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08/29/23 9:01:51 AM
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UnlikedMonkey
08/29/23 10:42:13 AM
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Police in a Columbus suburb fatally shot a pregnant woman in an Ohio supermarket parking lot after she accelerated her car toward an officer, police officials said.
TaKiya Young, 21, of Columbus, died Thursday evening in Blendon.
A supermarket employee told officers who were at the store on an unrelated matter that multiple people were fleeing from the store with stolen items, Blendon Police Chief John Belford said. That included Young who had allegedly taken multiple bottles of alcohol. One officer went to the drivers side of Youngs car and told her to stop, Belford said, while the other officer moved in front of the vehicle.
Young then put the car in gear and accelerated forward, Belford said, and the officer directly in the vehicles path fired one shot through the front windshield. Youngs car then traveled about 50 feet before coming to a stop on the sidewalk outside the store.
She was pronounced dead a short time later. Young was due to give birth in November, her family told The Columbus Dispatch. Her unborn daughter did not survive the shooting. Young was the mother of two sons, ages 6 and 3.
The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation is leading the investigation into the fatal shooting, Belford said.
The names of the two officers and further information about them including their ages and race have not been released. They are on paid administrative leave while the shooting is investigated, which is standard procedure in such incidents, Belford said.
The shooting was captured on police body cam video, but it wasnt clear Monday when that will be made public.
Youngs family told The Columbus Dispatch they have many questions about the shooting, mainly why she was deemed a lethal threat.
She stole something from the store, her grandmother, Nadine Young, told the newspaper. You didnt have to shoot the woman; she would have eventually gotten out of the car. You didnt have to kill her and the baby.

https://apnews.com/article/pregnant-woman-killed-police-shooting-ohio-c012c53ca8d11fbb839d593a724da288

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ScazarMeltex
08/29/23 10:45:09 AM
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This is why when you see someone shoplifting you keep your fucking mouth shut. The only time you should ever call the cops on anyone is if they are direct threat to yours or someone else's life.

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Slayer_22
08/29/23 10:46:13 AM
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Based on what I'm reading, she shoplifted, got in her car, cops tried to get her to exit the vehicle, then she accelerated, tried to hit an officer in front of her car and he fired, the bullet hit and she died from her injuries?

Now people are asking why she had to be shot? Should the cop have allowed her to run him over without question? I'm confused here.

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KaZooo
08/29/23 10:46:44 AM
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UnlikedMonkey posted...
You didnt have to shoot the woman; she would have eventually gotten out of the car
I'm not sure about that

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Dreepapult
08/29/23 10:47:31 AM
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Is it standard for cops to stand right in front of a fleeing car? Sounds like a good way to force a situation like this. Either the person runs the cop down or they're going to shoot them.

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Rikishi
08/29/23 10:47:45 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Based on what I'm reading, she shoplifted, got in her car, cops tried to get her to exit the vehicle, then she accelerated, tried to hit an officer in front of her car and he fired, the bullet hit and she died from her injuries?

Now people are asking why she had to be shot? Should the cop have allowed her to run him over without question? I'm confused here.
It's not that difficult to move out of the way. It's not like she was going 50 mph or something
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SaikyoStyle
08/29/23 10:48:53 AM
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Dreepapult posted...
Is it standard for cops to stand right in front of a fleeing car? Sounds like a good way to force a situation like this. Either the person runs the cop down or they're going to shoot them.
Seems like a dumb risk too. Even if you hit the driver, the car is still moving.

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DarthAragorn
08/29/23 10:49:52 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Seems like a dumb risk too. Even if you hit the driver, the car is still moving.
Free paid vacation though, what's the downside (for cops)

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Slayer_22
08/29/23 10:49:54 AM
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Rikishi posted...
It's not that difficult to move out of the way. It's not like she was going 50 mph or something
...no one should accelerate their car towards a person in the first place though...? Especially not for shoplifting.

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s0nicfan
08/29/23 10:50:07 AM
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Rikishi posted...
It's not that difficult to move out of the way. It's not like she was going 50 mph or something

It's even easier to not try to run over a police officer with your car.

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ai123
08/29/23 10:50:45 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Based on what I'm reading, she shoplifted, got in her car, cops tried to get her to exit the vehicle, then she accelerated, tried to hit an officer in front of her car and he fired, the bullet hit and she died from her injuries?

Now people are asking why she had to be shot? Should the cop have allowed her to run him over without question? I'm confused here.
If the cop has time to aim and fire a fatal shot, he has time to step out of the way.

