bluer than Queens County in 2022, but continue to write Texas off as a lost cause.
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darkace77450
09/01/23 12:01:18 PM
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Nazanir posted...
Then why do things lime this happen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_anecdote

An argument from anecdoteis an informal logical fallacy, where anecdotal evidence is presented as an argument; without any other contributory evidence or reasoning. This type of argument is considered as an informal logical fallacy as it is unpersuasive since the anecdote could be made up, misconstrued or be a statistical outlier which is insignificant when further evidence is considered.
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AnsestralRecall
09/01/23 12:04:54 PM
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People who detransition for reasons other than bullying and harassment are such a small number of trans people that they are barely statistically significant.

It does happen. It really does suck, but stop using a percent of a percent of the global trans population to deny us what we need.
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BombermanGold
09/01/23 12:04:56 PM
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Nazanir posted...
Then why do things lime this happen:
https://youtu.be/DSGgR3W_jjg?si=ZLc2ubqp3ZzKAkDZ

Do you seriously think that kind of regret is widespread among those who transitioned? Really?

At least answer one of us, goddamn.

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DnDer
09/01/23 12:05:06 PM
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Hopefully this makes it out of Texas and gets flipped on appeal.

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Nazanir
09/01/23 12:06:42 PM
#43:


BombermanGold posted...
Do you seriously think that kind of regret is widespread among those who transitioned? Really?

At least answer one of us, goddamn.
So what, it should be ignored instead?

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Cemith
09/01/23 12:07:10 PM
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Nazanir posted...
So what, it should be ignored instead?

Literally yes.

Cemith posted...
Nazanir post.


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Nazanir
09/01/23 12:07:47 PM
#45:


Cemith posted...
Literally yes.
So you are okay with completely devastating someone's life?

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FortuneCookie
09/01/23 12:08:16 PM
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This is absolutely an attempt at genocide. And it's nave for anyone to think that it'll stop here. Next could be an "anti-pedophile" law which makes it illegal for anyone to engage in romantic or sexual activity with a minor of the same sex (i.e. it's now illegal for a fifteen-year-old to kiss his boyfriend of the same age).

The state government of Texas is likely going to do all that it can to make it illegal to be LGBTQ and a minor. They don't care if they drive children and teens to suicide. Whatever it takes to "fix" the state's problem with gay and/or transsexual individuals.
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DnDer
09/01/23 12:08:54 PM
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Nazanir posted...
For what, having an opinion?

For having an opinion with no foundation in science, let alone reality, deliberately misconstruing suicide statistics to lie about the effectiveness of gender affirming care (and transition), and being a general transphobe, maybe?

It's going to get you modded, at the very least.

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BunkerBoy
09/01/23 12:08:54 PM
#48:


Nazanir posted...
So you are okay with completely devastating someone's life?
You're talking about ruining a ton of people's lives because of a couple anecdotes given by Dr Phil that may or may not be real
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BombermanGold
09/01/23 12:09:10 PM
#49:


Nazanir posted...
So you are okay with completely devastating someone's life?

*circles back to my earlier question*

Do you really think those who regret the transition is widespread?

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DnDer
09/01/23 12:09:24 PM
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DnDer posted...
For having an opinion with no foundation in science, let alone reality, deliberately misconstruing suicide statistics to lie about the effectiveness of gender affirming care (and transition), and being a general transphobe, maybe?

It's going to get you modded, at the very least.

Also using Dr Phil as a source.

What the hell?

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