Current Events > People against protesting really believe nothing is important

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Rather, nothing is more important than daily life. There is a 3 volume critique of daily life. That is all.

If you block the road Im throwing recyclables in the trash just to spite you.

radical_rhino posted...

If you block the road Im throwing recyclables in the trash just to spite you.

Cry less

"People against protesting really believe nothing is important"

Well this dude on a dying video game website said this is how it is, so I guess it's TRUE!

A person can think both that a cause is important and that a particular method of protesting for that cause is bad.

Tenlaar posted...

A person can think both that a cause is important and that a particular method of protesting for that cause is bad.

I'm just saying it's silly to rule out an option you don't know you might need down the road. CE's fundamental conservatism makes us certain nothing ever changes, so there's no need to worry. But that is utterly wrong.

It only works when there's numbers in mass. 10 people clogging up a highway isn't going to do shit and probably have a negative effect towards the cause rather than positive.

voldothegr8 posted...

It only works when there's numbers in mass. 10 people clogging up a highway isn't going to do shit and probably have a negative effect towards the cause rather than positive.

But the people who don't protest don't like protesting and would probably not do it out of spite because they have no values

MedeaLysistrata posted...

I'm just saying it's silly to rule out an option you don't know you might need down the road. CE's fundamental conservatism makes us certain nothing ever changes, so there's no need to worry. But that is utterly wrong.

Conservativism? CE is pretty damned liberal

Dreepapult posted...

Conservativism? CE is pretty damned liberal

A majority of CE has liberal beliefs but that falls apart if you pay literally any attention to what people are posting.

Hmmm. Maybe.

radical_rhino posted...

If you block the road Im throwing recyclables in the trash just to spite you.

Internet tuff guy.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

But the people who don't protest don't like protesting and would probably not do it out of spite because they have no values

People who don't protest =/= they have no morals, and you're shitty for saying that.

Be a decent person first, THEN you can try for the moral grandstand.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

People who don't protest =/= they have no morals, and you're shitty for saying that.

Be a decent person first, THEN you can try for the moral grandstand.

No because these people with their life in order lose the plot so fast

Even when we're not discussing people blocking roads there hasn't been a single form of protest that CE collective consensus can manage to get behind. Once people start talking about boycotting music, movies, video games, or other forms of entertainment the topic usually devolves into people making the argument that creators are entitled to your money and that boycotting is pointless.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Even when we're not discussing people blocking roads there hasn't been a single form of protest that CE collective consensus can manage to get behind. Once people start talking about boycotting music, movies, video games, or other forms of entertainment the topic usually devolves into people making the argument that creators are entitled to your money and that boycotting is pointless.

Maybe... maybe not

It's pretty funny tho when "protesters" burn down local businesses and thereby hurt the people the protests were supposed to be benefiting.

lilORANG posted...

It's pretty funny tho when "protesters" burn down local businesses and thereby hurt the people the protests were supposed to be benefiting.

Mostly peaceful firey protests

They should realize that they as individuals are unimportant instead

Boycotts work some of the time, sometimes they don't. Don't support terrible companies and their abusive behavior. If people are rightly protesting, let them protest and stand aside.

I don't care if people protest, but doing it in a way that inconveniences me is a surefire way for make me be against them no matter what their cause is.

lilORANG posted...

It's pretty funny tho when "protesters" burn down local businesses and thereby hurt the people the protests were supposed to be benefiting.

Why is that funny lilORANG

Philip027 posted...

I don't care if people protest, but doing it in a way that inconveniences me is a surefire way for make me be against them no matter what their cause is.

So you'd start beating your pets if PETA idiots tried to throw animal blood at you?

hockeybub89 posted...

So you'd start beating your pets if PETA idiots tried to throw animal blood at you?

Lol

hockeybub89 posted...

So you'd start beating your pets if PETA idiots tried to throw animal blood at you?

Did this even make sense in your head?

hockeybub89 posted...

So you'd start beating your pets if PETA idiots tried to throw animal blood at you?

Keeping your pets alive and safe is about as Anti-PETA as you can get.

hockeybub89 posted...

So you'd start beating your pets if PETA idiots tried to throw animal blood at you?

... what the hell

Was this your best attempt at a gotcha? I'm not even sure.

It makes perfect sense.

"I agree with humane treatment of animals"

*group does bad things in name of such cause*

"That's it! I'm against that entire idea until some good group protests correctly around me!"

Does that sound rational? If you care about a cause, why would the actions of individuals change your mind? Wouldn't you just call PETA a bunch of dumbasses and continue to not abuse animals?

I think hockey was joking?

I honestly can't tell. It made me laugh with how absurd it was.

I agree. People don't actually like the protests and they should just admit it. Instead they keep saying "oh, this version is just bad"

Philip027 posted...

I don't care if people protest, but doing it in a way that inconveniences me is a surefire way for make me be against them no matter what their cause is.