If a car is that close you can't get out of the way, standing there while you shoot the driver isn't going to stop it.

And no, I don't think a shoplifter needs to be stopped at all costs. Get the numberplate, visit their home later.

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ScazarMeltex
08/29/23 10:51:19 AM
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Dreepapult posted...
Is it standard for cops to stand right in front of a fleeing car? Sounds like a good way to force a situation like this. Either the person runs the cop down or they're going to shoot them.
That's all cops do is escalate situations. Don't fucking surround her, that triggers fight or flight, which in either case here is bad because if she fights she's gonna try and hit you with a car, if she flights you might get hit by the car. Get her license plate and get her at home ffs. Or if it's a stolen car, she'll ditch it and have gotten away with a few bottles of liquor. But instead, they forced a confrontation and now she's fucking dead.

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Rikishi
08/29/23 10:52:13 AM
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And sad the cop probably won't get charged with anything as they use the excuse of her trying to hit him with the car. When simply he could had moved out of the way . Now the cop killed a mother and child
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Slayer_22
08/29/23 10:52:40 AM
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ai123 posted...
If the cop has time to aim and fire a fatal shot, he has time to step out of the way.

If a car is that close you can't get out of the way, standing there while you shoot the driver isn't going to stop it.
The alternative is expecting someone not to run you over though.

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Rikishi
08/29/23 10:53:12 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
The alternative is expecting someone not to run you over though.
Seems like you will be on the cops side no matter what. Stop sounding like a troll
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Crimsoness
08/29/23 10:53:16 AM
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Rikishi posted...
And sad the cop probably won't get charged with anything as they use the excuse of her trying to hit him with the car. When simply he could had moved out of the way . Now the cop killed a mother and child
Well think of the alternative, she might have gotten free alcohol!

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Dreepapult
08/29/23 10:53:28 AM
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Yeah they really need to do better risk assessment. No one should be at risk of dying just because they shoplifted. It's not like she had killed someone.

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DarthWendy
08/29/23 10:54:18 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Based on what I'm reading, she shoplifted, got in her car, cops tried to get her to exit the vehicle, then she accelerated, tried to hit an officer in front of her car and he fired, the bullet hit and she died from her injuries?

Now people are asking why she had to be shot? Should the cop have allowed her to run him over without question? I'm confused here.

Because CE hates police regardless and will often stand with the felons.


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Rikishi
08/29/23 10:54:34 AM
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Also if you shop lift you should be given the opportunity to give back the things you stole. Instead of being taken to jail
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ai123
08/29/23 10:56:33 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
The alternative is expecting someone not to run you over though.
What does that have to do with anything? She drove at the cop, the cop had a choice between stepping out of the way or killing her.

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COVxy
08/29/23 10:57:01 AM
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Dreepapult posted...
Yeah they really need to do better risk assessment. No one should be at risk of dying just because they shoplifted. It's not like she had killed someone.

She attempted to. And whose to say she doesn't do the same after they let her leave? If she then kills somebody, same type of responsibility lies on the cop's shoulders.

The reality is that the store owners probably should have never notified the cops. But CE also loves to support store workers and owners having the right to kill shoplifters if there's any way to construe the behavior as dangerous, so who the fuck knows what response my post will get.

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Philip027
08/29/23 10:57:16 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This is why when you see someone shoplifting you keep your fucking mouth shut. The only time you should ever call the cops on anyone is if they are direct threat to yours or someone else's life.

Yeah, I'll just let people steal all my shit. As long as they aren't threatening me, it's fine. And if they were pregnant, clearly they can do no wrong anyway.
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Slayer_22
08/29/23 10:57:16 AM
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Rikishi posted...
Seems like you will be on the cops side no matter what. Stop sounding like a troll
...dude, what? How am I a troll? Because I disagree with you? I just don't think anyone should run someone over. The clear aggressor here is the woman. Cop should not stand directly in front of a car, but that shouldn't mean driving into them is an option under any circumstance.

I have a feeling you'd agree with the woman here regardless of circumstance, because instead of accessing the situation you're just thinking cop=bad. Cops can be bad, yes, easily, but in this case, lady tried to run someone over. Why are we ignoring that here?

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AzNDarkSamurai
08/29/23 10:57:34 AM
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whats sad is nobody is gonna care because shes black

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Slayer_22
08/29/23 10:58:36 AM
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ai123 posted...
What does that have to do with anything? She drove at the cop, the cop had a choice between stepping out of the way or killing her.
So...what, it's okay to attempt vehicular manslaughter? She was attempting to run him over, why is this not important? Attempted murder is attempted murder.