I don't get why people tell on themselves like this. In what world do people voluntarily admit that they have no agency. But instead, their support for a cause is dependent on if a protest inconveniences them.

Couldn't be me.

the way modern protesting works seems like a desperate attempt to become the next greta thunberg

hockeybub89 posted...

It makes perfect sense.

"I agree with humane treatment of animals"

*group does bad things in name of such cause*

"That's it! I'm against that entire idea until some good group protests correctly around me!"

Does that sound rational? If you care about a cause, why would the actions of individuals change your mind? Wouldn't you just call PETA a bunch of dumbasses and continue to not abuse animals?

I said I would oppose the people/organization that inconvenienced me. I don't know where/how you made the leap in logic that I would suddenly start abusing animals.

Vibe check

A_Good_Boy posted...

Once people start talking about boycotting music, movies, video games, or other forms of entertainment the topic usually devolves into people making the argument that creators are entitled to your money

I have literally never seen that argument.

Philip027 posted...

I said I would oppose the people/organization that inconvenienced me. I don't know where/how you made the leap in logic that I would suddenly start abusing animals.

That poster keeps acting like not supporting a group due to their actions means that youre making a decision to become exactly what they are protesting against. Its weird.

People aren't against protesting. They're just against the causes being protested, or rather value them.

Look at how conservatives responded to racial protests with horror and venom, but then when they did their little trucker protests over shutdowns the ended literally a fucking year before the protest? They were filled with glee.

It's just a general matter of fact that if you're against a protest, you simply just don't give a fuck about the issue.

I support antifa. They're anti-fascist, I'm anti-fascist. One day some antifa dudes beat the shit out of me, in the name of anti-fascism. I no longer support antifa. Now someone comes along and says "if you don't support antifa, you don't support anti-fascism, and you would have supported Hitler".

shnangyboos posted...

I support antifa. They're anti-fascist, I'm anti-fascist. One day some antifa dudes beat the shit out of me, in the name of anti-fascism. I no longer support antifa. Now someone comes along and says "if you don't support antifa, you don't support anti-fascism, and you would have supported Hitler".

Don't try to understand hockey. He is an enigma.

im against rioting, not protesting. You have the right to protest anything you want no matter what belief you have is. You dont have the right to cause damage to propertys that have nothing to do with your protests

godofwar596 posted...

im against rioting, not protesting. You have the right to protest anything you want no matter what belief you have is. You dont have the right to cause damage to propertys that have nothing to do with your protests

But they have insurance bro

/S

What people really want is excuses for their apathy and laziness.

Dreepapult posted...

But they have insurance bro

/S

Oh shit here we go

Itt people only protest for good causes and we should be okay with our rights being infringed on based whatever arbitrary shit someone else thinks is important

Dreepapult posted...

Conservativism? CE is pretty damned liberal

CE has conservatives and liberals who are in an absolute sense pretty conservative, as well as "leftists" who are almost exclusively mainstream progressives, which are in actuality centrists.

CE is only liberal or left in the context of how far to the right the American political spectrum exists by default.

VeggetaX posted...

Oh shit here we go

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AloneIBreak posted...

CE has conservatives and liberals who are in an absolute sense pretty conservative, as well as "leftists" who are almost exclusively mainstream progressives, which are in actuality centrists.

CE is only liberal or left in the context of how far to the right the American political spectrum exists by default.

This is true I suppose. Some myopia on my behalf. Have a very USA centered viewpoint

Asherlee10 posted...

I think this is a keen observation.

At the same time, protesting needs to evolve with society. We live in a different world where standing outside of a building with signs isn't as effective as it used to be. People try new methods that seem to generally upset people in the wrong way.

Instead of fighting against the current, we, as a society, should try to be more creative in designing effective protest methods. I am not smart enough or educated in the right areas to conjure up those possible solutions, but I know there are people out there that can.

Yeah i dont want my post to be misconstrued as "protesting is always bad" its just that we cant start normalizing infringing on rights just because its a cause someone believes is important with zero checks & balances

The reddit blackout is an interesting (albeit ultimately ineffective) example of a more creative protest that was visible but didnt infringe on any rights

Strikes are an awesome example of effective protests that dont infringe on rights

Im sure there are others

g980 posted...

The reddit blackout is an interesting (albeit ultimately ineffective) example of a more creative protest that was visible but didnt infringe on any rights

Still made the classic mistake of inconveniencing people rather than rallying them. It's never going to be a good way to get people on your side.

Another big mistake made was that many subs just threw up the generic "this sub is private lol" message without even bothering to say why this was the case, so I'm sure many people were not even aware that a "blackout" was even happening.

Tenlaar posted...

A person can think both that a cause is important and that a particular method of protesting for that cause is bad.

The problem with this mindset is that effective protesting has to be an annoyance in some way. Being only okay with protesting if people do it where no one will see it and can easily ignore it accomplishes nothing.