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Aztex
08/29/23 10:58:38 AM
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Rikishi posted...
Also if you shop lift you should be given the opportunity to give back the things you stole. Instead of being taken to jail

That makes no sense at all.....by this logic 100 people could go rob a store at once and if they catch 1 of them all they have to do is return the things and they're free to go?

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COVxy
08/29/23 10:59:45 AM
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Philip027 posted...
Yeah, I'll just let people steal all my shit. As long as they aren't threatening me, it's fine. And if they were pregnant, clearly they can do no wrong anyway.

Yes, the outcome is much better than if you attempt to stop them or call the cops. Not to mention you can just report the goods to your supplier as broken and they will refund it without question in my experience.

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Solution_45
08/29/23 11:00:08 AM
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ce really defending someone that tried to run a cop over

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Rikishi
08/29/23 11:00:25 AM
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Aztex posted...
That makes no sense at all.....by this logic 100 people could go rob a store at once and if they catch 1 of them all they have to do is return the things and they're free to go?
I'm talking about a single person. If they are shop lifting and leave the store. Then confronted by any employee. They should be able to give the stuff back instead of the police getting involved. If the take this opportunity it's up to them
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pnut027
08/29/23 11:04:25 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This is why when you see someone shoplifting you keep your fucking mouth shut. The only time you should ever call the cops on anyone is if they are direct threat to yours or someone else's life.
The employee has every right and duty to report shoplifting to the cops.

What comes if it is neither fault nor the responsibility of the employee.

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08/29/23 11:04:44 AM
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If a bunch of armed thugs surround my car, I'm going to feel in danger.

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Villain_S_Fiend
08/29/23 11:04:44 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Now people are asking why she had to be shot? Should the cop have allowed her to run him over without question? I'm confused here.
I'm asking why the cops had to be so aggressive over shoplifting when they're in prime position to get all the info they need to follow up on this non-violent misdemeanor later.

All cops know how to do is escalate, and it gets people killed over bad decisions that otherwise wouldn't have hurt anyone.

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VeggetaX
08/29/23 11:04:58 AM
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Remember, if someone tries to run you over if you don't move out of the way it's your fault.

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Rikishi
08/29/23 11:06:54 AM
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pnut027
08/29/23 11:07:50 AM
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Rikishi posted...
Also if you shop lift you should be given the opportunity to give back the things you stole. Instead of being taken to jail
She was given the opportunity to give it back. She chose to stomp the gas.

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Trumpo
08/29/23 11:09:08 AM
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Poorly executed decision by the shoplifter

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Slayer_22
08/29/23 11:10:29 AM
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Villain_S_Fiend posted...
I'm asking why the cops had to be so aggressive over shoplifting when they're in prime position to get all the info they need to follow up on this non-violent misdemeanor later.

All cops know how to do is escalate, and it gets people killed over bad decisions that otherwise wouldn't have hurt anyone.
It isn't aggressive to stand there and ask for her to leave the car. Logically, the cop didn't need to stand directly in front of the car and could have moved a few feet back(No idea if he did as much). But there is NO SITUATION where you should be running over another human being. It's literally attempted murder.

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GATTJT
08/29/23 11:11:03 AM
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Is there any body cam footage? We can't trust the words of a cop.

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AnsestralRecall
08/29/23 11:11:20 AM
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Disarm the police.
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Slayer_22
08/29/23 11:12:11 AM
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GATTJT posted...
Is there any body cam footage? We can't trust the words of a cop.
The article says it isn't released at the moment.

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pnut027
08/29/23 11:13:25 AM
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COVxy posted...
Yes, the outcome is much better than if you attempt to stop them or call the cops. Not to mention you can just report the goods to your supplier as broken and they will refund it without question in my experience.
In my opinion, thats fraud. In my experience, suppliers want broken merchandise back to verify the report and to investigate the process that resulted in the broken goods. You cant send it back if you dont have it.

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GATTJT
08/29/23 11:13:34 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
The article says it isn't released at the moment.
Then they're lying until proven otherwise.

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chitown82
08/29/23 11:31:02 AM
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Don't steal and don't resist arrest. Should be common sense by now.
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Zikten
08/29/23 11:35:53 AM
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I made the original topic on this, last week. What I heard is the opposite. That she was not a shoplifter but was mistaken for one. And that she didn't know the cops were cops. They were apparently in plain clothes. She panicked and tried to flee what she thought was a gang of violent random men

This new article seems like the cops trying to change the story
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